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"When I see the pubs and restaurants are folding due to the prolonged restrictions and the only club in my local area has shut its doors for good, I wonder if many swingers clubs will survive through this winter. I’m wondering how they can survive and if there are thoughts on how they can operate once reopened. Opinions? " My guess is they will simply up the entrance prices especially for single men and then try and get ad many single guys to pay as much as possible in through the doors. They will then do special offers for couple and single female members to notice them. | |||
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"When I see the pubs and restaurants are folding due to the prolonged restrictions and the only club in my local area has shut its doors for good, I wonder if many swingers clubs will survive through this winter. I’m wondering how they can survive and if there are thoughts on how they can operate once reopened. Opinions? My guess is they will simply up the entrance prices especially for single men and then try and get ad many single guys to pay as much as possible in through the doors. They will then do special offers for couple and single female members to notice them. " It would make for a better atmosphere and therefore healthy return visits to maximise couples with low entrance prices and make up the maximum attendance numbers ( which will probably still be a lower than normal ) with a few single men. A club needs repeat visits from couples and single women not groups of men sharking. | |||
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"This has been discussed loads, but not for a while, so I think it's a legitimate question. Clubs are getting little or no support from councils and government and are relying on donations/raffles/fundraising to pay their ongoing overheads. It's not helping that we are limited to where we can post and advertise our fundraising links. None of us know when we can open as we did before; it's going to be a very long time. If we can get reliable, accurate and affordable fast testing like Polish clubs, it will be sooner rather than later. As for what clubs will still be around. Who knows? I don't want people taking bets on our livelihoods, so it would be good if people could be sensitive in their responses. Some of us are able to open as bars for socisls when in Tier 1. If the venue serves meals, then they could open in Tier 2. Some of us can do small private hires in Tier 1. Some are doing online stuff, some can't open at all as it's not financially viable. If people still want to see their clubs open at the end of all this, then as members, your members club needs your support. Go to your club website and see what options you have for donating or fundraising; maybe they're doing something online that you could support. You could contact them directly on here, but most clubs have taken a break from Fab, so you may not get a fast response. Speculation isn't helpful. Our reality isn't great and we don't need kicking while we're down, so positivity, kind words and support where possible is appreciated Xxxx" I am not bashing the clubs - I am genuinely concerned and lament the loss of the After8 club. It’s good to know that there is fund raising and other activities planned to support the clubs. Given the circumstances I would have hoped FAB could waiver the rules to promote fund raising to help the clubs survive. Maybe community funding is something that could work for some clubs. | |||
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"This has been discussed loads, but not for a while, so I think it's a legitimate question. Clubs are getting little or no support from councils and government and are relying on donations/raffles/fundraising to pay their ongoing overheads. It's not helping that we are limited to where we can post and advertise our fundraising links. None of us know when we can open as we did before; it's going to be a very long time. If we can get reliable, accurate and affordable fast testing like Polish clubs, it will be sooner rather than later. As for what clubs will still be around. Who knows? I don't want people taking bets on our livelihoods, so it would be good if people could be sensitive in their responses. Some of us are able to open as bars for socisls when in Tier 1. If the venue serves meals, then they could open in Tier 2. Some of us can do small private hires in Tier 1. Some are doing online stuff, some can't open at all as it's not financially viable. If people still want to see their clubs open at the end of all this, then as members, your members club needs your support. Go to your club website and see what options you have for donating or fundraising; maybe they're doing something online that you could support. You could contact them directly on here, but most clubs have taken a break from Fab, so you may not get a fast response. Speculation isn't helpful. Our reality isn't great and we don't need kicking while we're down, so positivity, kind words and support where possible is appreciated Xxxx I am not bashing the clubs - I am genuinely concerned and lament the loss of the After8 club. It’s good to know that there is fund raising and other activities planned to support the clubs. Given the circumstances I would have hoped FAB could waiver the rules to promote fund raising to help the clubs survive. Maybe community funding is something that could work for some clubs. " I wasn't referring to you re: bashing/speculation/negativity x | |||
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"When I see the pubs and restaurants are folding due to the prolonged restrictions and the only club in my local area has shut its doors for good, I wonder if many swingers clubs will survive through this winter. I’m wondering how they can survive and if there are thoughts on how they can operate once reopened. Opinions? " I've been wanting to ask this question for a while, but was worried about getting my head bitten off 
Do any of the clubs have a time frame in mind by which they absolutely cannot continue to trade?
I ask this because one particular club owner said back in February when lockdown was only hypothetical,that if they were forced to temporarily close, they wouldn't be able to afford to reopen. Yet they are still around and hanging on. | |||
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"When I see the pubs and restaurants are folding due to the prolonged restrictions and the only club in my local area has shut its doors for good, I wonder if many swingers clubs will survive through this winter. I’m wondering how they can survive and if there are thoughts on how they can operate once reopened. Opinions? I've been wanting to ask this question for a while, but was worried about getting my head bitten off
Do any of the clubs have a time frame in mind by which they absolutely cannot continue to trade?
