FabSwingers.com forum: The single guy factor at clubs.

By *lackCherry OP Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Woah woah clam down, before I begin while there are a few "single guy" threads at the moment none cover what I'm going too.

I will also state that we have no problem meeting single guys from FAB and most of our meets have infact been single guys, now all of this is stated let me get down to it.

From going to clubs over the last year it appears as if there is a percentage of "single" guys who just cannot abide by the rules and behave in a respectful manner.

There is a club that operates a while line rule (where by you have to be INVITED over the white line if someone is playing), this rule is explained in detail and how to act yet a single guy was over this line basically wanking his cock into a couple (MFMF) who were playing, after it became apparent they didnt want anything to do with him he moved on to the next area doing the same.

What exactly are you getting out of this ? being barred from the club ? putting the couples off from having a play ? I just dont get why a section of the single guys who attend clubs just cannot act in a respectful normal manner.

Obviously its not everyone and people will argue MF couples and F's are just as bad but I have never seen the constant breaking of the rules that you see from single guys at almost every club event they are allowed in.

The odd thing for this, is this behavior seems to be consigned to club going men only (generally older men too) the men on FAB have all been fantastic meets but for whatever reason put them in a club environment and all shreds of decency and respect go out the window.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Woah woah clam down, before I begin while there are a few "single guy" threads at the moment none cover what I'm going too.

I will also state that we have no problem meeting single guys from FAB and most of our meets have infact been single guys, now all of this is stated let me get down to it.

From going to clubs over the last year it appears as if there is a percentage of "single" guys who just cannot abide by the rules and behave in a respectful manner.

The problem is that people will just bitch about it and not tell the management so they can't do anything about them, and if your in a club where the management aren't dealing with those people then you need to leave and go to a different place or put up with it!

Some people have no decorum and they tend to be attracted to places they can get away with it. so if you encounter a problem complain to management about it. its the only way to keep people like that out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

oh and also its not just single guys,, i have seen women and couples acting in negative ways too. infact the worst i saw was a single woman.. in peoples faces grabbing people telling them they were gonna fuck her... completely ruined the atmosphere for the night till the management kicked her out.

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By *lackCherry OP Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Yep we complained and the offender in question got barred.

But this guy had been going to this club for 5-6 years was a regular and knew the rules yet just decided that they just no longer apply to him and this sort of attitude this constant breaking or flaunting of the rules can been seen almost everywhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yep we complained and the offender in question got barred.

As i said,, some people have no decorum. its quite pathetic really.

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By *lackCherry OP Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"oh and also its not just single guys,, i have seen women and couples acting in negative ways too. infact the worst i saw was a single woman.. in peoples faces grabbing people telling them they were gonna fuck her... completely ruined the atmosphere for the night till the management kicked her out."

Agreed, I have seen a couple molesting a passed out girl at a club before however the reason I focused on single guys is while I have rarely seen couples and females stepping over the line it happens on an almost constant basis with single guys.

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By *lackCherry OP Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

As i said,, some people have no decorum. its quite pathetic really."

And the clubs tend to do all they can to control these guys and they STILL set out to break the rules. I just dont understand what they are achieving ? if no ones interested in you just watch and have fun and chalk it up for the next time but its almost this attitude that they have payed so they are getting their end away no matter what.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The single guy factor ?

Don't tell me Simon Cowell has got into the swinging club market too now !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From our experience and from chatting with single guys we have reached the following conclusions.

It seems there are a few single guys who deem it their right to watch and wank even when they are asked to leave . They have actually said that as the play is happening in an open room they are entitled to do so !

There are others who will follow couples around until the couple play , then just join in without being asked ! Again assuming it's their right as they paid to get in !

We would never dream of just joining in without being invited and would never just sit or stand wanking without knowing the players were happy with it .

After some thought we reckon it happens with the single guys because invariably there are often a disproportionate amount on any given night and they will bend the rules in order to get some justification for the expense of the night ?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

can I ask which club it is... because no offence if I went to a club, and the club explained why the "white line" was there..my reaction would be this..

