FabSwingers.com forum: Men been ripped off

By *igjohn78 OP Man
over a year ago

lincoln

As men we seem to get ripped off at a lot of clubs (not all of them) with over pricing/membership and we just take it.there are lots of great clubs i would love to visit put not willing to pay £60/£70 for membership and entry fee for just 1 visit. At a time were clubs fingers crossed may reopen one day and want us back. Let's bring equal rights to all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No one is forcing you to pay

Just don't go

That'll teach them.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

It's their right to put the price but it is your right to choose whether to pay or not.

If there is demand, why should they stop.

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham

Interesting comparing this thread with the others that are looking to financially support clubs through their times of difficulty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I understood that gender price disparity was illegal? So the concept of free entry for women but £15 for men wasn’t legal. In an age of equality it should be... although I understand why clubs would price differently.

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By *igjohn78 OP Man
over a year ago

lincoln

You wouldn't get a way with it in any other sector

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By *elnkazCouple
over a year ago

cheshire

If you dont like it.....dont go

Simples .k

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By *igjohn78 OP Man
over a year ago

lincoln

So it is down to us men to keep the clubs open. This year i have been to 4 clubs and have given my support

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because it would just be a massive sausage fest and you’d get no women or couples in there - it’s not hard to understand

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By *iberty RedWoman
over a year ago

Cheltenham

Would you rather same price for everyone but limited single men entrance?

Think it would be the only reasonable way otherwise the club would be full of single men so not many single women would feel comfortable going.

Also think the club would have to take payment when you booked incase of no shows.

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By *horty4Man
over a year ago

london

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is no shortage of guys who pay the price to get into clubs.

The clubs are private member clubs, and they can charge what they want, so for anyone who doesn't agree with the pricing then they have the choice of not going.

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By *horty4Man
over a year ago

london

Congratulations, then first whinging post about guys being charged more of 2021. Take the rest of the year off, your work here is done

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By *igjohn78 OP Man
over a year ago

lincoln

I think you have it just right

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By *en_Dover79Man
over a year ago

Oswaldtwistle

where I go it is £30 to get in.. I go most weekends I don't mind paying that as it is well run and there is a good mix of people. Couples and single females always there too.. as the guy above said it would be full of men otherwise and no good to me and other straight guys.. want quality you pay

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By *wosmilersCouple
over a year ago

Heathrowish

The pricing reflects the demand. If the price for singles were to be equaliaed, the places would be overrun by guys and the ladies would stay away.

Nobody is forcing you to go in the same way as nobody forces you to pay a fortune to go to see a Premiership game as opposed to watching a local lower league side, or you buy a new expensive fast car instead of a cheap runaround. It is your choice.

It is just a matter of either you pay and go, or you sit at home and _oan.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"Because it would just be a massive sausage fest and you’d get no women or couples in there - it’s not hard to understand "

You’d could also argue that for those clubs that have extra security it’s not usually needed because of the women & couples so why should they pay towards it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If a club was full of some of the types of single guys on here, then couples and single women would probably not bother with going there.

When we see guys on here with a profile full of cock photos, we wonder what they would be like in a club full of single women and couples.

Just our opinion of course!

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

VA in Bedford isnt that far from you and doesn’t charge more for single guys I think.

Or you could set up your own parties or club and charge everyone the same.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

The busiest times at Chams when we've been has always been couples night which would suggest that single men don't keep the club open.

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By *amantha TSWoman
over a year ago

Swindon

Apart from using this method to keep a balance between single guys, couples and ladies, you seem annoyed that membership fees are so high for 1 visit? This is true for any members only activity and isn't that unusual. I'm fairly sure you could say the same for playing a single round of golf at St Andrews?

Believe it or not a lot of clubs make more money from couples than they do single guys, mainly because of the volume through the door. The higher prices are more there to discourage the guys who aren't truly into the lifestyle, and I'm sure if you looked at the membership as an investment over a year rather than a one time event it wouldn't be too bad?

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

it is a clubs prerogative to charge whatever they want the same as any other business.

If you don't want to pay, it is very simple, don't attend.

You are not obliged to go to any lifestyle or other venue if you don't want to.

It is your money, spend it where you choose.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

It’s a double edged sword though as the more you charge the guts the higher the proportion will be that feel entitled to get some action.

The single women & couples know they are the click bait before they go & also know that’s why their entrance fee is lower or nothing at all.

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By *igjohn78 OP Man
over a year ago

lincoln

I 4 years of going to clubs i have not yet seen any trouble from any one yet due to most of us been disant people

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"I 4 years of going to clubs i have not yet seen any trouble from any one yet due to most of us been disant people"

We’ve only seen two ejected, one pissed & the other wouldn’t take no for an answer & was shadowing someone.

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

"I understood that gender price disparity was illegal? So the concept of free entry for women but £15 for men wasn’t legal. In an age of equality it should be... although I understand why clubs would price differently."

To use the legal wording, if a potentially discriminatory provision, criterion or practice can be shown to be a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim, then it will probably not be deemed discriminatory.

In this situation, the “legitimate aim” is preventing clubs from being completely filled with single men, and no couples or single women. Whether the price difference is a “proportionate means” or not, you’d have to test in the Courts. I suspect in your example, £15 for men and free for women (you don’t say what couples pay but I’m guessing £15), it would be considered that it’s not such a huge difference as to be completely unfair.

But how long would a club be able to operate if women and couples stopped going, and only men ever went? Most of the men would stop going if they knew they were never going to get any action with a woman, and then where would the club be? As a man, would you want to go to a club that never had any women there?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve been clubbing for over 15 years and have never felt ripped off because I pay marginally more (and in more clubs we pay no more than £10 extra)

I would advise the poster to avoid clubs in Europe, where entry fees are significantly higher

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So you think as a male you're being ripped off by the prices you quote in your post (I've seen comments where some clubs charge even more than this by the way), So you've turned up at the clubs that charge this amount without any research and been charged this price and you've got no choice but to pay it?

No, you know the price before attending and make a conscious effort to go and pay the cost required. Therefore you haven't been ripped off, you've decided you're prepared to pay this price but you think it's too much/unfair. If you think this then don't go to the clubs that charge this, instead head to the clubs that charge less or even offer free membership which will cut your costs down. Next option if you want to go to those specific clubs but don't want to pay that much, look out for events that they might be holding where you can attend on a guest list for just entry fee, plenty of clubs do this a certain number of times a year.

I've never been to a club and felt like I've been ripped off and I've been to a hell of a lot of clubs over the last 20 years. Do your research, choose a club that you think offers great value. Other people will feel that price is great value to them and will be happy to pay it.

As for the legalities of the pricing structure well that's been done to death here on the forums. Adult venues/swingers clubs IF a private members club are not breaking the law by charging different prices by gender so once again, it's not illegal so if you don't like the price, go elsewhere.

On the other hand, there are plenty of clubs that are not private members clubs, as in you don't have to me a member to attend and you just pay your entrance fee, these clubs when charging gender based fee's are in fact breaking the law. So feel free to take them to court and get them stopped from doing so, or once again, don't attend these clubs.