I ask this because one particular club owner said back in February when lockdown was only hypothetical,that if they were forced to temporarily close, they wouldn't be able to afford to reopen. Yet they are still around and hanging on."I don't think any club is going to divulge that on a public forum to be honest? Their business is their business and February 2020 is quite a different time to December 2020 with club owners being creative in their approach to staying 'alive'. I don't think it's helpful to ask what clubs are struggling or if they are on the brink of bankruptcy. Only time will tell and rather than sit on a forum and speculate who will survive and who won't, it would be great if people could direct that energy into actually helping the clubs and donating to their individual fundraising efforts. This is not me biting your head off by the way as you have been super nice on the forums and supportive of us all. It's a general sweeping statement to those less sensitive on the forums! lol xxx | |||
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"I think a business reliant on close proximity and freedom of movement of customers, but within an adult / sexual context, won’t be first priority for government funding etc, alongside many other businesses sadly. Guidance can change so quickly, and behaviours too, so it’s hard to predict how long some will go. I can’t comment on viability, but even sensible businesses who have saved profits previously / have a healthy balance will not be feeling comfortable now, regarding the future, nevermind clubs of this nature. This site has many people who have enjoyed clubs, and love swinging as a lifestyle choice. If even a small percentage could support financially or contribute in other ways (e.g. donate raffle prizes or be creative) then I am sure that will help to ease that burden, or keep them alive whilst we are all in this pandemic, and that is both selfish and unselfish - give something to keep alive the world that we would like to have when we are on the other side. Just my thoughts. Fingers crossed many make it through. " Sadly what has happened with a lot of hospitality is what happens every January. We are all quieter that time of year, so we refurb, invest in improvements, put money into developing technology etc.... knowing that we will recoup it back in the summer. So when we hit March, a lot of pubs, bars, restaurants, night clubs and adult venues where left with very little savings as we had spent a large portion of profit on reinvestment. 'Sensible businesses'....a lot of my club colleagues are sensible and shrewd business people who have legally and legitimately made a success out of their clubs. Swingers clubs are up there as one of the hardest businesses to navigate in hospitality due to it's very nature and opposition from many angles. So I do hope that WE are counted as sensible businesses. What you suggest is really helpful. If people cannot donate financially, then it could be that some of you could donate time to your local club. Maybe they will be looking to make further improvements once we know what our future looks like and they may be looking for sparks, builders, carpenters, plumbers etc.... Some clubs may welcome donations of goods to raffle. Maybe you sell sex toys or kink equipment which could be donated. Maybe you're a hairdresser and want to donate a hairdoo to the raffles taking place. Maybe your a printer and would like to offer some free marketing material when the clubs open or you're a web designer who could offer an overhaul of websites. I don't know, I'm just throwing these things out there. There are many ways in which you could help your local club through this. If you feel you have nothing to offer, then the nicest thing to receive right now is a message of support. I can't tell you how happy it makes me when one of our guests simply drop us a text or email to spur us on and tell us that they are thinking of us. It's so lovely to know that kinky folk have our back xxx | |||
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"I think a business reliant on close proximity and freedom of movement of customers, but within an adult / sexual context, won’t be first priority for government funding etc, alongside many other businesses sadly. Guidance can change so quickly, and behaviours too, so it’s hard to predict how long some will go. I can’t comment on viability, but even sensible businesses who have saved profits previously / have a healthy balance will not be feeling comfortable now, regarding the future, nevermind clubs of this nature. This site has many people who have enjoyed clubs, and love swinging as a lifestyle choice. If even a small percentage could support financially or contribute in other ways (e.g. donate raffle prizes or be creative) then I am sure that will help to ease that burden, or keep them alive whilst we are all in this pandemic, and that is both selfish and unselfish - give something to keep alive the world that we would like to have when we are on the other side. Just my thoughts. Fingers crossed many make it through. Sadly what has happened with a lot of hospitality is what happens every January. We are all quieter that time of year, so we refurb, invest in improvements, put money into developing technology etc.... knowing that we will recoup it back in the summer. So when we hit March, a lot of pubs, bars, restaurants, night clubs and adult venues where left with very little savings as we had spent a large portion of profit on reinvestment. 'Sensible businesses'....a lot of my club colleagues are sensible and shrewd business people who have legally and legitimately made a success out of their clubs. Swingers clubs are up there as one of the hardest businesses to navigate in hospitality due to it's very nature and opposition from many angles. So I do hope that WE are counted as sensible businesses. What you suggest is really helpful. If people cannot donate financially, then it could be that some of you could donate time to your local club. Maybe they will be looking to make further improvements once we know what our future looks like and they may be looking for sparks, builders, carpenters, plumbers etc.... Some clubs may welcome donations of goods to raffle. Maybe you sell sex toys or kink equipment which could be donated. Maybe you're a hairdresser and want to donate a hairdoo to the raffles taking place. Maybe your a printer and would like to offer some free marketing material when the clubs open or you're a web designer who could offer an overhaul of websites. I don't know, I'm just throwing these things out there. There are many ways in which you could help your local club through this. If you feel you have nothing to offer, then the nicest thing to receive right now is a message of support. I can't tell you how happy it makes me when one of our guests simply drop us a text or email to spur us on and tell us that they are thinking of us. It's so lovely to know that kinky folk have our back xxx " *You're* | |||
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" 'Sensible businesses'....a lot of my club colleagues are sensible and shrewd business people who have legally and legitimately made a success out of their clubs. Swingers clubs are up there as one of the hardest businesses to navigate in hospitality due to it's very nature and opposition from many angles. So I do hope that WE are counted as sensible businesses. What you suggest is really helpful. If people cannot donate financially, then it could be that some of you could donate time to your local club. Maybe they will be looking to make further improvements once we know what our future looks like and they may be looking for sparks, builders, carpenters, plumbers etc.... Some clubs may welcome donations of goods to raffle. Maybe you sell sex toys or kink equipment which could be donated. Maybe you're a hairdresser and want to donate a hairdoo to the raffles taking place. Maybe your a printer and would like to offer some free marketing material when the clubs open or you're a web designer who could offer an overhaul of websites. I don't know, I'm just throwing these things out there. There are many ways in which you could help your local club through this. If you feel you have nothing to offer, then the nicest thing to receive right now is a message of support. I can't tell you how happy it makes me when one of our guests simply drop us a text or email to spur us on and tell us that they are thinking of us. It's so lovely to know that kinky folk have our back xxx " Yep, apologies, I meant generally for businesses, sure that any swinging / bdsm clubs that have are open long term have good leadership, like you say it’s not a walk in the park, in an area of industry that is known for being difficult to start up and grow etc. And I echo the points of your conversation - I’m sure there will be people who can help, without probably even realising it. Hopefully we can play our play where possible  | |||
