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"If it happens that is - according to sky news That’s actually made us kinda excited Xxx" Would be SO good | |||
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" That's a very specific date. So we all wake up on the 4th and the world is back to normal? What do they base this theory on? " April 4th 2021 just happens to be Easter Sunday. So, rather than just say 'by Easter' Sky have put a date to it. Fingers crossed anyway! | |||
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" That's a very specific date. So we all wake up on the 4th and the world is back to normal? What do they base this theory on? April 4th 2021 just happens to be Easter Sunday. So, rather than just say 'by Easter' Sky have put a date to it. Fingers crossed anyway!" If that is Easter Sunday, then Mondya 5th is a Bank Holiday and then first working day is the 6th Appril, which just so happens to be the start of the tax/fiscal year. Very convienient for the Government to pick that day | |||
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"If it happens that is - according to sky news That’s actually made us kinda excited Xxx" That's not what was said at all. Actually what Boris said yesterday is that he expects the tier system in place at least until Easter, which surely goes without saying. We don't know the rollout timetable of vaccinations, supply uptake, delays, success etc so if anyone thinks we will see the end of social distancing in 2021, I suspect they are going to be very disappointed | |||
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"If it happens that is - according to sky news That’s actually made us kinda excited Xxx" Me too means only one thing fun fun fun | |||
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" April 4th 2021 just happens to be Easter Sunday. So, rather than just say 'by Easter' Sky have put a date to it. Fingers crossed anyway! If that is Easter Sunday, then Mondya 5th is a Bank Holiday and then first working day is the 6th Appril, which just so happens to be the start of the tax/fiscal year. Very convienient for the Government to pick that day " WTF!!?? | |||
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"Over a year, longest 3wks to flatten the curve ever. 64,000 died of flu in January 2018, more than whole 2020, nothing shutdown then " Not like for like. If you look at the predicted models of deaths that would have occurred if we carried on as normal then the deaths in 2020 would have been huge, in the millions (although the model also suggests the virus would have burnt out by now). So surely the resultant lower numbers of death in 2020 show that these measures have worked to prevent many deaths? | |||
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"Every since the first lockdown in March we keep getting drip fed a date in the near future when everything will be back to normal. Remember when we were told everything would be normal by Christmas if we behaved in the first lockdown ?" But people didn't behave in the first lockdown which is why this is still rumbling on | |||
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"I just hope the highways agency are prepared for the carnage at J9 M6 on the day Chameleons reopens?" Ohhh for that day xx | |||
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" How many of you will get this vaccine? Does anyone know the side effects say 10years from now? No? Well I’m just saying think about before injecting and stay safe peeps " The side effect may be that you're still alive! | |||
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"Every since the first lockdown in March we keep getting drip fed a date in the near future when everything will be back to normal. Remember when we were told everything would be normal by Christmas if we behaved in the first lockdown ?" Lol ... back in March some people on here where convinced the clubs would reopen in august ..august 2021 might be more realistic. . | |||
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"I say we are looking at another 12 months. Government departments can't build roads with out a delay let alone a UK roll out of vaccine, HS2 will be up and running before it a hot sexy club night." I’d say you are about right. We have to get everybody vaccinated first and then get the infection rate low enough before a great deal changes. A lot might depend on how many get vaccinated. If the percentage isn’t high enough we could be waiting a lot longer. | |||
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"Every since the first lockdown in March we keep getting drip fed a date in the near future when everything will be back to normal. Remember when we were told everything would be normal by Christmas if we behaved in the first lockdown ? Lol ... back in March some people on here where convinced the clubs would reopen in august ..august 2021 might be more realistic. . " Well we know people that went to clubs in August, September and we went in October. So those people were right weren’t they. | |||