Nobody is ripping anyone off, YOU make the choice to attend or not, if you don't like the price, don't attend. There will be 10 other people that do think it's a worthwhile price for every 1 that doesn't.

Research clubs before attending, not only on price but also on what the event is that you'll be attending and make a decision based on that. Plenty of clubs do free entry, no membership entry, reduced entry. If you can't be bothered to do your research, then be prepared to pay over the odds.

When clubs reopen I'll be visiting the clubs that I always have and also new clubs to me but based on spending time finding out which provide good value for me.

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By *omerset tvTV/TS
over a year ago

Weston-super-Mare

What price should tvs pay should it be free if dressed like a woman or should it be same price as a guy another thread to the argument lol

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By *igjohn78 OP Man
over a year ago

lincoln

So wourd couples and women pay the mens prise and £30 a year for membership? I bet not

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By *igjohn78 OP Man
over a year ago

lincoln

A very good pion. We are all going for the same thing so we should all pay the same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So wourd couples and women pay the mens prise and £30 a year for membership? I bet not "

If they really wanted to attend,of course they will.

Same as the single guy,he will only pay the price if he really wants to gain entry.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"A very good pion. We are all going for the same thing so we should all pay the same "

These threads have been done to the death

Clubs will and are allowed to charge as they see fit

We have both played as a couple and as singles

She always pays less than I do but it's my choice to attend

If clubs lowered single guy prices they would be over run many couples would not attend to be hounded by them

Who wants to attend a club that's full of single guys unless that's your scene and if so there are clubs for that

Many couples end up paying more in the long run anyways normally they will get a hotel room so both can drink thus spending more at the bars

Most single guys don't drink so not to impair there proformance

Plus many clubs would have to limit single guys entrance so then people may travel to be turned away at the door

The answer is simple if you don't wish to pay don't go keep trying your luck elsewhere

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By *xxLandNxxxCouple
over a year ago

Nuneaton

"So wourd couples and women pay the mens prise and £30 a year for membership? I bet not "

Yes we would pay a lot more if it meant we had good facilities and a decent proportion of couples and single females, but on the other hand if it was full of men that wouldn’t be for us so would stick to couples only nights

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By *igjohn78 OP Man
over a year ago

lincoln

Do private companies have the perogative to underpay women and it is up to women to chose to work there or not?

Of course not, it is sexist and illegal in one domain yet par for the course in another.

Pricing should be equal with a cap on the number of admissions. Problem solved fairly.

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By *xxLandNxxxCouple
over a year ago

Nuneaton

How do theme parks get away with charging against age ?

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

Ye gods! Not this again.

OK so let's give in to the equal prices for single guys lobby and go for it.

Let's see how it goes..

There would be a huge increase in the numbers of single guys in clubs. To be fair some couples and single girls would be happy with that but a vast majority wouldn't. So you will in all probability finish up with 30/40 guys chasing 2 or 3 couples around the club all night. After a few weeks of that even the most single guy friendly couples would probably pack it in altogether. Including us who actually like a decent number of single guys in clubs.

Limit the numbers you may say. HOW?

Pre-registration/guest lists?

So a club limits guys to say 10 on a particular night and they all put their names on the guest list then (knowing the reliability record of guys on here) only 5 turn up. How long does anyone think a club would/could stand for that?

Limit it on the door? Oh yes, that one has been mentioned before as well.

So guys, imagine driving from Blackpool to Manchester (as I often did in my single guy days) then get to the door and be told "sorry no more single guys tonight" Maybe you would like to queue outside until one leaves. Or would you like to pay an extra 20 quid and walk straight in, as it is now.

I actually think that if this did come to pass, in a very short time a lot of clubs would close and the few still around would revert to couples only.

There you go guys. No single guys in clubs AT ALL.

Couple of other points.

Firstly it isn't illegal. The barrack room lawyers on here will know the detail better than me, but as clubs they have the right to balance their attendance and are fully entitled to do it through pricing. In over 30 years I've never heard of anyone testing it in court. I wonder why?

Lastly the same applies all over Europe. German, French, Spanish, Dutch, and I'm pretty sure all of the others work the same system. Why?

Because it works.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Do private companies have the perogative to underpay women and it is up to women to chose to work there or not?

Of course not, it is sexist and illegal in one domain yet par for the course in another.

Pricing should be equal with a cap on the number of admissions. Problem solved fairly."

One problem solved and a much bigger one created.

Se above.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

Not all solo guys “just take it”. I looked at visiting three clubs, and decided not to, because of their particular pricing structure for solo guys. Because I looked beforehand, and took the decision not to go, I didn’t feel ripped off either

If there are clubs you “would love to visit”, the cost wouldn’t matter

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"Do private companies have the perogative to underpay women and it is up to women to chose to work there or not?

Of course not, it is sexist and illegal in one domain yet par for the course in another.

Pricing should be equal with a cap on the number of admissions. Problem solved fairly."

It's a private members club you pay for the use of

We go to a club for the social side as much as the other

We are interested in the lifestyle so we are willing to pay for a night out as a couple or as singles

When we attend as a couple we are looking for like minded couples not singles

We wouldn't attend a club full of single guys as many couples wouldn't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don’t like it

Don’t go simple really

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Nothing in life is free

Moaning about prices won't help there is no equality in life so why should there be in clubs

Do you think NHS staff should earn less than an mp or a dustman earn less than store manager

All have equal responsibilities and without one or the other the country would be a lot worse off yet there wages are so different

Nothing is equal

Pay what's asked or stay home

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

So would you rather pay less and have less women? I can't wait for my first visit but want there to be a good mix.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

"As men we seem to get ripped off at a lot of clubs (not all of them) with over pricing/membership and we just take it.there are lots of great clubs i would love to visit put not willing to pay £60/£70 for membership and entry fee for just 1 visit. At a time were clubs fingers crossed may reopen one day and want us back. Let's bring equal rights to all "
. Living in London we have two members only clubs Le Boudoir and OP4F I applied for membership to both and I was successful with OP4F 3 years ago I believe I paid £50 membership. I mostly go on a Friday night as that is the end of my working week I pay £50 entrance fee I have no problem paying this and I have occasionally paid £70 to go on a Saturday night where they only allow 5 single select guys.From a personal point of view I have no problem paying what I pay as I know some of the couples I have met travel a lot further than me to attend and maybe stay at a hotel so it wouldn’t surprise me if they end paying as much as me if not more.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Do private companies have the perogative to underpay women and it is up to women to chose to work there or not?

Of course not, it is sexist and illegal in one domain yet par for the course in another.

Pricing should be equal with a cap on the number of admissions. Problem solved fairly."

You are wrong. It's been explained eloquently above.

Read up. ^

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do private companies have the perogative to underpay women and it is up to women to chose to work there or not?

Of course not, it is sexist and illegal in one domain yet par for the course in another.

