FabSwingers.com forum: Pinching a lady's bottom in a club.....

By *orderboyblue OP Man
over a year ago

Scottish Borders

Hot or not???

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

It's classed as inappropriate touching and unless it was consented or you know the female and have an understanding, it could get you a warning or in some clubs a ban xx

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By *inkycreamCouple
over a year ago

manchester

"Hot or not??? "

The secret of your success

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By *eenawMan
over a year ago

anywhere and everywhere

If you did that to my FB I’d get you thrown out and banned!

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

OP have you ever tried pinching a gentleman's bottom ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Punching the person who did it in the face...

Hot or not ?

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By *lan157Man
over a year ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex

Are you advocating sexual assault in clubs OP ?

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By *irty filthy milfWoman
over a year ago

somewhere only i know!

It’s happened to me several times and on 1 occasion I shouted that loud on the corridor of the club that stopped all play! Needless to say I didn’t need to take the bloke to the bar someone else did and it ruined my night completely as everyone kept asking if I was ok, so the answer is NOT

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A friend of mine did this in a club and she turned around and smacked him in the nose. The swiftest justice! He never did it again! 2 wrongs don't make a right? I disagree.

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By *x2 4 funCouple
over a year ago

Southampton

You’d get a punch in the face from my other half and you would deserve it

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By *x2 4 funCouple
over a year ago

Southampton

Hot

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By *ud and BryanCouple
over a year ago

Boston, Lincolnshire

"You’d get a punch in the face from my other half and you would deserve it "

Same here!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Absolutely not.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Not. I'd clobber you

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

to reverse the question female manhandling a male in club without prior consent just a "giggle" or deserving off warning/ban ?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"to reverse the question female manhandling a male in club without prior consent just a "giggle" or deserving off warning/ban ? "

Warning/ban. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

"Hot or not??? "

No different to doing it in the street.

Not ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are we back in the 1970s , it’s a massive no ,why would you want to sexually touch a stranger,wrong

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Are we back in the 1970s , it’s a massive no ,why would you want to sexually touch a stranger,wrong "

Some guys do think that women in clubs are fair game.

Nope. It's as acceptable as it is in the street, and the vast majority of clubs will back up said woman to the hilt. Look, don't touch without asking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The owner of a club did this twice to my wife.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"to reverse the question female manhandling a male in club without prior consent just a "giggle" or deserving off warning/ban ? "

Inappropriate touching has no gender. It is what it is. Unfortunately, we find women can be pushy or overly tactile with other women, as if it's ok.

On the whole, we find guys to be very respectful, no real issues at all. It's women who have had a few wines that we've had more problems with!!!

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By *uncouple.1965Couple
over a year ago

Midlands

"Hot or not??? "

If someone pinched my wife's backside in a club, or anywhere else for that matter, they would be eating out of a straw for quite a while.

Let's face it, how on earth can we think an act of assault is 'hot or not??'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You’d get a punch in the face from my other half and you would deserve it "

I wouldnt wait for my other half

Ive been 'busy' in clubs and had guys touch ( not to mention other bizarre behaviour) without asking

They get kicked away. My feet are the only bits available, see?

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By *outhbucksCouple
over a year ago

Great Missenden

Touching without asking has only happened twice to us in a club

Both times it was a woman doing the touching!

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"Touching without asking has only happened twice to us in a club

Both times it was a woman doing the touching!"

Very good point, there's some very sexually aggressive bi ladies who assume that they don't need permission to touch another woman like they are exempt.

In either scenario it's wrong.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Any non consensual touching from any gender to any gender is wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So touching isn't ok but violence is.

Friendly Swingers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find my breaking of the fingers of whoever did it is generally a lasting deterrent.

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By *ink flamingoWoman
over a year ago

essex

"to reverse the question female manhandling a male in club without prior consent just a "giggle" or deserving off warning/ban ?

Inappropriate touching has no gender. It is what it is. Unfortunately, we find women can be pushy or overly tactile with other women, as if it's ok.