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"Every since the first lockdown in March we keep getting drip fed a date in the near future when everything will be back to normal. Remember when we were told everything would be normal by Christmas if we behaved in the first lockdown ? Lol ... back in March some people on here where convinced the clubs would reopen in august ..august 2021 might be more realistic. . Well we know people that went to clubs in August, September and we went in October. So those people were right weren’t they. " Some were open for socials only . They won’t be opening for play for a very long time. This time next year even , seems to be a little optimistic | |||
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"Every since the first lockdown in March we keep getting drip fed a date in the near future when everything will be back to normal. Remember when we were told everything would be normal by Christmas if we behaved in the first lockdown ? Lol ... back in March some people on here where convinced the clubs would reopen in august ..august 2021 might be more realistic. . Well we know people that went to clubs in August, September and we went in October. So those people were right weren’t they. Some were open for socials only . They won’t be opening for play for a very long time. This time next year even , seems to be a little optimistic " Now that is not good news. | |||
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"Every since the first lockdown in March we keep getting drip fed a date in the near future when everything will be back to normal. Remember when we were told everything would be normal by Christmas if we behaved in the first lockdown ? Lol ... back in March some people on here where convinced the clubs would reopen in august ..august 2021 might be more realistic. . Well we know people that went to clubs in August, September and we went in October. So those people were right weren’t they. Some were open for socials only . They won’t be opening for play for a very long time. This time next year even , seems to be a little optimistic " On not sure you know because if this vaccine is effective and it's looking like me then the hospital and death rates will be so much lower so I think things will be able to open up to a much more normal level. After all it isn't the infection rates that are the a problem it is the hospitalisation and deaths. | |||
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"Let's hope it's all over by April . 1,300 people die ever day and 1,300 with die on April 4th, because 1,300 die most days, time to start living before we are one of the 1300 ." Be careful cos you or are a loved one will be 1 of those 1300 before then! | |||
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"Let's hope it's all over by April . 1,300 people die ever day and 1,300 with die on April 4th, because 1,300 die most days, time to start living before we are one of the 1300 ." And those people will still die so let's not add to that number by spreading this virus! | |||
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"How, does, that work when government ministers have said masks and social distancing will more than likely be here till the summer. Sky news,... oh did Kay Burley say this like. These people need to stop giving out false signals. Too many folk take things literally " Exactly and we need to make certain that people are protected also its been estimated that The majority of the population won't have access to any vaccine till April so won't be protected till mid May. | |||
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"Let's hope it's all over by April . 1,300 people die ever day and 1,300 with die on April 4th, because 1,300 die most days, time to start living before we are one of the 1300 . Be careful cos you or are a loved one will be 1 of those 1300 before then! " In my job I go into 25/30 houses every week, and this most dangerous virus known to man keeps missing me and all my work mates . We must all be super human or very lucky, or maybe not as dangerous as the media make it out to be. | |||
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"Let's hope it's all over by April . 1,300 people die ever day and 1,300 with die on April 4th, because 1,300 die most days, time to start living before we are one of the 1300 . Be careful cos you or are a loved one will be 1 of those 1300 before then! In my job I go into 25/30 houses every week, and this most dangerous virus known to man keeps missing me and all my work mates . We must all be super human or very lucky, or maybe not as dangerous as the media make it out to be. " You are a very lucky man . I'm sure the bereaved families of the 65000 who have lost loved ones in the UK will be very happy for you. | |||
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"Let's hope it's all over by April . 1,300 people die ever day and 1,300 with die on April 4th, because 1,300 die most days, time to start living before we are one of the 1300 . Be careful cos you or are a loved one will be 1 of those 1300 before then! In my job I go into 25/30 houses every week, and this most dangerous virus known to man keeps missing me and all my work mates . We must all be super human or very lucky, or maybe not as dangerous as the media make it out to be. " Or maybe you've had it, asymptomatic and carry anti bodies. | |||
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"So everyone will be vaccinated by 3rd April ?" what good sill tgat do? Vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it or spreading it and they advise to carry on social distance measures!! So when will this end? | |||