Pricing should be equal with a cap on the number of admissions. Problem solved fairly."

No they shouldn't be priced equal.

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By *portyndNaughtyMan
over a year ago

Nearby Hinckley

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

OP, take Martyn Lewis’s advice, and ask yourself;

Do I need it?

And;

Can I afford it?

Works for me! All the best!

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By *portyndNaughtyMan
over a year ago

Nearby Hinckley

I have been visiting clubs for few years and rarely few ripped off.

A vanilla night out or date surely will cost a minimum £50 if you are a gentleman and do not allow the lady to pay.

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By *igjohn78 OP Man
over a year ago

lincoln

We have woman's right gay right but no men's rights how is that right. If men stopped going and paying how long would a club stay open

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"We have woman's right gay right but no men's rights how is that right. If men stopped going and paying how long would a club stay open "

You're not reading or understanding a single word anyone's said on this thread have you.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"We have woman's right gay right but no men's rights how is that right. If men stopped going and paying how long would a club stay open "

They wouldn't close just cause single guys didn't attend

Many couples go for couples or to enjoy the lifestyle

They spend more behind the bar

More single women looking for couples would attend

We have been to clubs on both single guy nights and couples only nights

Single guy nights Inc prob about 20 single guys to about 5 couples where as couples only nights there's prob about 40 couples

Do the maths couples pay maybe 15 pound less entry but spend double behind the bar so if you think boycotting clubs will cause them to lose money ur in dreamland

As everyone has said if you don't like the prices don't attend I'm sure you will find something elsewhere

I'd like to drive a porsche sadly I'm not payed enough that's unfair

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"We have woman's right gay right but no men's rights how is that right. If men stopped going and paying how long would a club stay open "

You have your right

Your right to attend or not

Simples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have woman's right gay right but no men's rights how is that right. If men stopped going and paying how long would a club stay open "

The clubs would stay open for ever.

Most couples spend far more money in the clubs that men do.

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Do private companies have the perogative to underpay women and it is up to women to chose to work there or not?

Of course not, it is sexist and illegal in one domain yet par for the course in another.

Pricing should be equal with a cap on the number of admissions. Problem solved fairly."

Go back and read my comment, then go and read the Equality Act 2010 which it is based on, then go and bring a test case if it’s so important to you - but that will cost you a lot more than the clubs do.

Also, remember that when it was deemed to be unfair to charge young men more than young women for car insurance, it didn’t reduce the price paid by men, it increased the price paid by women. You won’t get cheap or free entry, it’ll just mean women and couples paying more.

Your argument about equal pay is a false equivalence and you know it.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Should couples and single females pay as much as single men for the opportunity to be followed around a club by single guys who can't be arsed to even speak to them hoping they may get a chance of seeing some female flesh

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

And for everyone lurking and reading who wants to jump in my inbox with their MRA views, don’t. If you have anything to say, the button you want is “reply +quote”, not “reply privately”.

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By *assage_noirMan
over a year ago

1The Angel

That point to control the number of single men in a club is rubbish. You don't have to up the price to control the number of men there.

The person at the door can control the numbers, simples.

As for the point of clubs can charge what they want, its your decision to attend is correct.

But we know most club charge the crazy high amount because they know they can get away with it and because of men hunger and the need to wanting to be involved will play it.

So should planes, trains charge double the amount for the larger person wanting to travel, its their plane, their trains. Where would it stop. Should clubs being that they are a private club stop me from entering because I am black?

All the gent who started the thread was just asking. And I've paid £100 club entrance no one forced me to do it and would again but do I think it was fair, more than likely not but I had the choice.

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Should couples and single females pay as much as single men for the opportunity to be followed around a club by single guys who can't be arsed to even speak to them hoping they may get a chance of seeing some female flesh "

Honestly if there were no or very few single men in attendance, I’d be much more likely to go to a club. Everything I’ve read makes me feel like it would be far too intimidating or even unsafe for me to go alone, so it’s just not something I’m prepared to do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Supply and demand , like others have clearly said , if men paid the same amount as ladies, it would be full of just men , I could argue that public transport ain’t fair , OAPs get free rides under 16 get discounted fares yet we get to use the same seats , it’s choice if you don’t like it , you don’t have to go

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

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"We have woman's right gay right but no men's rights how is that right. If men stopped going and paying how long would a club stay open "

There are some venues on the continent that are couples only, and they seem to manage ok, so I think they would stay open as long as they wanted to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah one reason why I'll never go and certainly want get any support from me but as said it's there club there rules.as for how they get away with it I think it's something to do with being a private club.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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We think it’s unfair that clubs charge single men more than everyone else...so we make sure some men get something out of it

Hopefully things will be more equal when clubs re open. We would happily pay more as a couple. Single women should be charged an entrance fee.

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By *rufflesCouple
over a year ago

manchester

Nooo you are soooo wrong. Private club = their own choice of charges...however, if a club was to vary prices due to nationality, then am sure that would be a different matter!!!????

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Clubs we attend charge roughly 25 for single males 15 for a couple we personally don't think this is a bad price

Couples only pay a one off membership Where's single guys pay 30 quid annually which personally I'd pay if the club was worth attending

Most clubs offer discount nights to its single guys and some offer vip discounts

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By *akedduo66Couple
over a year ago

Near Bordon

A club we used to attend originally kept the guys downstairs until one was invited to join in upstairs.

The guys were lovely and we, and others, had a great time.

After time the rules changed and the guys became a problem, sometimes leaning on the doors and sighing or even trying to join in without being invited.

It appears that these new guys were of the opinion that they had paid premium rates thus they were entitled a piece of the action.

It's a difficult one, more a question of balance or couples and females will be outnumbered, intimidated and not re-attend.

We didn't.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

End of the day it's everyone's choice to pay the price and attend or not

We would happily pay more in couples only nights

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"Would you rather same price for everyone but limited single men entrance?

Think it would be the only reasonable way otherwise the club would be full of single men so not many single women would feel comfortable going.

Also think the club would have to take payment when you booked incase of no shows. "

I agree with this idea. Seems a lot fairer, but then they would _oan about numbers being limited.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So wourd couples and women pay the mens prise and £30 a year for membership? I bet not "

It’s quiet simple; if you feel like you are ripped off off then don’t go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree most single guys who have been going to clubs for a while know how to behave. That said I (Fire) have had come close to physical confrontation with single guys who haven’t taken no for an answer and kept groping Smoke whilst she was playing.

I’ve experienced clubs as a single guy and now as a couple. As a single I always had the attitude that if I didn’t want to pay the price I didn’t have to go. Do people complain about being ripped off when they go to Xmas parties and are served a plate of pressed Turkey with veg and are charged north of £35-40. For the privilege ? Or news years eve at vanilla establishments in the nighttime economy and are charged £50 just to get in the door before drinks ? Two more examples where people can exercise choice - do or don’t do, go or don’t go.

The most successful nightclub in history, studio 54, used to have crowds outside every night clamouring to get in, and the owner would abuse them when turning them away. Yet still they came, trying again and again - nobody forced them.