On the whole, we find guys to be very respectful, no real issues at all. It's women who have had a few wines that we've had more problems with!!!

This

Touching without consent is genderless and will get you a ban from us xx

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By *horley GirlWoman
over a year ago

Local-ish

I went solo to club once and I had a random guy think it was OK to grab my boob when I was chilling in jacuzzi once. He was told to back off and that it was not appropriate at all!! Just cos I'm naked in jacuzzi, doesn't mean want groping by a stranger

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By *inksAPlentyCouple
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

"I went solo to club once and I had a random guy think it was OK to grab my boob when I was chilling in jacuzzi once. He was told to back off and that it was not appropriate at all!! Just cos I'm naked in jacuzzi, doesn't mean want groping by a stranger

Why do people think this is OK? I had a guy try to finger me in the hot tub at a club...

Ms x

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

"So touching isn't ok but violence is.

Friendly Swingers. "

Maybe it’s not ok, but touching without consent is a form of violence. I’d absolutely, without hesitation, punch someone who groped me. I’ve spent far too much of my life putting up with it so as not to make a scene, and I won’t do so any longer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So touching isn't ok but violence is.

Friendly Swingers.

Same thing happened to me, I wonder how common that is

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By *riental_brit_studMan
over a year ago

London

An former colleague of mine met his future wife when he pinched her arse in a bar before he knew her. It worked out well for him under the circumstances. Though a risky and cheeky, literally, approach.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The person being hit would probably prefer it to the police being called and them going on the register. Anyway - they would have committed an assault in the first place so what would be the difference in applying section 3 Criminal Law Act (any person may use such force as they deem necessary in defence of them or another). Just because you’re in a swingers club doesn’t make groping without permission ok. So if somebody did it to Smoke and I was considered an “unfriendly swinger” because I’d twat them - well colour me bothered - because the safety of my partner means a LOT more to me than the opinion of strangers (in the words of Clint Eastwood - opinions are like assholes - everybody has one).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd punch him in the face.

You assault me, I will assault you. Fair is fair.

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By *edonistic Bi.Man
over a year ago

Ashton Under Lyne

Well... This went exactly as expected..

Its not the fucking 70's...

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"Well... This went exactly as expected..

Its not the fucking 70's...

Funny enough, I read the OP and Benny Hill sprang to mind!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I've not been pinched, but I have been groped. I removed said hand and said "that's not acceptable"

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

Most people know the rules in our place, so we don't get many issues and they certainly know not to touch me in anyway inappropriately. However, one evening, an over familiar female thought she could make a dick out of me being a pro Domme and gave me a proper hard crack on the ass as I went past the bar to deal with an issue at the front entrance.

It stopped me in my tracks and I just stood with my back to her. People around just stopped talking and stared. She instantly realised that she'd fucked up and went crimson. I carried on to deal with the issue at the front entrance and then came back to find her. She was walking towards the exit with her coat and bag and said, 'I take it that was a step too far?' I replied that she was walking in the right direction and would book her out. That was obviously the last time she enjoyed our venue. Shame really as she was stunning and popular; this however, was her downfall. She thought that she was invisible as an attarctive single female and I wouldn't possibly bar her. Her over confidence and showboating got the better of her.

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By *aucyPlayersCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

We attended a bi night at one of our local clubs. K was standing at the bar waiting to be served when the female organiser of the night out of nowhere just went and bit her hard on her bottom. K was very embarrassed and highly upset. There was bruising for well over a week. Needless to say we’ll never go to another party of theirs again. And anyone else who tried to inappropriately touch either one of us would now soon be told!

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"We attended a bi night at one of our local clubs. K was standing at the bar waiting to be served when the female organiser of the night out of nowhere just went and bit her hard on her bottom. K was very embarrassed and highly upset. There was bruising for well over a week. Needless to say we’ll never go to another party of theirs again. And anyone else who tried to inappropriately touch either one of us would now soon be told! "

Oh. My. Dear. GOD!!!! If she was one of our hosts, she would be sacked on the spot!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So touching isn't ok but violence is.