I would walk in.... and walk out...

that says to me that tar most men with the same brush, and believe they cant be trusted

see... if an incident happened like that in a club that I go to, they would tell the management... one warning, and if it happened again they would be asked to leave, and not to come back.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As i said,, some people have no decorum. its quite pathetic really.

That's why we prefer a club that had a screening process and sets out the rules very clearly and enforces them as they are set out and doesn't let things slide!

The problem is for most clubs its alot of hard work keeping members in line and you can end up with people coming on forums like this and bitching about their treatment at a club when really it was their own fault for acting a fool in the place but people come on and read it and it can damage the reputation of a place and if a place is already not great they will tend to let things slide more. and thats the sad truth

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By *lackCherry OP Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Yep this probably is not to far away from the truth of it, but then we are in this situation where they are paying money to 100% get off.

Neither of us have any aspirations other than having a good night when we go to a club, I'm not sure why this percentage of single guys think that its justifiable because it cost them some money.

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By *lackCherry OP Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"can I ask which club it is... because no offence if I went to a club, and the club explained why the "white line" was there..my reaction would be this..

I would walk in.... and walk out...

that says to me that tar most men with the same brush, and believe they cant be trusted

see... if an incident happened like that in a club that I go to, they would tell the management... one warning, and if it happened again they would be asked to leave, and not to come back....."

The white line club doesn't matter, its a small venue who allow single guys at all their nights and the rule doesnt just apply to the guys its everyone, if someone is in a play area you need to be invited "past" the line by everyone playing. Its a quite sensible rule (imo).

And management were informed and this one guy is barred, but it was just one example of a multitude I have seen across the country and its nearly always perpetuated by a single guy whenever we have had bad experiences as clubs or seen out of order things happen.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"From our experience and from chatting with single guys we have reached the following conclusions.

There are others who will follow couples around until the couple play , then just join in without being asked ! Again assuming it's their right as they paid to get in !

We would never dream of just joining in without being invited and would never just sit or stand wanking without knowing the players were happy with it .

see this is where you and me are going to disagree a bit..... because in a way I think you are being a bit condescending...

re... the open room thing.... if people didn't want to be watch, would you be making the same complaint if it was couples watching as opposed to single guys.. (lots of new couples just watch on the first nights at clubs....)

and if they didn't want to be watched, then really they shouldn't be in an open room in the first place.... find a locked room and play in their instead....

some people like to be exhibitionists as much as some people like to be voyeurs at time, so as long as people are very quiet I don't see what the problem is with it at all.....

obviously if people are laughing giggling and heckling while watching that is a different matter.......

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By *lackCherry OP Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

That's why we prefer a club that had a screening process and sets out the rules very clearly and enforces them as they are set out and doesn't let things slide!

Most of the clubs we go to have had quite stringent screening processes and its often been long term "no problem before" members who seem to lose the plot one night (usually when its quiet) and go way way over board.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" it was just one example of a multitude I have seen across the country and its nearly always perpetuated by a single guy whenever we have had bad experiences as clubs or seen out of order things happen.

Have you thought about not going on single guys night if they are such trouble, there are plenty of clubs which have couples and single fem nights only

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By *lackCherry OP Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Yep we generally avoid them, but have ventured into clubs that allow a selected number even on couples nights. But the problem isnt us and the above incident didn't effect US in any way it was just something interesting I saw and seems to be endemic of the single guy at the club.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We meet single guys from here, never had a problem...but yes in clubs some people seem to think it is their god given right to do whatever, just because you are in the club!

We have had at a club, a woman touching me inappropriately without invitation, a couple jumping on to our bed, and suggesting inappropriate things without even a hello.

A single guy in the couples only locker room.

A woman feeling my OH up as we walked past her, don't know her, never spoken to her.

A single guy fully dressed in a no clothes only towels/underwear area.

But all in all, we still love the club, would recommend it to anyone.

The management and owners deal with any issues promptly.

In the main playroom, if you are not on the middle beds, on the beds scattered around the sides, no one will approach you, or should...but the couple I mentioned above did.

However we said no thanks, and moved on.