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"Hi guys Over the past few months we have been following your posts and noted your concerns, your remarks and your very much valued opinions on the future of swingers clubs and the Swinging scene. Firstly I would like to explain that the reason we have refrained from posting a comment on any of the forums is simply due to the lack of true information from our local council and from the government. After a meeting with our local MP, and a further meeting with the local council we now feel we can comment on our current situation. After speaking to the council they made it clear the information I was being given applies to the borough we are in which is Greater Manchester. For information on any other area I would have had to contact the relevant authority. I have also put this information on our web site for your perusal. In the borough of Greater Manchester there are five types of venue that are unable to open under any circumstance until further notice. These are: 1) Disco's 2) Nightclubs 3) Dance Halls 4) Hostess Bars 5) Sexual Entertainment Venues. Partners are registered as a Sexual Entertainment Venue and we have been told we cannot open, we cannot hold private events and we cannot lease or rent the venue to anyone for any purpose. I made a proposal to the council to install six latex sex dolls male and female for use privately on a strict booking system. This application was turned down as I mentioned above we are not allowed to open under any circumstance. We did consider a change of licence allowing us to open with restrictions, however doing this could have cost us our sexual entertainment licence and we decided against this option. While we have been closed we have taken the time to catch up on maintenance work and other work that we were unable to do while we were open. We have completely renewed the drainage system in the wet area and fully re-paved the same. The dungeon area has been re-vamped and everything is looking good. Before we open we will install new carpets throughout the club and a few of the rooms will be given a makeover. The latest information provided to us by Bury Borough Council is that they will review our situation at the end of April 2021. This news is not good news as it means we will have been closed for over 12 months. I appreciate other clubs in other areas are suffering and I offer my sympathy. There IS help out there and I would advise any club owners to contact their local council or better still their local MP to see exactly what help is available. Any further information I receive I will post on our web site www.partnersswingersclub.co.uk. Hope to see you guys in the very near future and stay safe. Merry Xmas and all the best for the New Year. Partners " The problem for many clubs is categorisation. Very few swingers clubs in the UK are classed as SEVs and hold an SEV licence. There isn't one standard classification for swingers club across all authorities. Some of us are night clubs, some are spas, some are private members clubs and some span a few categories. There is limited funding for certain categories depending on several factors including when the business closed, if they were forced to close and if they ever re-opened and then closed when the Tiers came in. Also, a lot of the funding is controlled by the council who will establish if you are eligible or not. Clubs with a licensed bar like ourselves, were told that we could open as a bar in July but some of us chose not to as it wasn't financially viable. This meant that we were excluded from some funding as we were not forced to stay closed and had options to open under other guises. It's bullshit and you can imagine the conversations I've had. Believe me, councils across the country are finding any way they can to avoid paying out. I am in touch with club owners right across the country and how some of them have been treated is disgraceful. It sounds like your council have worked with you, which is amazing; it's good to hear someone is coming through this ok. Best of luck going forward and the refurbs sound great!!!! 
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"When I see the pubs and restaurants are folding due to the prolonged restrictions and the only club in my local area has shut its doors for good, I wonder if many swingers clubs will survive through this winter. I’m wondering how they can survive and if there are thoughts on how they can operate once reopened. Opinions? " Nothing lasts forever, not even this virus We have overcome worst | |||
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"If they dont survive new ones will open when this is all over" This isn’t going to ‘over’ | |||
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"Which clubs have set up fundraisers? Chams members here and haven’t seen anything about a fundraiser but personally we would happily donate and try and support others " Most clubs have info on their websites about any fundraisers ongoing xx | |||
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"Like most businesses that are under continuing pressure due to th Coronavirus some will probably go under but only temporarily I think. There will always be a requirement to satisfy sexual and social pleasures in a safe environment and swinger clubs provide that and I myself have enjoyed them and I hope to enjoy them in the future." No chance | |||
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"Most clubs have info on their websites about any fundraisers ongoing xx" I bet there will be plenty of people on forums telling the world how willing they will be to assist with fund raising. There will also be those, who, on "day one" of "return to normal" will want a refund on the unused proportion of their 2019-2020 membership fees. Welcome to the wonderful world of people.  | |||
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"I personally think that a sex club shouldn't be setting up a fundraiser in the first place and it certainly shouldn't be something swingers should be doing either. I'm sure the people who either own/lease the clubs have another form of income coming in, while the clubs are closed x" Really? Please do share what funding you think we're all getting! | |||
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"I personally think that a sex club shouldn't be setting up a fundraiser in the first place and it certainly shouldn't be something swingers should be doing either. I'm sure the people who either own/lease the clubs have another form of income coming in, while the clubs are closed x" Be sure to let them know won't you I would've thought with a lot closing thier doors for good with no choice would've give you an idea to what they're going through and everytime I see a post like this my heart sinks everytime it's like someone guessing I'd were all going to have a job at the end of this or not so when posting please give some thought to the owners and employees when wording it's hard enough as.it is  | |||
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"I personally think that a sex club shouldn't be setting up a fundraiser in the first place and it certainly shouldn't be something swingers should be doing either. I'm sure the people who either own/lease the clubs have another form of income coming in, while the clubs are closed x" An incredibly narrow point of view - it’s a business like any other and should be entitled to the same support others are getting- fundraisers can help prevent these clubs from simply going bust - we would be fascinated how you justify that statement about why swingers clubs shouldn’t set up a fundraiser- please elaborate | |||