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"Every since the first lockdown in March we keep getting drip fed a date in the near future when everything will be back to normal. Remember when we were told everything would be normal by Christmas if we behaved in the first lockdown ?" 100% right it’s to keep the control | |||
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"Over a year, longest 3wks to flatten the curve ever. 64,000 died of flu in January 2018, more than whole 2020, nothing shutdown then " Shhhh the sheep will call you a conspiracy theroyist and other nasty names | |||
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"So everyone will be vaccinated by 3rd April ? what good sill tgat do? Vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it or spreading it and they advise to carry on social distance measures!! So when will this end?" It never ends. This is the new normal. | |||
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"So everyone will be vaccinated by 3rd April ? what good sill tgat do? Vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it or spreading it and they advise to carry on social distance measures!! So when will this end? It never ends. This is the new normal." Once everybody has been vaccinated in the UK that is it there is nothing more that can be done. Both the government and the medical experts have said there will still be deaths rather like there are still deaths with flu but the strain on the NHS will be less so there will be no need to keep the restrictions and they will be lifted. Whether as a nation we continue to wear masks and wash and sanitize our hands repeatedly remains to be seen. | |||
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"If it happens that is - according to sky news That’s actually made us kinda excited Xxx" Hahaha... No chance, I just can't believe people are still so gullible. After 12 months of being lied to and your rights being taken away and people are still prepared to follow those twats in Parliament. Everything they have done has been wrong & botched why would we follow them for another year? I'm not having a go just angry that we allow these idiots to run our lives. If the UK were a company they'd be sacked within a week, no question. | |||
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"Every since the first lockdown in March we keep getting drip fed a date in the near future when everything will be back to normal. Remember when we were told everything would be normal by Christmas if we behaved in the first lockdown ?" People didn't behave in the first lockdown! | |||
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"If it happens that is - according to sky news That’s actually made us kinda excited Xxx Hahaha... No chance, I just can't believe people are still so gullible. After 12 months of being lied to and your rights being taken away and people are still prepared to follow those twats in Parliament. Everything they have done has been wrong & botched why would we follow them for another year? I'm not having a go just angry that we allow these idiots to run our lives. If the UK were a company they'd be sacked within a week, no question. " You are so completely right. They are a circus act bungling government led by by that incompletent clown in chief bumbling Boris. | |||
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"Hope clubs can come back soon. Anyone help me with getting invited to a club. Abit new to all of this! Appreciate it " No invite needed at the Gatehouse when it re opens just turn up at the door. | |||
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"Hope clubs can come back soon. Anyone help me with getting invited to a club. Abit new to all of this! Appreciate it No invite needed at the Gatehouse when it re opens just turn up at the door." Thank you! Gatehouse... I’ll remember that. Hopefully see you there soon! Fingers crossed | |||
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"I think by getting back to normal they are meaning that people can get to work, shops opening, pubs opening etc: But apart from all this there will still be restrictions in place in what we can and can't do. Travel restrictions with testing required on entry to countries will I think still be needed. The wearing of face masks and social distancing will still be with us, and this unfortunately will be the new normal. This virus is mutating at such an alarming rate that it will be impossible to lift these measures as it is not known what protection the vaccine will offer to all these new strains that are emerging. " I don't think there's evidence of the virus mutating at an alarming rate, though it does mutate of course. The more people that get infected, the greater the probability that some mutations are advantageous to the virus. Once people have been vaccinated in large numbers, it's possible that a mutation has a selective advantage against its effects and starts to increase its prevalence amongst the population. Several of the vaccines in use are fairly quick to be able to adjust them, to work against any variant that isn't fully targeted. International travel restrictions also hamper the flow of variants between countries - should there be competent governments in charge This virus is relatively slow to mutate, compared to others such as the flu viruses, for example, which works in our favour, to get it more under control. | |||