We tend to avoid the main playroom when single guys are allowed in, which tends to be a Friday night, as there are too many towel tuggers and people that we believe think it is just a free for all as you are in there.

I also think drink plays a factor with some incidences, as the more people drink, their inhibitions go and they can get a bit touchy feely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fabio - we have to beg to differ a little on this one .

A lockable room is generally too small for group fun and eliminates the inclusion of those folk who we may want to join us !

We have no problems with anyone asking if they may join in or watch and wank from a distance ( to be fair we don't mind that at all , but not right in our faces )

The issue is with guys who just assume that as it's an open room they can do as they please .

Unfortunately there are a few of this type and surely it isn't their right to intrude without permission ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh , and as an afterthought , we clearly said we would only watch if it was ok with those playing .

Newbies are generally very nervous and we are always more than happy to let them know it's ok for them to watch

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By *ayseanMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I agree some of the behaviour of some single guys at clubs leaves alot to be desired,and some think it perfectly ok to just jerk off beside you,no chat,just straight in and invading your space,and the management wont say anything to these guys as they want their money,although i must say the behaviour of couples+females can be terrible at times too,but its usually guys,which gives everybody the impression all single guys are the same,which we are not,there are plenty of respectful guys out there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it seems almost every club visit we have had,single men think standing 12 inches from niks face wanking is going to turn her on.ooh how she just cant resist from grabbing his cock.no chance,all the single men we have played with have talked first and been polite.all the serial wankers have got is a 'GO AWAY'

like the sound of line rule.you know then you are welcome if we get invited to join

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By *inktherapyCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

"From our experience and from chatting with single guys we have reached the following conclusions.

There are others who will follow couples around until the couple play , then just join in without being asked ! Again assuming it's their right as they paid to get in !

I have to say that if I'm playing in an open room then I cannot expect to stop someone else from watching (and wanking) - I can say to them that I don't like it and they may go away, or I can ask them to stand back if they're one of those 'in your face' wankers, but part of being in an open room is that it's open. If you're not happy with people watching then find a private room or don't play if there's none available. Open rooms are for all and I'd almost expect people to have a nose at what's happening in them

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By *onnoisseur100Man
over a year ago

Woking-ish

I have to agree we're not all the same, I get really annoyed when there is a nice couple /group playing and a group usually guys (op you're right) who gather to watch who get far too close to those playing. It spoils it for me and of course those playing.

It has of course happened to me as well, playing with a lovely couple at abfabs in an open room. Had lots watch, many get too close, warned them off, only find one of them try to join in! Only prevented by me moving to physically be

in his way!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pink - think you may have misunderstood us .

We have no problems at all with people watching , it's the wanking in your face or the assumption that anyone is free to do whatever they please in an open room .

If you ask someone to back off and they don't , it seems you accept that ?

Why should you have to ?

As said in a further post we dont see why we should have to find a lockable room or not play at all if pushy people insist on doing whatever they please in an open room !

We totally agree that having a nose is part of why we play in open rooms - and we hope folk that take our fancy may join in - but if they don't take our fancy there is NO WAY we should have to let them do whatever they like !!!!

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By *aturasqCouple
over a year ago

Hertfordshire

We went to Club Tease a few weeks ago for a special event where mostly couples attended and a few invited single guys.

Have to say the single guys were absolutely gentleman and behaved very respectfully. They only participated when asked to and of course they were all kept busy!

Unfortunately the bad minority spoil it for the good majority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"can I ask which club it is... because no offence if I went to a club, and the club explained why the "white line" was there..my reaction would be this..

I would walk in.... and walk out...

that says to me that tar most men with the same brush, and believe they cant be trusted

see... if an incident happened like that in a club that I go to, they would tell the management... one warning, and if it happened again they would be asked to leave, and not to come back....."

i agree. guys do get tared with the same brush.

i know how to behave around people and do not need a white line to tell me.

stinks of victimisation.

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By *lackCherry OP Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

As I said the white line is for EVERYONE.

If you are in a play area and anyone wants to join they have to ask and get permission from whoever is in the area to join.

This is the second time ive said it now :P

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As I said the white line is for EVERYONE.