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"I personally think that a sex club shouldn't be setting up a fundraiser in the first place and it certainly shouldn't be something swingers should be doing either. I'm sure the people who either own/lease the clubs have another form of income coming in, while the clubs are closed x Be sure to let them know won't you I would've thought with a lot closing thier doors for good with no choice would've give you an idea to what they're going through and everytime I see a post like this my heart sinks everytime it's like someone guessing I'd were all going to have a job at the end of this or not so when posting please give some thought to the owners and employees when wording it's hard enough as.it is "This reminds me....I must go to the club and water our money tree | |||
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"I personally think that a sex club shouldn't be setting up a fundraiser in the first place and it certainly shouldn't be something swingers should be doing either. I'm sure the people who either own/lease the clubs have another form of income coming in, while the clubs are closed x" Why should they not set up fundraisers? They are not begging for donations to line their pockets they are simply doing whatever it takes to survive this shit show of a year. We personally would donate whatever we can to see a business survive, especially a business that has allowed us to become comfortable as the people we really are. A place that allows thousands of people to find themselves and simply be happy expressing who they really are. Maybe you haven't had these same experiences in any 'sex clubs' you have visited however for alot of people these venues are far more than just a sex club, they are our safe place and a place we would be devastated to lose if they had to close their doors for good. | |||
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"I personally think that a sex club shouldn't be setting up a fundraiser in the first place and it certainly shouldn't be something swingers should be doing either. I'm sure the people who either own/lease the clubs have another form of income coming in, while the clubs are closed x Be sure to let them know won't you I would've thought with a lot closing thier doors for good with no choice would've give you an idea to what they're going through and everytime I see a post like this my heart sinks everytime it's like someone guessing I'd were all going to have a job at the end of this or not so when posting please give some thought to the owners and employees when wording it's hard enough as.it is
This reminds me....I must go to the club and water our money tree"Can't wait to be over again I'll be there with bells on merry Xmas townhouse much love sent your way  | |||
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"I think maybe what Kitty Kat means is that the people who run the clubs, have day jobs on top of having the club. Therefore that income maybe goes toward the upkeep of the club? "Nope. Jim and I worked 90 hour weeks when the club was open. Most clubs have full time owners. Yes I am doing some other temp work for now to PAY OUR OWN HOUSEHOLD BILLS. But what about the thousands a month that clubs leak out of the walls when they are closed? Who pays for that? Hospitality, especially night clubs have been shafted on funding front. | |||
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"When normality returns, if couples and single ladies volunteered to pay the same admission price that single guys pay, if only for a while, I'm sure that would help clear some of the debts that the club owners are racking up. " No business can wait that long and either way ‘normality’ is years away | |||
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"When normality returns, if couples and single ladies volunteered to pay the same admission price that single guys pay, if only for a while, I'm sure that would help clear some of the debts that the club owners are racking up. No business can wait that long and either way ‘normality’ is years away" ^ this 
I personally wouldn't care how much I had to pay to attend (and I do actually mean that) if it saves our clubs.
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"The way forward for clubs is the old United we stand divided we fall. In effect a club association to set common entry criteria did health and ID. This will save the reinvention if the wheel. In addition swinger sites need to find a legal way forward to support the clubs in their Phoenix reopenings as they are linked in a pseudo symbiotic relationship of success or failure. " Many clubs are already working together, which has been amazing
As for swinging sites supporting clubs...hahaha
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"Unfortunately some clubs will go to the wall and some have already closed. Ultimately clubs will reopen as there is a demand for what they provide, plus new ones will spring up. Sadly, as in common with other businesses, people will lose their jobs and their dreams will be crushed. " | |||
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"When I see the pubs and restaurants are folding due to the prolonged restrictions and the only club in my local area has shut its doors for good, I wonder if many swingers clubs will survive through this winter. I’m wondering how they can survive and if there are thoughts on how they can operate once reopened. Opinions? My guess is they will simply up the entrance prices especially for single men and then try and get ad many single guys to pay as much as possible in through the doors. They will then do special offers for couple and single female members to notice them. " I'm not sure how much scope there is for increasing prices before you lose as much as you gain in lower door numbers. And of course the door numbers are going to be a big question mark to begin with when it first re-starts. If it ever restarts. There will be a sizeable number of people who stay away as they don't want to leave their bubble wrap so pricing the remaining options out of the club isn't necessarily a good move from a business perspective. Especially as the quieter a club is the fewer people will want to come, it could become a vicious circle. Some will pay higher prices, others will consider whether its better to simply book a hotel for any pre-arranged meets (About half the time we attend clubs its to have a pre-arranged meet). I am looking forward to the clubs reopening as much as anyone, but I think there might need to be a little more outside the box thinking on getting people through the door | |||
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"I personally think that a sex club shouldn't be setting up a fundraiser in the first place and it certainly shouldn't be something swingers should be doing either. I'm sure the people who either own/lease the clubs have another form of income coming in, while the clubs are closed x" I’ve donated to the fundraiser for CJs which wasn’t set up by them but by a regular. The only thing is Fab doesn’t let you put up the links and ends us removing the link, your profile and suspended one member. It’s extremely difficult to get the word around that there’s a fundraiser. I don’t see how you think club owners have time for a full time job as well as running a club. CJs for instance does have other uses for the club out with club nights and afternoons. The place doesn’t clean itself and there’s laundry to be done. You also have to remember that club owners have mortgages or rent to pay on their homes as well as their clubs. | |||
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"Each time I see a "will this close" thread I think the same thing: its been disczssed to death whether each individual club will survive. Many may not. But there will still be a demand. Even if every club in the UK closes, more will open up once they can. No matter how much people tell us 'life will never be the same', people will still want to go out and do what they did before and whether its existing clubs or new ones, give it a year or two and things will return. Whilever there's a demand they will return in some form." This any demand will be picked up by some someone in the future.
it’s not too dissimilar to the gay community and the beginnings of the pink pound. Some entrepreneurs saw that the Gay community had a lot of disposable income, so opening and actually reaching out to the community and making specific venues not only friendly but actually exclusive to them, then they could make a lot of money and help the LGBTI as an afterthought as well.