With entry requirements comes an ability to try to “ out” elements who at the very least spoil the atmosphere, or at most causing trouble. In my experience working in the nighttime economy any trouble is normally caused by a male or males who have testosterone overload and if they don’t “pull” the only way for them to discharge that is have a fight. Now imagine an overload of single men in a swing club , where the testosterone overload is exacerbated by ladies in lingerie/naked and sex taking place. Would you prefer to have security wandering around all night.... most people would be put off by their presence, or even feel intimidated.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

I can't stop saying "I Don't Believe It" in a Victor Meldrew voice now.

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

"Would you rather same price for everyone but limited single men entrance?

Think it would be the only reasonable way otherwise the club would be full of single men so not many single women would feel comfortable going.

Also think the club would have to take payment when you booked incase of no shows. "

They already limit single men and still overcharge but think you for seeing it from.the mens point of view

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By *ugardadcleanerMan
over a year ago

cirencester

Paying entrance fee once a member always acceptable even if you only get to watch stuff. It does not give a right. That always the ladies choice even in sex clubs where girls are offered by club.

Respect though sometimes ruled by cock!

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"And for everyone lurking and reading who wants to jump in my inbox with their MRA views, don’t. If you have anything to say, the button you want is “reply +quote”, not “reply privately”."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perhaps you remember the issues female presenters at the BBC were being paid considerably less than their male counterparts ?

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"We have woman's right gay right but no men's rights how is that right. If men stopped going and paying how long would a club stay open "

Maybe one or two that rely on single guys would close. The rest (vast majority) would hardly miss single guys at all. They would just revert to couples only.

Yep great result for the boycott.

No sigle guys in clubs at all.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

"You wouldn't get a way with it in any other sector"

Have you seen how much more money women pay than men for a hair cut ?

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By *igjohn78 OP Man
over a year ago

lincoln

"Perhaps you remember the issues female presenters at the BBC were being paid considerably less than their male counterparts ?

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but the pint is thay should be equal

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

"We have woman's right gay right but no men's rights how is that right. If men stopped going and paying how long would a club stay open "

Actions speak louder than words,

You need to act now and in 100 plus years people will be mentioning you in the same context as Emmeline Pankhurst.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Would you rather same price for everyone but limited single men entrance?

Think it would be the only reasonable way otherwise the club would be full of single men so not many single women would feel comfortable going.

Also think the club would have to take payment when you booked incase of no shows.

I agree with this idea. Seems a lot fairer, but then they would _oan about numbers being limited. "

Yes that would probably be the next _oan.

Or you could even take it a stage further.

What if clubs operating a guest list decided that they only wanted the best looking guys on the night. Anyone not up to their standard would be refused out of hand.

Maybe that would be good for the couples and girls but it would be the end for "Mr average" in swinger clubs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP if you feel your being ripped off by private members clubs its simple dont go no one is forcing you. Because they are private members establishments prices can be set by the owners/managers they dont have to abide by the gender equality laws. Same as some golf clubs and the few remaining male only clubs..left from the victorian era. If swingers clubs charged the same for couples and single females probably the number attending would decrease so would you be interested in attending a club with very limited numbers of females or couples and lots of single males. We go because we enjoy it as it is a nice balance. Changing that balance would force us to reconsider and probably visit less if at all..

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Let's be honest the single guys out number couples by about 100 to one and out number single fems by around 500 to one

So for every single guy that refuses to pay a clubs price there will be 50 more waiting on a list to gain entry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree. They are aware randy guys want nsa sex and make the most of demand and supply. Hats off to The Attic club who don't have a membership free and not too high a premium on entry for single guys. But also remember you wouldnt want to go to a club where entry was so cheap that there were way to many single guys there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have woman's right gay right but no men's rights how is that right. If men stopped going and paying how long would a club stay open "

You are aware that the “Rights” you mentions are around the battle that many groups have to be treated the same as white males (the group you belong to)

I’m guessing you read Daily Fail or Faily Express

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

If the Men didn’t pay it then I suspect the prices may be adjusted accordingly.

However since we have dicks and clubs are great there will be no shortage of clients.

Probably why I go as a couple.

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

"Because it would just be a massive sausage fest and you’d get no women or couples in there - it’s not hard to understand "

Controlling the number of men in a club has nothing to do with how much they are charged. If a club only allowed access to males that have pre-booked then numbers could be managed. Pubs and restaurants are managing numbers nation wide so this shouldn't be a challenge for clubs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You wouldn't get a way with it in any other sector"

Nobody is 'getting away' with anything.

As a members only club, swingers clubs are allowed to charge what they like.

There are very good reasons for charging men more than women or couples.

As others have said, if you don't like it, don't go.

Tbh, you sound very entitled.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have woman's right gay right but no men's rights how is that right. If men stopped going and paying how long would a club stay open

Maybe one or two that rely on single guys would close. The rest (vast majority) would hardly miss single guys at all. They would just revert to couples only.

Yep great result for the boycott.

No sigle guys in clubs at all.

Very very true.

And the numbers of couples and single women that would start going simply because single guys can't would easily make up any loss in income the club would have.

Maybe if more single guys make a stand we could have exclusive couples clubs, and clubs solely for single men with a cheap entrance price for them??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No one is forcing you to pay

Just don't go

That'll teach them."

Yes, I’ve always kept away from all the clubs - that must have made such a difference to their profits

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You wouldn't get a way with it in any other sector

Nobody is 'getting away' with anything.

As a members only club, swingers clubs are allowed to charge what they like.

There are very good reasons for charging men more than women or couples.

As others have said, if you don't like it, don't go.

Tbh, you sound very entitled."

Sadly a lot of single guy think they are entitled.

Hence we have the problems we have.

It's such a shame for the decent guys out there.

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By *eordiesCouple
over a year ago

newcastle

There is a very, very, very easy way to get the pricing structure for single men / couples / TVs etc.

Start your own club. Price entrances as you see fit.

See how long it lasts, you MIGHT be onto a winner and other clubs will then follow your business model.

Single guys will then praise your name for evermore.

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

While ever men demonstrate Thier desperate sexual desires,the club's will exploit you , it's that simple

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By *kyblue1878Couple
over a year ago

Southport

It is nonsense to suggest that the inflated prices clubs charge men keep them afloat. Our favourite clubs are couples only and survive successfully without the contribution of men. Even in the UK, the better clubs are generally couples only on Saturday nights and don't rely on single guy's. There is a place in the scene for single guy's but let's face it, flooding a club with them will drive the couples away as so many just don't know how to behave and think an expensive entrance fee guarantees some sort of action. It is a shame for the good guys out there.

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By *eorge JetsonMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

"So it is down to us men to keep the clubs open. This year i have been to 4 clubs and have given my support "

Why and how have you been to 4 clubs when a non essential lockdown saw clubs closed??