If you are in a play area and anyone wants to join they have to ask and get permission from whoever is in the area to join.

This is the second time ive said it now :P"

...and you should only have to say it the once too

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham

"...we have no problem meeting single guys from FAB ...From going to clubs over the last year it appears as if there is a percentage of "single" guys who just cannot abide by the rules and behave in a respectful manner."

I wonder how much of this is because the guys want value for money? The guys who go to clubs may have forked out as much as £100 or more if it's their first time, they will have read all the stories about how great that club is, and how sex is almost assured. So for their money they might feel entitled to some "value".

I'm not condoning this line of thought, I hasten to add, but it would explain some of what has been decribed above.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

if in an open room and no rules have been broken, they can wank till their hearts content

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham

"As I said the white line is for EVERYONE."

Glad to hear it because one of the biggest rule breakers I ever encountered was a married woman, looking to fulfill her bi-side.

She was able to "get away" with stuff that single guys never would have, e.g. groping other females without even asking if they enjoyed fem-2-fem contact, using arms and elbows to barge past people to get at women in confined areas such as "dark rooms", etc.

But of course, you can't make complaints against women can you? Anyone who did got laughed at and she got carte blanche to carry on.

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By *enandlisaCouple
over a year ago

Burnley'ish

"if in an open room and no rules have been broken, they can wank till their hearts content"

Rarely seen a guy walk out of a club without a contented heart in 15 years of swinging!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do wish women and couples would stop spouting this pish about whats allowed in an open room and whos allowed to participate(at distance).If I enter an open room, and clearly within the rules of going not approaching without consent, it IS my right to use the clubs facilities- not to be questioned by those who think they can pick and choose who's in the OPEN room.

I wouldnt ever approach without an invite, or try to touch etc etc...

however, when I've had partners I've had the automatic 'feelup/kiss/fondle/grope' of my partner..with little conversation from ..u guessed it...COUPLES!!!

couples that neither me or my partner were actually interested in...so in fact I'd have to say something like no thanks, she/I/we arent interested.

back to us men though, if I meet a girl in a club, and we sit on a bed with a few cpls and we start playing...she goes off for a fag or a drink...am I automatically -1 fanny????

I expect respect in a club just like anyone else and I give it, but some of the comments above easily rile me..just plain ignorance thats all.

Sort urselves out and play where u feel comfortable without 'undesireable eyes', and stop moaning.

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By *lubPartyPeepsCouple
over a year ago

London

"I do wish women and couples would stop spouting this pish about whats allowed in an open room and whos allowed to participate(at distance).If I enter an open room, and clearly within the rules of going not approaching without consent, it IS my right to use the clubs facilities- not to be questioned by those who think they can pick and choose who's in the OPEN room.

I wouldnt ever approach without an invite, or try to touch etc etc...

however, when I've had partners I've had the automatic 'feelup/kiss/fondle/grope' of my partner..with little conversation from ..u guessed it...COUPLES!!!

couples that neither me or my partner were actually interested in...so in fact I'd have to say something like no thanks, she/I/we arent interested.

back to us men though, if I meet a girl in a club, and we sit on a bed with a few cpls and we start playing...she goes off for a fag or a drink...am I automatically -1 fanny????

I expect respect in a club just like anyone else and I give it, but some of the comments above easily rile me..just plain ignorance thats all.

Sort urselves out and play where u feel comfortable without 'undesireable eyes', and stop moaning.

Iroinically, we had the same problem, in we think, the same club. We were playing with another couple and there was also a single guy, whom we had convered with in the bar nearby in the room, he didn't so much as lay a finger anywhere near me (mrs party) without asking very respectfully first. A second guy who we hadn't even spoken to, then got on the bed while I was occupied and tried to come at me from behind, despite having already been told by my partner, no thank you (exact words, couldnt be put more politely). He was told again three times, and still tried it on, so we all stopped playing and left, and then he got upset when we asked him to move so we could find our clothes which he was standing on.

A good example of the guy who behaved nicely and took time to chat to us in the bar getting alot further than said idiot who did the reverse and also ignored the rules, constantly crossing onto the bed uninvited.