Friendly Swingers. "

Touching is an assault just the same as pinching someone’s bum if it’s not welcome.

The fact that the op has to Adi the question hot or not can only lead us to think he shouldn’t really be let loose around women

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton

There was a guy who kept on touching Jill's arse uninvited at a club one night and he really took exception when I touched his and asked if he liked it , he soon fucked off after I said to him you didn't like being touched so why touch someone else without asking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hot or not??? "

NOT! Life ban without permission and it is sexual assault if no consent.

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By *etsplay68Man
over a year ago

beaconsfield

"Hot or not??? "
its twats like you that give us blokes a bad name in clubs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hot or not??? "

You missed of assault from your options

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So touching isn't ok but violence is.

Friendly Swingers.

Touching is an assault just the same as pinching someone’s bum if it’s not welcome.

The fact that the op has to Adi the question hot or not can only lead us to think he shouldn’t really be let loose around women "

I agree with both your points.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

No, it's not hot if it hasn't been consented to OP. You may well risk being thrown out and/or banned from the club and maybe a slap from the recipient. It's guys with your attitude that can ruin people's experiences in clubs.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"Hot"
is a slap in the face hot and being thrown out or banned hot too then?

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"to reverse the question female manhandling a male in club without prior consent just a "giggle" or deserving off warning/ban ? "

Both sexes should be treated equally.

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

"So touching isn't ok but violence is.

Friendly Swingers. "

As someone who has experienced sexual assault in a club (as have most of my female friends) I would call it self-deffence.

The moment that one down-plays inappropriate touching, one makes sexual assault acceptable.

OP..sexual assault is never, ever 'hot'.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Hot or not??? "

I'm not even sure why you're asking.

Uninvited = sexual assault.

You'd get two punches if you did it to me. One from M, one from me.

So, that's a no from us.

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By *entlecaressMan
over a year ago

Wakefield/ Beverley

"Hot or not??? "

Not, its an assault unless the person has agreed to it.

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By *rsTrellisWoman
over a year ago

Cambridge

"So touching isn't ok but violence is.

Friendly Swingers.

As someone who has experienced sexual assault in a club (as have most of my female friends) I would call it self-deffence.

The moment that one down-plays inappropriate touching, one makes sexual assault acceptable.

OP..sexual assault is never, ever 'hot'. "

This!

I’ve also been seriously sexually assaulted, more than once, in a club. Don’t touch people without their consent. Use your words and ask. Consent is hot!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So touching isn't ok but violence is.

Friendly Swingers.

As someone who has experienced sexual assault in a club (as have most of my female friends) I would call it self-deffence.

The moment that one down-plays inappropriate touching, one makes sexual assault acceptable.

OP..sexual assault is never, ever 'hot'. "

Of course it isn't acceptable but neither is immediately punching someone in the face.

Make an example of them. Shout, speak loudly enough that everyone around can hear.

The person (it's not always men) will hopefully be shamed into either leaving or changing their ways. If they don't leave, enough people will know what they did that the person will surely not get any 'action' that night. And possibly get banned from the club.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sexual assault is not hot, it is not okay and it should not be tolerated in any way.

I am appalled that this is even a question, also appalled that some have indicated that sexual assault is acceptable.

What I do find uplifting is so many people calling it out, which includes organisers and club owners.

Is it okay to use necessary force to prevent a crime being committed? Without a doubt. If someone chooses to assault someone else then they need to be fully prepared for the repercussions that are likely to follow.

I do not condone violence but under the circumstances a slap to the face is fully expected and understandable.

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By *irty desireWoman
over a year ago

newcatle

It happened to my friend in a club and she just shout no touching.. obviously after we all looked at the said man he was mortified and left the club.. I would rather embarrass that person then hit them to be honest!!