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"Over a year, longest 3wks to flatten the curve ever. 64,000 died of flu in January 2018, more than whole 2020, nothing shutdown then " nope nithing closed as it was just the flu uk total deaths 2019 and 2020 very much similar and less then 2018 | |||
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"Every since the first lockdown in March we keep getting drip fed a date in the near future when everything will be back to normal. Remember when we were told everything would be normal by Christmas if we behaved in the first lockdown ?" A carrot to dangle in front of us before hitting us with another big stick. | |||
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"That's a very specific date. So we all wake up on the 4th and the world is back to normal? What do they base this theory on?" i thought this very exact announcement abit like donald never having covid yet odviously he did seen on tv lol | |||
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"Over a year, longest 3wks to flatten the curve ever. 64,000 died of flu in January 2018, more than whole 2020, nothing shutdown then nope nithing closed as it was just the flu uk total deaths 2019 and 2020 very much similar and less then 2018" The government updated medium yearly average figure as of October 2020 for yearly deaths of influenza and other respiratory disease is 17,000. Covid is very clearly a much more serious and deadly virus. | |||
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"If it happens that is - according to sky news That’s actually made us kinda excited Xxx" No chance. Spring 2022 maybe. But I fear we still have a year of uncertainty ahead and winter 2021/2022 will be the real litmus test. Things may improve somewhat as we enter Spring, but normality I fear is a long way off yet. | |||
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"There won't be a return to the old normal " Agreed. Many, many people will be socially cautious for a long time to come, no matter when things get better with Covid. | |||
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"Don't forget that we were told last March, that we'd be over the worst by the summer!! " | |||
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"I sincerely doubt this claim. As long as there are still anti vaccine nutjobs out there who will refuse the jab then we will never see the end of Face masks or social distancing, therefore clubs and other 'adult' venues will remain closed." If you have the jab , why worry if others don't . You will be immune so you're life goes back to normal. | |||
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"I sincerely doubt this claim. As long as there are still anti vaccine nutjobs out there who will refuse the jab then we will never see the end of Face masks or social distancing, therefore clubs and other 'adult' venues will remain closed." you are right but the nut jobs are just a noisy minority plenty will take the vaccine, but it will take until September, BTW you look cool ?? | |||
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"I sincerely doubt this claim. As long as there are still anti vaccine nutjobs out there who will refuse the jab then we will never see the end of Face masks or social distancing, therefore clubs and other 'adult' venues will remain closed.If you have the jab , why worry if others don't . You will be immune so you're life goes back to normal. " From a selfish point of view yes. But the social mixing of vaccinated and unvaccinated people in the presence of the virus is probably its best opportunity of mutation. The reason it is mutating now is because there are people who are immune to the original variant through having it being re-exposed to it again. | |||
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"I sincerely doubt this claim. As long as there are still anti vaccine nutjobs out there who will refuse the jab then we will never see the end of Face masks or social distancing, therefore clubs and other 'adult' venues will remain closed." Yes we will as once all those who want the vaccination have had it restrictions will be slowly eased. The Anti-vax people have made their choice they will have to accept the risk. I imagine that they may find life becomes difficult for them as rules are put in place saying you must be vaccinated to go in holiday. If you apply for a new job then you will have to have had the jab etc. | |||
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"It will come to the point I think when travel and venues, and employers also will insist on a 'covid passport' to gain access.. And quite rightly so.. " Why Covid especially, and not measles or chicken pox, or HIV, or any one of a range of viruses? I think there will come a time when the vaccination programme has run it's course when getting immunised against covid will be as common as kids getting the MMR or TB jabs, and "normality" will return again. No special passports needed. | |||