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By *am789Man
over a year ago

Preston

Please do single guys and other couples a favour. Don’t whinge about single guys on here--- go and tell the club owner.

Also if you’re the hottest girl in the club you are likely to draw attention.

Be safe in the knowledge one day you won’t be and will not have any and wish you did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldnt ever approach without an invite, or try to touch etc etc...

however, when I've had partners I've had the automatic 'feelup/kiss/fondle/grope' of my partner..with little conversation from ..u guessed it...COUPLES!!!

couples that neither me or my partner were actually interested in...so in fact I'd have to say something like no thanks, she/I/we arent interested.

back to us men though, if I meet a girl in a club, and we sit on a bed with a few cpls and we start playing...she goes off for a fag or a drink...am I automatically -1 fanny????

I expect respect in a club just like anyone else and I give it, but some of the comments above easily rile me..just plain ignorance thats all.

Sort urselves out and play where u feel comfortable without 'undesireable eyes', and stop moaning.

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Well this is an odd _iew !

You say some of the comments rile you and it's just plain ignorance ?

When did an open room in a club become a place where you literally put yourself in a position of being a piece of meat for all and sundry to do as that please with ?

Is it ignorant to expect folk to ask before mauling you ?

Perhaps this is why so many couples don't visit clubs and ultimately it becomes a great loss for us all ?

The suggestion that if you don't like it find a lockable room or somewhere else is ignorant and what riles us more than anything else . Why ? Because we are very happy to play with single guys, girls and couples who WE choose to play with, and more often than not the more the merrier - and the suggestion that if we are not willing to let anyone who wants to join in with us in an open room is wrong of us then WTF ?

Jeez - we should move to somewhere else because someone we don't fancy wants a piece of us ?

What a strange world some people live in !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As i said,, some people have no decorum. its quite pathetic really.

I agree they actualy think that because they have paid to get in they think they can do what they like I was in a swingers hotel when a guy got rough and bit me in a delicate area he was friends with the management but they still barred him x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Please do single guys and other couples a favour. Don’t whinge about single guys on here--- go and tell the club owner.

Also if you’re the hottest girl in the club you are likely to draw attention.

Be safe in the knowledge one day you won’t be and will not have any and wish you did.

Nik always gets a lot of attention.using manners still apply,she shouldn't expect to be touched because of that.

We like single men nights but the few ignorant twats ruin it for the decent ones.we have been alone on a bed playing and men have sat in touchinging distance and start wanking and try to get a medical _iew.I ask them if I can help them or turn so they can't see anything.as soon as one left another would try.one reached to grab her bum,just be he made contact I told him what to do and where to go in a nasty way as by now I'd had enough.it was obvious we are a couple just having time alone.the Personal space rule needs drilling into them as it obviously isn't been at the moment.the fact we were in the open room as no private rooms were available is irrelevent.

It seems a lot of couples are concerned about this so why does it keep happening.I'm sure the culprits use this site and read the forum an peoples _iew on it.gauging peoples reaction to it in clubs also must show its not accepted.

You can't keep going off to the management like in sure some will say.you would never be sat down.

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By *lackCherry OP Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Please do single guys and other couples a favour. Don’t whinge about single guys on here--- go and tell the club owner.

Also if you’re the hottest girl in the club you are likely to draw attention.

Be safe in the knowledge one day you won’t be and will not have any and wish you did.

If you bothered reading the thread instead of just the title then you would have seen that the owners were informed and the guy has since been barred.

The thread is one to question the motives and reasoning for it rather than anything else, not a whinge and if you again bothered to read the thread you would see that most are in agreement.

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By *lackCherry OP Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

I'm not condoning this line of thought, I hasten to add, but it would explain some of what has been decribed above."

I agree that it seems to be part of the problem and education and strict attitudes are needed around the issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Woah woah clam down, before I begin while there are a few "single guy" threads at the moment none cover what I'm going too.

I will also state that we have no problem meeting single guys from FAB and most of our meets have infact been single guys, now all of this is stated let me get down to it.