D'you not think a tiny bit of irresponsibility lies there somewhere amidst the current situation??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So it is down to us men to keep the clubs open. This year i have been to 4 clubs and have given my support

Why and how have you been to 4 clubs when a non essential lockdown saw clubs closed??

D'you not think a tiny bit of irresponsibility lies there somewhere amidst the current situation?? "

Obviously their pricing structure suits the OP.

So why _oan?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That is why I don't go to learn them. Well I go 1 time each ten years ha ha

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By *igjohn78 OP Man
over a year ago

lincoln

"So it is down to us men to keep the clubs open. This year i have been to 4 clubs and have given my support

Why and how have you been to 4 clubs when a non essential lockdown saw clubs closed??

D'you not think a tiny bit of irresponsibility lies there somewhere amidst the current situation?? "
we have not been i lock down all year and some places have been able to open

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

"So it is down to us men to keep the clubs open. This year i have been to 4 clubs and have given my support

Why and how have you been to 4 clubs when a non essential lockdown saw clubs closed??

D'you not think a tiny bit of irresponsibility lies there somewhere amidst the current situation?? "
. I believe during the summer months places like the attic , Eureka , Le Boudior for a couple of Saturday’s and VA did open in some sort of capacity

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By *eorge JetsonMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

"So it is down to us men to keep the clubs open. This year i have been to 4 clubs and have given my support

Why and how have you been to 4 clubs when a non essential lockdown saw clubs closed??

D'you not think a tiny bit of irresponsibility lies there somewhere amidst the current situation??

Obviously their pricing structure suits the OP.

So why _oan?"

Touche....

Doesn't agree with the prices for entry yet went along to 4 different clubs......

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By *igjohn78 OP Man
over a year ago

lincoln

"So it is down to us men to keep the clubs open. This year i have been to 4 clubs and have given my support

Why and how have you been to 4 clubs when a non essential lockdown saw clubs closed??

D'you not think a tiny bit of irresponsibility lies there somewhere amidst the current situation??

Obviously their pricing structure suits the OP.

So why _oan?

Touche....

Doesn't agree with the prices for entry yet went along to 4 different clubs......

"
. I have free membership at 2 clubs and no need to be a member at the other2and all are far priced.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It’s a double edged sword though as the more you charge the guts the higher the proportion will be that feel entitled to get some action.

The single women & couples know they are the click bait before they go & also know that’s why their entrance fee is lower or nothing at all.

Well said, the best clubs I’ve been to as part of a couple or as a single are the ones that keep the prices relatively equal, they also manage the ratios by having to pre book. The higher entrance fees for single blokes tends to attract single men that expect.

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By *eorge JetsonMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

"So it is down to us men to keep the clubs open. This year i have been to 4 clubs and have given my support

Why and how have you been to 4 clubs when a non essential lockdown saw clubs closed??

D'you not think a tiny bit of irresponsibility lies there somewhere amidst the current situation??

Obviously their pricing structure suits the OP.

So why _oan?

Touche....

Doesn't agree with the prices for entry yet went along to 4 different clubs......

. I have free membership at 2 clubs and no need to be a member at the other2and all are far priced. "

???? Then what are you complaining about??? Stick with the clubs you receive free membership at and the other 2 are obviously well within the budget your looking for.

Just don't go to the other clubs that are outside of your price range and you're sorted.

Most men don't have the option of choosing between 4 clubs so you seem to be onto a good thing here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So it is down to us men to keep the clubs open. This year i have been to 4 clubs and have given my support

Why and how have you been to 4 clubs when a non essential lockdown saw clubs closed??

D'you not think a tiny bit of irresponsibility lies there somewhere amidst the current situation??

Obviously their pricing structure suits the OP.

So why _oan?

Touche....

Doesn't agree with the prices for entry yet went along to 4 different clubs......

. I have free membership at 2 clubs and no need to be a member at the other2and all are far priced.

???? Then what are you complaining about??? Stick with the clubs you receive free membership at and the other 2 are obviously well within the budget your looking for.

Just don't go to the other clubs that are outside of your price range and you're sorted.

Most men don't have the option of choosing between 4 clubs so you seem to be onto a good thing here. "

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By *istyblue1967Man
over a year ago

manchester

why _oan

there will be no clubs open in 2021

but id gladly pay them prices if we could get back to normal x

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By *igjohn78 OP Man
over a year ago

lincoln

I had planned to go away on my bike last year for a few days . i found a town with 2 clubs both looked great one no problem fear price the other club had membership higher fee for men

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By *etsplay68Man
over a year ago

beaconsfield

"Agree most single guys who have been going to clubs for a while know how to behave. That said I (Fire) have had come close to physical confrontation with single guys who haven’t taken no for an answer and kept groping Smoke whilst she was playing.

I’m sorry but the best way clubs (and most are experienced in trying different methods ) can try to alleviate the potential for this type of issue is to either restrict the number of males, or charge slightly more. Also as another poster mentioned, if clubs went to limited numbers only, they’d need to take payment at booking due to no-shows (and there are lots of those - ask anybody who’s tried to organise a group of guys for a lady at a private meet)."
Totally agree , as a single bloke i have no problem paying the fee asked and its right that clubs limit the number as you would have dozens of fellas whinging about not getting any action and making it an uncomfortable night for the couples and ladies there , i go to VA on a wednesday sometimes and have on a fair number of times been told is fully booked - not a problem , the ones that _oan about price are the ones that go and feel entitled to get some fun , its a privilege to be asked to join in with some fun not a given and being pleasant and respectful should be part of that , luckily its only a small minority of us fella's that are twats in clubs thank god

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By *lue NoteMan
over a year ago

Chertsey

"Congratulations, then first whinging post about guys being charged more of 2021. Take the rest of the year off, your work here is done"

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham

"The busiest times at Chams when we've been has always been couples night which would suggest that single men don't keep the club open."

I did a rough guesstimate, based on a guess that if you get an average of 50 guys on a night (more on a Friday, less on a Thursday), and that most men attend once a month (some more, some less, obviously) you would have somewhere in the order of 1,500 single guy members. If every guy goes once a month, @ £30 a pop, plus £70 membership (round figures), the revenue from single guys would be in the order of £645,000.

Don't tell me that a sum like that doesn't help to keep the club open.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The busiest times at Chams when we've been has always been couples night which would suggest that single men don't keep the club open.

Don't tell me that a sum like that doesn't help to keep the club open."

No-one is saying it wouldn't help.

But the good clubs would survive anyway.

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over a year ago

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By *exycouplesswingCouple
over a year ago

Tunbridge Wells

Waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa

If you don’t like it, don’t go, or start your own club, charge guys £15 and the try playing spot the women as the club will likely be full of gentleman sausage.

Charging more limits numbers and increases your chances of being noticed. It’s a good thing for you!

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By *ayswings69Man
over a year ago

walsall wood

If single men do not like the price increase then don’t go.

I don’t mind paying more if it’s supporting the club through these hard times.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

"So it is down to us men to keep the clubs open. This year i have been to 4 clubs and have given my support

Why and how have you been to 4 clubs when a non essential lockdown saw clubs closed??