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"The truth is, there were 50k excess winter death - not all flu - in the 2017/18 season according to the British Medical Journal so I don't know where this 64k comes from. If I was forced to guess, I'd say someone pulled that number out of their ass. " The medium yearly fighres updater in October 2020 is 17000 deaths from influenza and other respiratory disease... Fals far short of the now approaching 100,000 covid deaths.. | |||
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"It will come to the point I think when travel and venues, and employers also will insist on a 'covid passport' to gain access.. And quite rightly so.. Why Covid especially, and not measles or chicken pox, or HIV, or any one of a range of viruses? I think there will come a time when the vaccination programme has run it's course when getting immunised against covid will be as common as kids getting the MMR or TB jabs, and "normality" will return again. No special passports needed." Measels and Chickenpox have been controlled by mass vaccination and in time hopefully this will mitigate the risk of covid, though some way off from achieving this from this highly contagious virus. HIV is still a very dangerous disease whose symptoms are conrolled by drugs, and unfortunately this along with vaccination and continued social distancing may be the only way forward with covid. | |||
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"I sincerely doubt this claim. As long as there are still anti vaccine nutjobs out there who will refuse the jab then we will never see the end of Face masks or social distancing, therefore clubs and other 'adult' venues will remain closed.If you have the jab , why worry if others don't . You will be immune so you're life goes back to normal. " From our understanding the jab will not give you immunity it will lessen your chances of becoming really ill? | |||
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"Hate to break it to you but we will categorically not be back to normal in April. Witty is already on record stating that social distancing and other measures will be necessary next winter. With the new mutations and huge logistical task of vaccinating millions of people this is going to take a considerable period of time to restore normality, and that's if we can even fully return to the old ways in which we used to live. " Yeah and social distancing might become the new normal for years to come, I don't see any quick fix for this fucked up virus. | |||
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"I keep reading forums and leave with lost hope of ever getting back to full play...so depressing" Keep the faith! Good times are coming | |||
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"I keep reading forums and leave with lost hope of ever getting back to full play...so depressing" Probably best to avoid some threads if you are feeling that way | |||
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"Do any of you go into pubs ? If so, when in the pubs do you drink alcohol ? If so, does that lower your inhibitions ? Would you then be hugging & kissing friends etc, maybe even scoring with someone and having a shag ? Yes ? Then given the economic crisis facing the UK, do you not think pubs will be open back end of March when all the over 50s will have had at least one jab. Which means that the deaths from Covid are really low. Then if behaviour like the above can go on in pubs, why can't the clubs open ?" No chance of the over 50s having a 1st jab by the back end of March. That would mean 4million jabs a week - double the best target. Nowhere have they claimed all over 50s vaccinated by then. Very little chance of pubs opening in March and even when they do it will obviously be with strict social distancing. The odd club with an alcohol license may open for socials only in a few months but as social distancing is going nowhere in 2021 maybe even 2022, clubs won't be able to open for play | |||
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"Do any of you go into pubs ? If so, when in the pubs do you drink alcohol ? If so, does that lower your inhibitions ? Would you then be hugging & kissing friends etc, maybe even scoring with someone and having a shag ? Yes ? Then given the economic crisis facing the UK, do you not think pubs will be open back end of March when all the over 50s will have had at least one jab. Which means that the deaths from Covid are really low. Then if behaviour like the above can go on in pubs, why can't the clubs open ?" March next year maybe.. And when pubs do reopen it will be with masks and social distancing in place. A bit different from a swingers club being allowed to open. | |||
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"I think the actual date of everything getting back to normal is April 1st " Don't you go getting my Hope's up haha | |||