Fetish and Swingers club will emerge from this pandemic as there’s a market, hopefully soon.  | |||
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"Been discussed a million times! Opinions are like arseholes! Every one had one! " And the point is? Are you really this rude? | |||
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"When I see the pubs and restaurants are folding due to the prolonged restrictions and the only club in my local area has shut its doors for good, I wonder if many swingers clubs will survive through this winter. I’m wondering how they can survive and if there are thoughts on how they can operate once reopened. Opinions? My guess is they will simply up the entrance prices especially for single men and then try and get ad many single guys to pay as much as possible in through the doors. They will then do special offers for couple and single female members to notice them. " As much as I appreciate a bit of a greedy girl session on occasion, too many guys will put couples and females off from going again. If couples and females aren't coming in, single guys won't either. So doubt that's going to be their approach x | |||
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"Each time I see a "will this close" thread I think the same thing: its been disczssed to death whether each individual club will survive. Many may not. But there will still be a demand. Even if every club in the UK closes, more will open up once they can. No matter how much people tell us 'life will never be the same', people will still want to go out and do what they did before and whether its existing clubs or new ones, give it a year or two and things will return. Whilever there's a demand they will return in some form." Maybe but maybe not. Consider .. right now we are in the middle of it all and at some future point in time (a year or two) things will hopefully be under some control. Then at that stage pressure will be placed on governments to ensure this doesn't happen again . Sex club's even night clubs might be considered too risky .. travel etc . We could be facing a lot of banned activities moving forward. | |||
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"Each time I see a "will this close" thread I think the same thing: its been disczssed to death whether each individual club will survive. Many may not. But there will still be a demand. Even if every club in the UK closes, more will open up once they can. No matter how much people tell us 'life will never be the same', people will still want to go out and do what they did before and whether its existing clubs or new ones, give it a year or two and things will return. Whilever there's a demand they will return in some form. Maybe but maybe not. Consider .. right now we are in the middle of it all and at some future point in time (a year or two) things will hopefully be under some control. Then at that stage pressure will be placed on governments to ensure this doesn't happen again . Sex club's even night clubs might be considered too risky .. travel etc . We could be facing a lot of banned activities moving forward. " 
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"Each time I see a "will this close" thread I think the same thing: its been disczssed to death whether each individual club will survive. Many may not. But there will still be a demand. Even if every club in the UK closes, more will open up once they can. No matter how much people tell us 'life will never be the same', people will still want to go out and do what they did before and whether its existing clubs or new ones, give it a year or two and things will return. Whilever there's a demand they will return in some form. Maybe but maybe not. Consider .. right now we are in the middle of it all and at some future point in time (a year or two) things will hopefully be under some control. Then at that stage pressure will be placed on governments to ensure this doesn't happen again . Sex club's even night clubs might be considered too risky .. travel etc . We could be facing a lot of banned activities moving forward.
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"Each time I see a "will this close" thread I think the same thing: its been disczssed to death whether each individual club will survive. Many may not. But there will still be a demand. Even if every club in the UK closes, more will open up once they can. No matter how much people tell us 'life will never be the same', people will still want to go out and do what they did before and whether its existing clubs or new ones, give it a year or two and things will return. Whilever there's a demand they will return in some form. Maybe but maybe not. Consider .. right now we are in the middle of it all and at some future point in time (a year or two) things will hopefully be under some control. Then at that stage pressure will be placed on governments to ensure this doesn't happen again . Sex club's even night clubs might be considered too risky .. travel etc . We could be facing a lot of banned activities moving forward.
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"Yes they will survive and they will all be open by Easter 2021 " | |||
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"Each time I see a "will this close" thread I think the same thing: its been disczssed to death whether each individual club will survive. Many may not. But there will still be a demand. Even if every club in the UK closes, more will open up once they can. No matter how much people tell us 'life will never be the same', people will still want to go out and do what they did before and whether its existing clubs or new ones, give it a year or two and things will return. Whilever there's a demand they will return in some form. Maybe but maybe not. Consider .. right now we are in the middle of it all and at some future point in time (a year or two) things will hopefully be under some control. Then at that stage pressure will be placed on governments to ensure this doesn't happen again . Sex club's even night clubs might be considered too risky .. travel etc . We could be facing a lot of banned activities moving forward. " This is not going to happen, if we lived in North Korea maybe but no govt will try and stop people having fun in whatever legal way they can. Lets have some positivity here, we are nearly there and most clubs are still here, we are hanging on in there just like everyone else. At some point we will look back and wonder what happened to a year in our lives | |||
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"Yes they will survive and they will all be open by Easter 2021 "Easter? Seriously- what planet are you on?! | |||
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Easter? Seriously- what planet are you on?! "The planet of sense, sensibility and hope | |||
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"Yes they will survive and they will all be open by Easter 2021
Easter? Seriously- what planet are you on?!
The planet of sense, sensibility and hope "well saud, we do not need negativity we need something to look forward to | |||
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"Yes they will survive and they will all be open by Easter 2021
Easter? Seriously- what planet are you on?!