D'you not think a tiny bit of irresponsibility lies there somewhere amidst the current situation??

Obviously their pricing structure suits the OP.

So why _oan?"

Because some people can never ever see the good things in life and aren't happy unless they're unhappy.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa

If you don’t like it, don’t go, or start your own club, charge guys £15 and the try playing spot the women as the club will likely be full of gentleman sausage.

Charging more limits numbers and increases your chances of being noticed. It’s a good thing for you! "

Exactly.

I think some guys (although thankfully a small minority) see swinger clubs and swinging in general as a branch of social sevices.

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By *awpleasureMan
over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield

"Because it would just be a massive sausage fest and you’d get no women or couples in there - it’s not hard to understand "

Could it not be controlled by numbers?

Once so many men have paid for a ticket,then that's it, no more can come in.

That way it can't be a sausage fest as you put it.

But I'd guess it's not feasible because the clubs rely on the extra revenue that the increased males' entrance fee brings in.

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By *irginieWoman
over a year ago

Near Marlborough

I only go to club nights that have single / solo men. And I think price parity for everyone should be standard. Club nights like remix in Swindon charge the same for all.

The “sausage fest” should be prevented by clubs implementing strict entry criteria (again for all) not just men. They should regulate a good balance of numbers across gender and sexuality. This is how you make a good club night.

Just my opinion.

V x

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By *efthandMan
over a year ago

Halton, Cheshire

Over the years I've never felt ripped off by a price I've paid for a club visit.

In some cases this has been to pay an annual membership, in other cases it's just an entry fee for the evening / event.

If it's a new club I've not visited?

Then maybe find an event that allows a one off entry to that specific event? Giving me the opportunity to see the club before deciding if I want to become a member as such.

I'm not saying this is the case... But you can consider that given the ratio of numbers of men to couples to single ladies. And some of the behaviour of the men on here who treat it as a sex site...

Having a reasonable entry fee for men makes them consider if it's somewhere they really want to go to be part of lifestyle and scene.

Not just "oh it's only £15, I'll go along and see what action I can get".

Yes, occasional this will rule out genuine people who can't afford to always go.

But trying to make sure that it's a fair respectful environment as much as possible and for that type of evening I've always been happy with the price I've paid.

As we've seen last year in particular..

Life isn't fair and we make the most of what we have and what we want, and one person's fair isn't the same to everyone.

If someone does like the price? Sadly we just have to deal with it.

If prices to go into a club do rise?

Then I'll evaluate at the time if it's something I want to do. Or I reduce the number of visits.

In the meantime, I'm just hopeful that the club's survive and will be able to open.

That's the bigger issue at the minute, not a discussion around so called unfair pricing.

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By *arbarianzCouple
over a year ago

BARNSTAPLE

I suppose it's much the same AS fab really.

We get 20-30 messages from males for every couple.. you are an over saturated market.

My wife is gorgeous. and if you stand a chance of getting to be in her presence, damn skippy it may cost ya! (costs me enough *shakes credit card in fury*)

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

"Over the years I've never felt ripped off by a price I've paid for a club visit.

In some cases this has been to pay an annual membership, in other cases it's just an entry fee for the evening / event.

If it's a new club I've not visited?

Then maybe find an event that allows a one off entry to that specific event? Giving me the opportunity to see the club before deciding if I want to become a member as such.

I'm not saying this is the case... But you can consider that given the ratio of numbers of men to couples to single ladies. And some of the behaviour of the men on here who treat it as a sex site...

Having a reasonable entry fee for men makes them consider if it's somewhere they really want to go to be part of lifestyle and scene.

Not just "oh it's only £15, I'll go along and see what action I can get".

Yes, occasional this will rule out genuine people who can't afford to always go.

But trying to make sure that it's a fair respectful environment as much as possible and for that type of evening I've always been happy with the price I've paid.

As we've seen last year in particular..

Life isn't fair and we make the most of what we have and what we want, and one person's fair isn't the same to everyone.

If someone does like the price? Sadly we just have to deal with it.

If prices to go into a club do rise?

Then I'll evaluate at the time if it's something I want to do. Or I reduce the number of visits.

In the meantime, I'm just hopeful that the club's survive and will be able to open.

That's the bigger issue at the minute, not a discussion around so called unfair pricing."

Really well said. You can now drop the mic

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Because it would just be a massive sausage fest and you’d get no women or couples in there - it’s not hard to understand

Could it not be controlled by numbers?

Once so many men have paid for a ticket,then that's it, no more can come in.

That way it can't be a sausage fest as you put it.

But I'd guess it's not feasible because the clubs rely on the extra revenue that the increased males' entrance fee brings in. "

While some clubs may rely on that income I would say it wouldn't be feasible for a completely different reason.

How would the club take the advance payment for the "ticket"? Credit card for example?

We all know that many "single" guys in clubs are really married/attached. Would they really want the "swinging cock swinger club" (or whatever) appearing on their statement?

Paypal? same problem, and if they live 50 miles away it isn't that easy to buy the ticket in advance at the club.

Even if they get the "ticket" say a week in advance. Then they would have to take the risk of the Mrs finding it.

Add to all that the extra admin work for the club, so why should they bother. From a clubs point of view (before covid of course) the system wasn't broken so why take on extra work just to satisfy a few _oaners.?

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"We have woman's right gay right but no men's rights how is that right. If men stopped going and paying how long would a club stay open

Maybe one or two that rely on single guys would close. The rest (vast majority) would hardly miss single guys at all. They would just revert to couples only.

Yep great result for the boycott.

No sigle guys in clubs at all.

Very very true.

And the numbers of couples and single women that would start going simply because single guys can't would easily make up any loss in income the club would have.

Maybe if more single guys make a stand we could have exclusive couples clubs, and clubs solely for single men with a cheap entrance price for them??"

Ooh can we have a single women only club as well?!

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By *ilthyBIMan
over a year ago

Stoke- Newcastle staffs

I have been a member of chams for over 20 years i pay a yearly £80 membership fee & £33 every time i go where couples pay 1 membership fee and a lot less then guys when they go .

Im not arguing about that i could pay £50 for the BI membership just for mondays and that is when i go mainly because it is EASILY the best night & not so clicky i have been on every day at chams & it can be very clicky but not on a monday.

I pay the full membership to give me the option.

But my Point is a few years ago they gave you a card that is stamped and every 6th visit is free so at least we get some loyalty .

I just get very annoyed that they have started to let a lot of straight couples & singles in on Bi nights and it spoils the night .They did not used to 10 years ago they were very wild nights & a lot of my Bi couple & single freinds do not go any more for that reason they stick to house parties.

I mean to talk to Mark about that when we can go back in

I DONT MIND PAYING THE MONEY AS LONG AS THE NIGHT IS WHAT IT IS MEANT FOR.

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By *irginieWoman
over a year ago

Near Marlborough

I DONT MIND PAYING THE MONEY AS LONG AS THE NIGHT IS WHAT IT IS MEANT FOR."