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"Do any of you go into pubs ? If so, when in the pubs do you drink alcohol ? If so, does that lower your inhibitions ? Would you then be hugging & kissing friends etc, maybe even scoring with someone and having a shag ? Yes ? Then given the economic crisis facing the UK, do you not think pubs will be open back end of March when all the over 50s will have had at least one jab. Which means that the deaths from Covid are really low. Then if behaviour like the above can go on in pubs, why can't the clubs open ? No chance of the over 50s having a 1st jab by the back end of March. That would mean 4million jabs a week - double the best target. Nowhere have they claimed all over 50s vaccinated by then. Very little chance of pubs opening in March and even when they do it will obviously be with strict social distancing. The odd club with an alcohol license may open for socials only in a few months but as social distancing is going nowhere in 2021 maybe even 2022, clubs won't be able to open for play " From today's Evening Standard; The government is planning to end lockdown in March after cabinet members agreed that waiting until the summer when most people will have been vaccinated would lead to yet more economic misery, according to reports. Ministers are drawing up a timetable to scale back restrictions despite the Sage Advisory committee calling for delays, it has been reported. Previously the cabinet has been split between those who want to open up the economy as quickly as possible and those who are more cautious and want to follow Sage advice to the letter. Under the plans areas will be put into lower tiers once their death rate has fallen and the number of 50-70 year olds being admitted to hospital has fallen, according to a report in the Sunday Times. Dominic Raab told BBC One’s The Andrew Marr Show on Sunday: “The aim is by the middle of February to have 88% of those most at risk of dying of coronavirus with their first jab, and by the early spring to have 99% – so that is the milestone if you like. “I think it is true to say that when we get to a situation in the early spring, perhaps March, if we succeed in hitting those targets – we have made good process so far – we can start to think about the phased transition out of the national lockdown. Please look up the relevant articles on-line, DO NOT take my word for it. Of course once restrictions are lifted, no one is forcing you to come out. | |||
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"That's a very specific date. So we all wake up on the 4th and the world is back to normal? What do they base this theory on?" When you get a reply will you let us know what time on the 4th, 7am or after lunch, makes all the difference. | |||
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"If it happens that is - according to sky news That’s actually made us kinda excited Xxx" 2023 | |||
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"Do any of you go into pubs ? If so, when in the pubs do you drink alcohol ? If so, does that lower your inhibitions ? Would you then be hugging & kissing friends etc, maybe even scoring with someone and having a shag ? Yes ? Then given the economic crisis facing the UK, do you not think pubs will be open back end of March when all the over 50s will have had at least one jab. Which means that the deaths from Covid are really low. Then if behaviour like the above can go on in pubs, why can't the clubs open ? No chance of the over 50s having a 1st jab by the back end of March. That would mean 4million jabs a week - double the best target. Nowhere have they claimed all over 50s vaccinated by then. Very little chance of pubs opening in March and even when they do it will obviously be with strict social distancing. The odd club with an alcohol license may open for socials only in a few months but as social distancing is going nowhere in 2021 maybe even 2022, clubs won't be able to open for play From today's Evening Standard; The government is planning to end lockdown in March after cabinet members agreed that waiting until the summer when most people will have been vaccinated would lead to yet more economic misery, according to reports. Ministers are drawing up a timetable to scale back restrictions despite the Sage Advisory committee calling for delays, it has been reported. Previously the cabinet has been split between those who want to open up the economy as quickly as possible and those who are more cautious and want to follow Sage advice to the letter. Under the plans areas will be put into lower tiers once their death rate has fallen and the number of 50-70 year olds being admitted to hospital has fallen, according to a report in the Sunday Times. Dominic Raab told BBC One’s The Andrew Marr Show on Sunday: “The aim is by the middle of February to have 88% of those most at risk of dying of coronavirus with their first jab, and by the early spring to have 99% – so that is the milestone if you like. “I think it is true to say that when we get to a situation in the early spring, perhaps March, if we succeed in hitting those targets – we have made good process so far – we can start to think about the phased transition out of the national lockdown. Please look up the relevant articles on-line, DO NOT take my word for it. Of course once restrictions are lifted, no one is forcing you to come out. " wasn't this, done to appease the backbenchers, who were threatening a leadership challenge | |||
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"Over a year, longest 3wks to flatten the curve ever. 64,000 died of flu in January 2018, more than whole 2020, nothing shutdown then " No they didn't, 22, 000 died of the flu over the 2017 18 winter season https://fullfact.org/online/october-2020-flu-covid-pandemic/ | |||
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"Can they make it april the 2nd its good friday and my birthday lol" they opened on the 4th July last year and it was my birthday. Was lovely to have a birthday drink lol | |||