The planet of sense, sensibility and hope well saud, we do not need negativity we need something to look forward to "Yes we do. Nobody really knows what’s going to happen but positivity on this forum seems to have disappeared | |||
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"I personally think that a sex club shouldn't be setting up a fundraiser in the first place and it certainly shouldn't be something swingers should be doing either. I'm sure the people who either own/lease the clubs have another form of income coming in, while the clubs are closed x Be sure to let them know won't you I would've thought with a lot closing thier doors for good with no choice would've give you an idea to what they're going through and everytime I see a post like this my heart sinks everytime it's like someone guessing I'd were all going to have a job at the end of this or not so when posting please give some thought to the owners and employees when wording it's hard enough as.it is
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"I think once we are 15m vaccinated in, then it will be up to people to do as they wish. So as long as you are under 50 (or have had a vaccine) I see no problem with going back to normal. Can’t see that taking longer than Easter. See you all at cjs for the big party. By the time we get to 40m this will all be a distant memory. Our main shielded person gets his jab next week. So we can stop breaking all the rules we have to keep him safe and move on. X" 15 million will take months and takes us down to approx all over 70s vaccinated and you can't see a problem going back to 'normal'! If you think social distancing is going to end in 2021 you are in for a big shock! | |||
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All clubs open by March/April then?!
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All clubs open by March/April then?!
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2022 at best ! "The thing is it’s all guess work isn’t it, let’s just hope | |||
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"I think once we are 15m vaccinated in, then it will be up to people to do as they wish. So as long as you are under 50 (or have had a vaccine) I see no problem with going back to normal. Can’t see that taking longer than Easter. See you all at cjs for the big party. By the time we get to 40m this will all be a distant memory. Our main shielded person gets his jab next week. So we can stop breaking all the rules we have to keep him safe and move on. X 15 million will take months and takes us down to approx all over 70s vaccinated and you can't see a problem going back to 'normal'! If you think social distancing is going to end in 2021 you are in for a big shock! "
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"...Time and time again people are having party's and publically displaying photos of meets and then the clubs are expected to be there..." Of course they are. And for as long as it's acceptable to blame the government for the consequences of what they do, and for as long as they are promised absolution for their responsibilities by voting for the opposition, why not? Everything to gain, nothing to lose. Until these people are ostracised by their peer groups and exposed for their antisocial activities "from within", what's to stop them? If someone was named and shamed, and banned from all clubs in the UK by some kind of coordinated action, for what they have done and what they have put as risk, then it might start to make a difference. That would be a punishment that they would understand. As the likelihood of that happening is on the negative side of zero, they know that they can get away with it. | |||
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"Like everything else in this crazy world at the moment.. If a business fails and goes to the wall, another will rise from its ashes and clubs will carry on .. Unfortunately that means current owners will suffer hardship.. hopefully for them they recover quickly.. But if there’s a gap in the market for clubs later on this year, someone will fill the void .. Be optimistic.. maybe new clubs will be better and be filled with all kinds of new stuff .. " You are probably right in what you say, but come on mate! We are still here so dont write us out of the lifestyle just yet!!!! Talk about out with the old and in with the new!!  | |||
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"I agree, like any business, new ones will pick up where the old ones left. However, I know how hard all of our fellow club owners have worked to get where they are, so I would prefer it if as many current clubs as possible could make it through! " Absolutely. People talking about new clubs taking over once the existing ones have folded sounds like a right kick in the bollocks for club owners. Support what's here, new ones may not open so readily... Anyway on the subject of Townhouse, I managed one visit before covid struck and I can say it was a fantastic club. Wishing you all the best. | |||
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"When I see the pubs and restaurants are folding due to the prolonged restrictions and the only club in my local area has shut its doors for good, I wonder if many swingers clubs will survive through this winter. I’m wondering how they can survive and if there are thoughts on how they can operate once reopened. Opinions? Nothing lasts forever, not even this virus We have overcome worst" well said | |||
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"When I see the pubs and restaurants are folding due to the prolonged restrictions and the only club in my local area has shut its doors for good, I wonder if many swingers clubs will survive through this winter. I’m wondering how they can survive and if there are thoughts on how they can operate once reopened. Opinions? Nothing lasts forever, not even this virus We have overcome worst" Such as? Nothing on such a scale in living history (and WW2 doesn't count) | |||
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" Or more exclusive , country house , vetted people kind of party events " This is my guess to what will start happening in the summer when there is nice weather, people want to meet in groups and no clubs are open. I know it's happening currently as an as hoc arrangement, but I think it will become the replacement for the clubs until (if) they can reopen | |||
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"I see all clubs closing in huge numbers ...doom & gloom "Unless you can prophesise the future (you can’t by the way) why dont you keep your depressing views to yourself 
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" Or more exclusive , country house , vetted people kind of party events This is my guess to what will start happening in the summer when there is nice weather, people want to meet in groups and no clubs are open. I know it's happening currently as an as hoc arrangement, but I think it will become the replacement for the clubs until (if) they can reopen" Exactly, less overheads, smaller, more mobile and flexible reaching a wider audience. Maybe less profit but they build up slowly. Walk before running. | |||
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"I think that once this pandemic is over we will have lost more clubs. I think then some people may organise small gatherings at a large house or hotel.The majority of the people attending will be people known to each other which is good as you like to feel safe and comfortable with people you know.However what about the honest guy that wants to attend a party but can’t because no one knows him.What may well happen is sex parties with paid escorts will increase and be rebranded as swingers party where to a unknown male paying £50 - £80 thinks he is attending a swingers party only to eventually realise it’s a sex party and he still to experience what a swingers experience is as opposed to a sexual experience with a sex worker." What you can't seem to grasp is this pandemic isn't going to be 'over' . Covid is endemic - it's going nowhere . We will have to live with it , that's all | |||
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"Does anyone remember the film demolition man?? All physical activities such as sex and kissing where outlawed lol. " Was an interesting movie indeed. Curiosity and DNA took over. | |||