From going to clubs over the last year it appears as if there is a percentage of "single" guys who just cannot abide by the rules and behave in a respectful manner.

We know where your coming from but for xxxxx sake it sounds like you had an issue with one guy, get a grip tell the managment or just get a hotel room.

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By *lackCherry OP Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

oh I see its special person day. It was one example of many if you notice we have been going to clubs up and down the country for a year and its a persistent and constant thing we have noticed, backed up by many (including single guys) in this very thread.

Instead of having a good old whinge at us why not try to read the thread and respond to it instead of poorly attacking us for something you just made up ?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

The price they pay is a factor to some. Others may not play within the rules but that is not exclusive to single guys, I was involved with a club for 2 years and the biggest culprits were d*unken bi females ( both single and married ) pawing other women.

But that being said, if I was in a club and in an open room watching others play.... I would wank myself silly if I wanted to and if any couple voiced an opinion on that.... I would report them and expect the management to remind them of the rules of the club.

Any uninvited advance is wrong..... regardless of genitalia of offender

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldnt ever approach without an invite, or try to touch etc etc...

however, when I've had partners I've had the automatic 'feelup/kiss/fondle/grope' of my partner..with little conversation from ..u guessed it...COUPLES!!!

couples that neither me or my partner were actually interested in...so in fact I'd have to say something like no thanks, she/I/we arent interested.

back to us men though, if I meet a girl in a club, and we sit on a bed with a few cpls and we start playing...she goes off for a fag or a drink...am I automatically -1 fanny????

I expect respect in a club just like anyone else and I give it, but some of the comments above easily rile me..just plain ignorance thats all.

Sort urselves out and play where u feel comfortable without 'undesireable eyes', and stop moaning.

Well this is an odd _iew !

You say some of the comments rile you and it's just plain ignorance ?

When did an open room in a club become a place where you literally put yourself in a position of being a piece of meat for all and sundry to do as that please with ?

Is it ignorant to expect folk to ask before mauling you ?

Perhaps this is why so many couples don't visit clubs and ultimately it becomes a great loss for us all ?

Jeez - we should move to somewhere else because someone we don't fancy wants a piece of us ?

What a strange world some people live in !

ok U have taken my post out of the context of what is permitted by most clubs open rule policy.

I never suggested anyone has the right to play with someone, or get too close for comfort.

What I have said is nobody has the right to tell people to stop watching, masturbating while adhering to the rules outlined above.

I never expect any play in a club, I normally know how to approach people...however I wouldnt be dictated to on what I've paid for.Which is the use of the club, nothing about the 'use' of anyone that is there.

An open room as others have pointed out is for everyone to enjoy, and not for those in the central area to decide who is in the room, or what they are doing.

I have no problems about the personal space issue at all, as I said in my last post.

I play by the clubs I attends rules, even in the gangbang/greedygirl environment..I accept not everyyone wishes to play with me....what I will not do is be told that I cant watch or masturbate within the clubs rules...because someone thinks I shouldnt.

Dont assume I only talk as a single guy, Ive had fulltime partners and taken a few girls to clubs/parties, however I know what to expect at the best of times..particularly when we have played in an OPEN room.

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over a year ago

London

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over a year ago

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"Please do single guys and other couples a favour. Don’t whinge about single guys on here--- go and tell the club owner.

Also if you’re the hottest girl in the club you are likely to draw attention.

Be safe in the knowledge one day you won’t be and will not have any and wish you did.

We did complain to the owners and the person in question was given a warning, not his first as it turned out.

The rules in a club are for a reason and everyones benifit (regardless of sex, age, couple or single) being hot or not is besides the point. You state that like it means its okay for someone to then try and fuck me without a condom or my consent just because I am in a club, which is what the person did in question tried to do.

Such an attitude is half the problem, and the number of people put off from going to clubs for exactly the same kind of behaviour, or the one mentioned by the OP, is very high we can assure you.

Such people, and this includes couples who also behave in a similar way or who choose to have domestics in venues (Another topic altogether) don't do the scene (Or themselves) any favours.

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