Interested in what you mean by that.

I don’t want to assume you mean you don’t mind paying as long as you fuck.

V x

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

I DONT MIND PAYING THE MONEY AS LONG AS THE NIGHT IS WHAT IT IS MEANT FOR.

Interested in what you mean by that.

I don’t want to assume you mean you don’t mind paying as long as you fuck.

V x "

Neither do I, but that's the way it looks by the wording?!

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

Whilst I'd love clubs to be cheaper, I accept that the model most clubs follow (charging single guys a great deal more) seems to work well for them.

I visited my local club 3 times in 2019 at a total cost of £120.00. If they had charged £20.00 entry instead of £40.00, I would gone no more 6 times so the club wouldn't have made any more out of me; infact they may have made less as I don't tend to visit any club that many times regardless of their prices.

So, although lower prices would benefit me, I can't see it happening as there doesn't appear to be any benefit to the clubs... It's business after all.

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By *akedduo66Couple
over a year ago

Near Bordon

I DONT MIND PAYING THE MONEY AS LONG AS THE NIGHT IS WHAT IT IS MEANT FOR.

Interested in what you mean by that.

I don’t want to assume you mean you don’t mind paying as long as you fuck.

V x "

I think he means he doesn't mind paying for a bi night as long as it is a bi night.

He was complaining that straight couples and guys were being let in on a bi night.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

You are right, if the prices were lower then more men would go. Obviously then less couples and women would go, then the men would stop going.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

You are right, if the prices were lower then more men would go. Obviously then less couples and women would go, then the men would stop going."

And then the clubs would close.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

I DONT MIND PAYING THE MONEY AS LONG AS THE NIGHT IS WHAT IT IS MEANT FOR.

Interested in what you mean by that.

I don’t want to assume you mean you don’t mind paying as long as you fuck.

V x

I think he means he doesn't mind paying for a bi night as long as it is a bi night.

He was complaining that straight couples and guys were being let in on a bi night. "

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By *irginieWoman
over a year ago

Near Marlborough

You are right, if the prices were lower then more men would go. Obviously then less couples and women would go, then the men would stop going.

And then the clubs would close. "

But what about the women that only go for the solo men. I like that more men might go.

V x

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Sounds like the original op doesn't do much research as many clubs have a long waiting list for single guys so I wouldn't bother turning up on a whim or planning a weekend without Checking first

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What price should tvs pay should it be free if dressed like a woman or should it be same price as a guy another thread to the argument lol "

Just show your passport at the reception. Sorted

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By *aomilatteCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

" Let's bring equal rights to all "

Male porn stars get paid a lot less than Ladies too. Let's get that sorted too!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Let's bring equal rights to all

Male porn stars get paid a lot less than Ladies too. Let's get that sorted too!

Yep

The wages are low

But the tips are enormous

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By *aomilatteCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

" Let's bring equal rights to all

Male porn stars get paid a lot less than Ladies too. Let's get that sorted too!

Yep

The wages are low

But the tips are enormous

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey OP,

Don't go to clubs if you don't agree with their costs/rules/facilities/whatever, and see if you are keenly missed.....

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

You are right, if the prices were lower then more men would go. Obviously then less couples and women would go, then the men would stop going.

And then the clubs would close.

But what about the women that only go for the solo men. I like that more men might go.

V x "

We love lots of single guys in clubs. We don't even bother with couples only clubs or nights. However we really don't think that lowering the price for guys would make things any better.

Of course there would be more guys but we really don't want the instashag mob descending on the place because it's only 15 quid to get in. And that is what we think would happen.

All the other scenarios (pre-booking Etc.) I've covered above.

For the vast majority of single guys and the clubs themselves. It ain't broke so don't try to fix it.

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By *atonMan
over a year ago

barnet

Strange how women react on here. Its blatant sexism but ok to discriminate against men. The mythology about a patriarchal society exposed again

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By *hris 62Man
over a year ago

HEREFORD

I know what you mean as on low income ,love to trybut to rich for me for a night

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By *hris 62Man
over a year ago

HEREFORD

To rigth that be better all rigth

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By *hris 62Man
over a year ago

HEREFORD

"The busiest times at Chams when we've been has always been couples night which would suggest that single men don't keep the club open."

It may be true but if was less for single male that be different than

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

Let's put it the other way around.

To all the single guys that want equal pricing.

How would YOU work it?

Free for all?

Guest lists?

Pre-booked tickets?

Other alternative?

Tell us what YOU think and why?

Might be worth reading the whole thread fist though.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

"You wouldn't get a way with it in any other sector

Nobody is 'getting away' with anything.

As a members only club, swingers clubs are allowed to charge what they like.

There are very good reasons for charging men more than women or couples.

As others have said, if you don't like it, don't go.

Tbh, you sound very entitled.

Sadly a lot of single guy think they are entitled.

Hence we have the problems we have.

It's such a shame for the decent guys out there."

I genuinely believe there was a better time to be a solo guy in the club scene, but feel I missed that boat, and now we’re all tarred with the leprosy brush

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

Genuine question here, to the single men who are complaining. Do you think you should be paying the same as women or couples are now? Or do you think that women and couples should be paying the same as you are now?

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"The busiest times at Chams when we've been has always been couples night which would suggest that single men don't keep the club open.

It may be true but if was less for single male that be different than "

No it wouldn't because they aren't allowed on couples nights

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"Genuine question here, to the single men who are complaining. Do you think you should be paying the same as women or couples are now? Or do you think that women and couples should be paying the same as you are now?"

We would happily pay same as single guys if they were all like the dreamboys, under 40 and had the manners of a Saint guess that would cut numbers down also we would require proof that they were Definetly single so no strange crazed wives would come hunting

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By *areback communityMan
over a year ago

Liverpool (mainly) Leicester bham and London

They do tho as people still attend and to be fair I have no problems with how my favorite club runs it because it keeps alot of the dross and footsoilders out

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By *atonMan
over a year ago

barnet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe the answer is to have couples and female nights only , and single men only club nights where the men get in cheap.

They can chat to each other and prowl around to their hearts content then.

There are a lot more single females on here who say that would go to clubs if it weren't for single men. They would make up any financial deficit we are sure.

And the single guys could enjoy each other's company!

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By *rMrsRandyCouple
over a year ago

Mids

"Interesting comparing this thread with the others that are looking to financially support clubs through their times of difficulty. "

Can you link me to any threads? I would be interested in supporting a particular club

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The busiest times at Chams when we've been has always been couples night which would suggest that single men don't keep the club open.

It may be true but if was less for single male that be different than

No it wouldn't because they aren't allowed on couples nights"

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By *ymo80Man
over a year ago

grimsby

To be honest I’d rather single me pay more gets rid of time wasters

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By *ugardadcleanerMan
over a year ago

cirencester

Couples only nights we actually steer clear of as cliques form and sometimes very clicky. Hollie bisexual but life in bar can get bitchy

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By *igjohn78 OP Man
over a year ago

lincoln

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

I do not matter just make it feer "

Oh come on, surely you have an opinion? Do you think you should get in free? Or do you think women should pay the £70 you say you have to pay?