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"...Covid is endemic - it's going nowhere . We will have to live with it , that's all" As we have to live with Chicken Pox, Measles, HIV and a variety of STD's. | |||
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"I think that once this pandemic is over we will have lost more clubs. I think then some people may organise small gatherings at a large house or hotel.The majority of the people attending will be people known to each other which is good as you like to feel safe and comfortable with people you know.However what about the honest guy that wants to attend a party but can’t because no one knows him.What may well happen is sex parties with paid escorts will increase and be rebranded as swingers party where to a unknown male paying £50 - £80 thinks he is attending a swingers party only to eventually realise it’s a sex party and he still to experience what a swingers experience is as opposed to a sexual experience with a sex worker. What you can't seem to grasp is this pandemic isn't going to be 'over' . Covid is endemic - it's going nowhere . We will have to live with it , that's all" Endemic means is only localised to a certain group of people or a particular country. If it was only a that, it wouldnt be such an issue as it is today. But totally agree it's not going anywhere for many many years to come. | |||
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"When I see the pubs and restaurants are folding due to the prolonged restrictions and the only club in my local area has shut its doors for good, I wonder if many swingers clubs will survive through this winter. I’m wondering how they can survive and if there are thoughts on how they can operate once reopened. Opinions? " I very much doubt it. They haven’t just got to survive this winter, I can’t see any prospect of them opening before the end of this year ( at best) in any form and when they do I suspect the numbers of customers will be drastically reduced until everyone has had the vaccine and infection rates are very low which will be next year or later - if we are lucky. | |||
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"Does anyone remember the film demolition man?? All physical activities such as sex and kissing where outlawed lol. " I really wanted to know how they used the shells when going to the loo!!! For me, it's one of the big unanswered questions! Lol | |||
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"Does anyone remember the film demolition man?? All physical activities such as sex and kissing where outlawed lol. I really wanted to know how they used the shells when going to the loo!!! For me, it's one of the big unanswered questions! Lol " Ha ha ha me too. !!! | |||
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"Does anyone remember the film demolition man?? All physical activities such as sex and kissing where outlawed lol. I really wanted to know how they used the shells when going to the loo!!! For me, it's one of the big unanswered questions! Lol Ha ha ha me too. !!!" Its pretty gross tbh ... | |||
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"Yes they will survive and they will all be open by Easter 2021 "Do you realise how ridiculous you now look?! | |||
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"Does anyone remember the film demolition man?? All physical activities such as sex and kissing where outlawed lol. I really wanted to know how they used the shells when going to the loo!!! For me, it's one of the big unanswered questions! Lol Ha ha ha me too. !!! Its pretty gross tbh ... " True. | |||
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" you hold two seashells like chopsticks, pull gently and scrape what’s left with the third. According to Stallone, who was told by the writer of the film. " I always wondered. Now i know, im not sure if i wanted to lol | |||
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"It be interesting if local councils will ask for there licenced fees for Sex Entertaiment venue fees as it soon be new tax year. " Surely they can't do that? | |||
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"It be interesting if local councils will ask for there licenced fees for Sex Entertaiment venue fees as it soon be new tax year. " Boo, only a couple of clubs in the whole country have SEV licences and licence fees do not fall in line with the tax year. If a licence was granted in September, then it will be due every September. If clubs are not providing any licenced services and are closed for the foreseeable, then there is room for negotiation. If a club is licensed for alcohol and has been/will be opening for socials, then they would have been paying their licence fee, but could possibly negotiate their licence during lockdown/tiers | |||
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"I said on this forum as early as March last year that clubs wouldn't open again for a very long time. And it doesn't give me any pleasure in saying that I think they will be closed at least for much of this year. Especially with this new variant which is highly contagious. Just because we have a vaccine rollout I don't think the way we presently live such as wearing masks and social distancing will disappear anytime soon. It will take a long time for data to be collected on this vaccine on its protection period and its effectiveness in reducing the spread. Its sad to see clubs closing. Like our high street shops that are closing and are thinking of new methods to save our high streets maybe clubs might have to rethink their buisness models in order to survive. " Any suggestions for them? | |||
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"I said on this forum as early as March last year that clubs wouldn't open again for a very long time. And it doesn't give me any pleasure in saying that I think they will be closed at least for much of this year. Especially with this new variant which is highly contagious. Just because we have a vaccine rollout I don't think the way we presently live such as wearing masks and social distancing will disappear anytime soon. It will take a long time for data to be collected on this vaccine on its protection period and its effectiveness in reducing the spread. Its sad to see clubs closing. Like our high street shops that are closing and are thinking of new methods to save our high streets maybe clubs might have to rethink their buisness models in order to survive. Any suggestions for them?" Entrance only granted to people that test COVID negative. There are tests that return results in circa 40 minutes. | |||
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"I said on this forum as early as March last year that clubs wouldn't open again for a very long time. And it doesn't give me any pleasure in saying that I think they will be closed at least for much of this year. Especially with this new variant which is highly contagious. Just because we have a vaccine rollout I don't think the way we presently live such as wearing masks and social distancing will disappear anytime soon. It will take a long time for data to be collected on this vaccine on its protection period and its effectiveness in reducing the spread. Its sad to see clubs closing. Like our high street shops that are closing and are thinking of new methods to save our high streets maybe clubs might have to rethink their buisness models in order to survive. Any suggestions for them? Entrance only granted to people that test COVID negative. There are tests that return results in circa 40 minutes. Wow - amazing. I'm sure they haven't thought of that! " | |||
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"My personal opinion is that a lot will close and the ones that do survive will be bigger and better as less compition! I also think house party’s will be in the rise as less restrictions " . I agree house parties will be on the rise and we will lose some clubs along the way.It will be interesting to see those that do survive how much of a increase in entrance fees there will be or if they can freeze their prices which would be nice although the realist in me suspects there will be a increase. | |||
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"My personal opinion is that a lot will close and the ones that do survive will be bigger and better as less compition! I also think house party’s will be in the rise as less restrictions " Less competition usually equates to lower quality. And higher prices. | |||