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"I think the actual date of everything getting back to normal is April 1st " 2022 or 2023? | |||
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"Wonder how we will all feel when we do venture out again. Apprehensive, scared or not bothered. For us, think it will be a few club nights as social evenings slowly easing back into playing as and when we feel confident, however long that takes, no rush, just nice to be in close proximity to others again. Hopefully, not too long now." Clubs maybe never open again. | |||
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"Over a year, longest 3wks to flatten the curve ever. 64,000 died of flu in January 2018, more than whole 2020, nothing shutdown then No they didn't, 22, 000 died of the flu over the 2017 18 winter season https://fullfact.org/online/october-2020-flu-covid-pandemic/" 17000 is the yearly medium deaths figure for influenza and other respiratory disease. I don't know where this 640000 figure belongs to, total fantasy... | |||
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"I saw an interview with Prof of Meds at Oxford heading up their vaccine. It was his opinion that it would take until April until enough people had been vacinated for things to return to normal ie no masks no social distancing. But he certainly didnt give a specific day or date. He sounded as if he did know what he was talking about. So eering on caution Im working towards it being more like May when full contact establishments will be freely open. Still a hell of a long time." I dont think it will ever really be back to normal. Covid won't vanish from the planet and we have seen new strains now.... Life will become easier with the vaccine but likely to be some changes in attendance li. Its at venues, masks still for some time, potentially sudden stops on travelling outside /into the UK Dont forget its not it just us, ever other country will be monitoring the figures.. Yes we may have more testing which can in theory pick up the asymptomatic but it doesn't make a difference if the person still believes they can do wtf they want without a thought for anyone else. It will be a new world not the old one..... | |||
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"If it happens that is - according to sky news That’s actually made us kinda excited Xxx" anyone with sense will see this for what it is, MSM trying to steer / stir public opinion | |||
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"I saw an interview with Prof of Meds at Oxford heading up their vaccine. It was his opinion that it would take until April until enough people had been vacinated for things to return to normal ie no masks no social distancing. But he certainly didnt give a specific day or date. He sounded as if he did know what he was talking about. So eering on caution Im working towards it being more like May when full contact establishments will be freely open. Still a hell of a long time." Sorry to disappoint you but May 2022 is sounding optimistic | |||
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""The latest projections see the adult population vaccinated by September 2021". But this is only the first dose. " If the time between first and second doses remains the same at around 10 weeks, then they will be injecting second doses into people who have had a first dose at the same time as new people are getting first doses. So it's not a sequential thing, more like two jobs working in parallel. | |||
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"Let's not get our hopes (and dicks and clits) up too much. The likelihood is, best case scenario based on the limitation on production rate plus vaccination tiers plus resource available to administer the vaccinations.... September 2020 for 80% of the population - but masks will still be required in case of the asymptomatic. April 2021 for normality to start resuming." No chance ! Normality in 2021?! | |||
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"Let's not get our hopes (and dicks and clits) up too much. The likelihood is, best case scenario based on the limitation on production rate plus vaccination tiers plus resource available to administer the vaccinations.... September 2020 for 80% of the population - but masks will still be required in case of the asymptomatic. April 2021 for normality to start resuming." No chance ! Normality in 2021?! | |||
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"I saw an interview with Prof of Meds at Oxford heading up their vaccine. It was his opinion that it would take until April until enough people had been vacinated for things to return to normal ie no masks no social distancing. But he certainly didnt give a specific day or date. He sounded as if he did know what he was talking about. So eering on caution Im working towards it being more like May when full contact establishments will be freely open. Still a hell of a long time. I dont think it will ever really be back to normal. Covid won't vanish from the planet and we have seen new strains now.... Life will become easier with the vaccine but likely to be some changes in attendance li. Its at venues, masks still for some time, potentially sudden stops on travelling outside /into the UK Dont forget its not it just us, ever other country will be monitoring the figures.. Yes we may have more testing which can in theory pick up the asymptomatic but it doesn't make a difference if the person still believes they can do wtf they want without a thought for anyone else. It will be a new world not the old one..... " I agree entirely. There is no going back to pre covid times. Im not for one minute suggesting this was all planned but you can guarantee that coming out of this will see permanent restrictions and new laws . | |||