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By *oAnCouple
over a year ago

Streatham

Bring your wife/girlfriend and then we can stop just like it was when clubs first started

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By *uadzillaMan
over a year ago

Warwickshire

I personally feel that whatever the club wants to charge then so be it. I'm more than happy to pay more than women, couples as like others have said it cuts the time wasters down. I've seen it first hand my very first day at a club I heard 3 men all standing around in what they called the prey lookout (every single female and couple walk past to the lockers) and then when none of them got the opportunity to play said "piss take I've spent £70" and the other two said "we paid £35 and nothing might not come again. It's those types that unfortunately give other single men a bad name.

Ps when clubs do reopen I certainly will pay whatever it takes to help said club.

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By *werty38Man
over a year ago

Staffordshire

I think you only have to look at the calibre of people in clubs that charge the same and clubs that charge a premium for single guys. Personally I prefer to pay a bit more to sort out the wheat from the chaff. I’ve been a member of Chams for 20+ years and the only times I’ve had cause to complain is then the run a guest list and let non members in the difference in manners and expectation is more than evident. I’m more than happy to keep things as they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So you’ve got 4 clubs that are reasonably priced - so it’s not a case of that you feel there is NOWHERE to go because of pricing structure. So cut your cloth accordingly - it’s like buying your groceries at aldi/Lidl when you would like to get them from Waitrose/M&S - you don’t want to pay the more expensive prices so you shop where you feel the prices are more reasonable. But a/ you’re not having to starve because you have places available who set prices you’re comfortable with and b/ you wouldn’t expect the more expansive vendors to change their pricing structure just because you think they’re taking the piss charging more for the same product.

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham

"...I just get very annoyed that they have started to let a lot of straight couples & singles in on Bi nights and it spoils the night..."

What's the law concerning discrimination on grounds of sexuality? I think you'll find that it's as illegal to prevent straight people attending bi nights as it would be to prevent bi and gay people from attending any other night. If that ruins an exclusive experience then that's the price you pay for advances in Equalities and Diversity that have been vigorously campaigned for.

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By *irginieWoman
over a year ago

Near Marlborough

"Strange how women react on here. Its blatant sexism but ok to discriminate against men. The mythology about a patriarchal society exposed again"

I don’t believe anything I said could be considered discriminatory

V x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being a single fem not into couples or women . I find that there are not enough single guys for the single fem .

You can have 30/40 single fems and 15 single guys . So im with the lads here it is steep at some clubs .

If i know a single guy is going il ask to partner up . That way they get in for a fairer price an we both pay half .

I visit a few clubs north of the border as well as in scotland .

Not every single fems wants or needs couples or fems . So its about time more guys got a break .

Yeah il wait for the back lash for sticking up for the single guy ...

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By *hris 62Man
over a year ago

HEREFORD

I do not matter just make it feer

Oh come on, surely you have an opinion? Do you think you should get in free? Or do you think women should pay the £70 you say you have to pay?"

Yes may such pay the same as men

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

Does a single female pay the same as a single bloke ?

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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

Equality only goes one way it would seem ...

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By *d4fun73Man
over a year ago

Shipley

"Does a single female pay the same as a single bloke ? "

Have you read this thread and many others like it?!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does a single female pay the same as a single bloke ? "

No. A man pays a great deal more.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"Does a single female pay the same as a single bloke ?

Have you read this thread and many others like it?!! "
no that’s why I’m asking a genuine question I could of spent 10 minutes on google but as I’m on here I thought I’d ask a simple question

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Being a single fem not into couples or women . I find that there are not enough single guys for the single fem .

You can have 30/40 single fems and 15 single guys . So im with the lads here it is steep at some clubs .

If i know a single guy is going il ask to partner up . That way they get in for a fairer price an we both pay half .

I visit a few clubs north of the border as well as in scotland .

Not every single fems wants or needs couples or fems . So its about time more guys got a break .

Yeah il wait for the back lash for sticking up for the single guy ...

I wasnt brave enough to post this, but I'm another who doesn't seem couples and would be very disappointed if I attended a non couples only night and found limited single men.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"Does a single female pay the same as a single bloke ?

No. A man pays a great deal more."
thanks it was a genuine question I’m my behalf as I genuinely didn’t know and it wasn’t a case of us against them argument

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"Does a single female pay the same as a single bloke ?

No. A man pays a great deal more. thanks it was a genuine question I’m my behalf as I genuinely didn’t know and it wasn’t a case of us against them argument

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By *d4fun73Man
over a year ago

Shipley

"Does a single female pay the same as a single bloke ?

Have you read this thread and many others like it?!! no that’s why I’m asking a genuine question I could of spent 10 minutes on google but as I’m on here I thought I’d ask a simple question "

What do you think the answer is?

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"Does a single female pay the same as a single bloke ?

Have you read this thread and many others like it?!! no that’s why I’m asking a genuine question I could of spent 10 minutes on google but as I’m on here I thought I’d ask a simple question

What do you think the answer is? "
doesn’t matter what I think as I genuinely didn’t know as I’ve never been to a club

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By *arbarianzCouple
over a year ago

BARNSTAPLE

The more I think about this, surely it really IS academic. the people running the clubs are (and I mean no offence!!) doubtful to be economic majors with a background in bizdev etc etc

So it's as simple as you say. let your big brain do the talking.. and stop going. IF enough blokes did that to make an actual financial DENT. they would of course drop their prices as that makes sense...

So far, I've seen a huge amount of guys complaining about it.. but also going on to state they pay it, and will continue to do so..

which would imply the problem, isn't much of a problem?

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By *he force is strongeCouple
over a year ago

somewhere

"So wourd couples and women pay the mens prise and £30 a year for membership? I bet not "

One of our favourite clubs had some financial difficulties through no fault of there own, but to try and make more money they decided to stop doing couples and single female nights and just do couples single female's and single males.

The price was the same for everyone and the club ended up with more single males dressed in shell suits and scruffs getting d*unk and making the females feel very uncomfortable, we went to play in a couples room and one guy came in and nearly shoved his dick in cazz mouth, cazz nearly punched him in the face,

Needless to say the single female's stopped going and then the couple's started to dwindle down, we haven't been back since and will never go there again.

In our opinion the clubs are mainly for couples and females men pay more to stop the idiots from rolling in off the streets.

If clubs did put there pices up to the same as single males we would happily pay more as we enjoy going .

On a side not tv/ts should be classed as female's mainly because in our experience they are very respectful and also in a minority much the same as single females.

But this is only our opinion and we are all entitled to one

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By *horty4Man
over a year ago

london

"Do private companies have the perogative to underpay women and it is up to women to chose to work there or not?

Of course not, it is sexist and illegal in one domain yet par for the course in another.

Pricing should be equal with a cap on the number of admissions. Problem solved fairly."

That’s a straw man if ever i saw one

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