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"My personal opinion is that a lot will close and the ones that do survive will be bigger and better as less compition! I also think house party’s will be in the rise as less restrictions . I agree house parties will be on the rise and we will lose some clubs along the way.It will be interesting to see those that do survive how much of a increase in entrance fees there will be or if they can freeze their prices which would be nice although the realist in me suspects there will be a increase." There will always be those who will pay as is known by the clubs. I'd imagine some will take the opportunity to charge higher on the basis that many have got desperate over the restrictions and so will pay. This might set the trend for higher fees that they can get away with. If they can fair play. The house parties are sometimes quite expensive too but others are not. Many will say most things have increased so they all need to as well and go with it. There will be those who pay and there will be others who won't, just like before the pandemic. | |||
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"When I see the pubs and restaurants are folding due to the prolonged restrictions and the only club in my local area has shut its doors for good, I wonder if many swingers clubs will survive through this winter. I’m wondering how they can survive and if there are thoughts on how they can operate once reopened. Opinions? My guess is they will simply up the entrance prices especially for single men and then try and get ad many single guys to pay as much as possible in through the doors. They will then do special offers for couple and single female members to notice them. It would make for a better atmosphere and therefore healthy return visits to maximise couples with low entrance prices and make up the maximum attendance numbers ( which will probably still be a lower than normal ) with a few single men. A club needs repeat visits from couples and single women not groups of men sharking. " Problem is clubs up the prices for single men do they allow too many in at an inflated price to make up the shotful by letting in couples and single ladies in for free. | |||
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"When I see the pubs and restaurants are folding due to the prolonged restrictions and the only club in my local area has shut its doors for good, I wonder if many swingers clubs will survive through this winter. I’m wondering how they can survive and if there are thoughts on how they can operate once reopened. Opinions? My guess is they will simply up the entrance prices especially for single men and then try and get ad many single guys to pay as much as possible in through the doors. They will then do special offers for couple and single female members to notice them. It would make for a better atmosphere and therefore healthy return visits to maximise couples with low entrance prices and make up the maximum attendance numbers ( which will probably still be a lower than normal ) with a few single men. A club needs repeat visits from couples and single women not groups of men sharking. Problem is clubs up the prices for single men do they allow too many in at an inflated price to make up the shotful by letting in couples and single ladies in for free. " I doubt any club reopening after the restrictions are lifted will feel the need to raise their entry fees for any demographic. I imagine the first month will be the busiest nights (and days) many will have seen......ever! | |||
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"When this is over everyone will go crazy, there will be massive demand for everything we couldn't do. The clubs will busier than ever, particularly if there are fewer of them." They will be busy only for first few months ,that too most weekends only . My concern is there need to be more comprehensive approach to sustain the clubs from such pandemics in future. Need to be innovative I guess. | |||
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"I said on this forum as early as March last year that clubs wouldn't open again for a very long time. And it doesn't give me any pleasure in saying that I think they will be closed at least for much of this year. Especially with this new variant which is highly contagious. Just because we have a vaccine rollout I don't think the way we presently live such as wearing masks and social distancing will disappear anytime soon. It will take a long time for data to be collected on this vaccine on its protection period and its effectiveness in reducing the spread. Its sad to see clubs closing. Like our high street shops that are closing and are thinking of new methods to save our high streets maybe clubs might have to rethink their buisness models in order to survive. " On news today that people who have recieved vaccine are less likely to pass on the virus Looks like vaccinations are the way forward to irradicating the virus full stop | |||
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"I said on this forum as early as March last year that clubs wouldn't open again for a very long time. And it doesn't give me any pleasure in saying that I think they will be closed at least for much of this year. Especially with this new variant which is highly contagious. Just because we have a vaccine rollout I don't think the way we presently live such as wearing masks and social distancing will disappear anytime soon. It will take a long time for data to be collected on this vaccine on its protection period and its effectiveness in reducing the spread. Its sad to see clubs closing. Like our high street shops that are closing and are thinking of new methods to save our high streets maybe clubs might have to rethink their buisness models in order to survive. On news today that people who have recieved vaccine are less likely to pass on the virus Looks like vaccinations are the way forward to irradicating the virus full stop" can't wait to get mine | |||
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"Swingers will survive and so will the clubs. After covid im looking at setting.my own place up." will it be a club? | |||
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"Swingers will survive and so will the clubs. After covid im looking at setting.my own place up." Have you bought asylum ? | |||
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"Suppose the quicker everyone is vaccinated the sooner clubs will reopen and normally resumes " I hope so. | |||
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"When I see the pubs and restaurants are folding due to the prolonged restrictions and the only club in my local area has shut its doors for good, I wonder if many swingers clubs will survive through this winter. I’m wondering how they can survive and if there are thoughts on how they can operate once reopened. Opinions? Nothing lasts forever, not even this virus We have overcome worst Such as? Nothing on such a scale in living history (and WW2 doesn't count)" For those who have reach 100 years old, then they would have survived Spanish Flu. so if they still have the mental faculties then, that would be in living memory. | |||
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"I personally think that a sex club shouldn't be setting up a fundraiser in the first place and it certainly shouldn't be something swingers should be doing either. I'm sure the people who either own/lease the clubs have another form of income coming in, while the clubs are closed x Why should they not set up fundraisers? They are not begging for donations to line their pockets they are simply doing whatever it takes to survive this shit show of a year. We personally would donate whatever we can to see a business survive, especially a business that has allowed us to become comfortable as the people we really are. A place that allows thousands of people to find themselves and simply be happy expressing who they really are. Maybe you haven't had these same experiences in any 'sex clubs' you have visited however for alot of people these venues are far more than just a sex club, they are our safe place and a place we would be devastated to lose if they had to close their doors for good." This!!! | |||
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