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"They need to stop getting people's hopes up with pie in the sky dates like this. They've been doing it since the first lockdown. No wonder frustration is so high when we are constantly given false hope." The behavioural scientists have told them to do it. On the basis that people can absorb short finite chunks. If last march they had said that we'd be in full lockdown until this summer, no one would have followed any rules. | |||
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"If it happens that is - according to sky news That’s actually made us kinda excited Xxx" Maybe 4th April will be the date when this current lockdown/all tier 4 restrictions will end. Unless people stop going in to hospital I can’t things changing quickly. | |||
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"Over a year, longest 3wks to flatten the curve ever. 64,000 died of flu in January 2018, more than whole 2020, nothing shutdown then Not like for like. If you look at the predicted models of deaths that would have occurred if we carried on as normal then the deaths in 2020 would have been huge, in the millions (although the model also suggests the virus would have burnt out by now). So surely the resultant lower numbers of death in 2020 show that these measures have worked to prevent many deaths? " That's just absolute rubbish. Reports on the flu are produced annually and are literally the first result that pops up if you Google flu deaths UK. According to the 17/18 report, between week 40 2017 (October) and week 15 2018 (April) there were 372 deaths in the whole of the UK. Covid is doing quadruple that on a daily basis. Honestly, I wish people wouldn't just believe what they read on Facebook. | |||
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"I think the only thing that we can definitely say about April this year is that the hours of daylight will be longer than now. Also possibly the weather may be milder " And more rain. | |||
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"It won't happen. We will have another year of lockdowns. " Looks that way | |||
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" I know it’s unlikely but a little hope isn’t a bad thing swingers " Absolutely! We are British and we must keep a stiff one (Upper lip I mean of course) | |||
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"LFT tests done say 45 mins before entry - surely that could work in time? But would you pay for them ? Just curious " Clubs in Poland were using fast tests effectively last year. There is a few problems to overcome with clubs in the UK using these tests, but this is probably one of the methods we could use to get ourselves open again, ahead of vaccinations. The main problem for us is logistics and public health. I can see our local public health wanting us to perform the tests rather than rely on customers doing their own tests before they arrive. The problem for us would be the practicality of testing 140 people who arrive en mass over 2 hours for a big party and testing everyone. Where do people go whilst being tested and where do they wait for their results? Public health will want us to have a policy in place to deal with large numbers arriving for testing. Also, who pays for the test? A lot of people are skint as are clubs, so the tests need to be affordable. Lastly, the tests need to be reliable and readily available in their tens of thousands. All of the clubs across the UK collectively will need thousands a week to cover all of their events. What happens if we encounter a shortage of tests? So far, the fast tests have had mixed results. Here in Liverpool, we are told to get a PCR test if we get a positive fast test as the reliability is still in question. I have said all along that fast testing is going to be one of the main factors in clubs opening again, but the logistics are a bit of a minefield and what we propose to do with the fest testing will have to be approved by our local public health | |||
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"That would be amazing, and sort of fits something I heard. The government asked train operating companies to reduce their number of services by 25-50% until the 27th March, so maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel (pun intended) " Heres hoping. I think it is more likely now that it is starting to look like the vaccine does help to limit spread but obviously only time will tell but like you said definitely like at the end of the tunnel. | |||
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"Ain't gonna happen.being drip fed hopes and promises,to keep the public subdued" Absolutely! | |||
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