Must admit although not a nice thing to do but we giggle about the shock on his face often

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By *ing_Wookie_RodeoMan
over a year ago

stockport wasteland

"to reverse the question female manhandling a male in club without prior consent just a "giggle" or deserving off warning/ban ? "
i believe this happening the other way round wouldnt get neither a ban or a warning let alone a smqck or a punch i call thisequality at its best. Even though i agree no one shpuld fondle or touch another person without some sort of flirting etc before hand

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By *irty desireWoman
over a year ago

newcatle

"to reverse the question female manhandling a male in club without prior consent just a "giggle" or deserving off warning/ban ? i believe this happening the other way round wouldnt get neither a ban or a warning let alone a smqck or a punch i call thisequality at its best. Even though i agree no one shpuld fondle or touch another person without some sort of flirting etc before hand"

Or maybe woman can just control the urge.. I would never do this in life not just in a club

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is not hot at all!! As a bit of a regular club goer...in the pre lockdown days...I feel like because you are at a club naked in a hot tub you are there to be touched, groped, whatever. That isnt how it should be. I'm actually getting fed up of that and being pulled around without consent. Last time I was in a hot tub I felt a hand on my leg by a complete stranger, I said no thanks politely but the hand went there again 1 minute later. I'd said no thanks!!

It's your attitude OP that gives guys a bad name in clubs, and on fab, although I do agree both sexes can be at fault. Its disrespectful and out of order.

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By *unloversCouple
over a year ago

rotherham

Never assume a woman wants her bum pinching

You taking a big risk with that one as you could get a black eye

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By *ing_Wookie_RodeoMan
over a year ago

stockport wasteland

"An former colleague of mine met his future wife when he pinched her arse in a bar before he knew her. It worked out well for him under the circumstances. Though a risky and cheeky, literally, approach."
thats the point dude loads of people use to pinch an ass to let them know ya fancied them, abit like wold whistling, a woman had a giy done in court for harrassment.

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By *rsTrellisWoman
over a year ago

Cambridge

When women are sexually assaulted, the most common responses are “freeze” and “appease” rather than “fight” or “flight”.

Your body and mind freeze as you process what’s happening to you. You live every millisecond as if it’s a minute as you try to figure out what to do as it’s happening and how to stop it without being hurt or humiliated.

In reality, saying “you should have kicked him in the balls” isn’t very helpful. Very few women respond that way when they’re assaulted. We tend to freeze and then try to diffuse the situation to get away safely.

Afterwards people will criticise you for how you responded (“you should have done this”) and you’ll criticise yourself (“why didn’t I scream?”) but freeze/appease is what MOST women do during a sexual assault.

For each woman on this thread who spoke out at the time (and well done for doing so), there are lots of us who froze (and well done to us too because we also got away from him successfully).

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"When women are sexually assaulted, the most common responses are “freeze” and “appease” rather than “fight” or “flight”.

For each woman on this thread who spoke out at the time (and well done for doing so), there are lots of us who froze (and well done to us too because we also got away from him successfully).

Agreed. In other situations I've frozen, and it's instinct, not wrong.

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By *rsTrellisWoman
over a year ago

Cambridge

"An former colleague of mine met his future wife when he pinched her arse in a bar before he knew her. It worked out well for him under the circumstances. Though a risky and cheeky, literally, approach. thats the point dude loads of people use to pinch an ass to let them know ya fancied them, abit like wold whistling, a woman had a giy done in court for harrassment. "

You should never sexually assault someone as a way of expressing that you fancy them. You should say “you’re really hot, I’d love to kiss you” or “May I touch you?” or “I’ve had a lovely evening. Can I kiss you goodnight?”

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By *uLou69Couple
over a year ago

Glos

Not hot for us I’m afraid. Happened to Lou on the stairs at Chams once. Had two attempts, first he was verbally warned second time chest poked back a couple of steps by her. To be fair it was our mistake so every time after she went up first with me behind her. Still waiting for someone to grab my ass

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"An former colleague of mine met his future wife when he pinched her arse in a bar before he knew her. It worked out well for him under the circumstances. Though a risky and cheeky, literally, approach. thats the point dude loads of people use to pinch an ass to let them know ya fancied them, abit like wold whistling, a woman had a giy done in court for harrassment.

Using words. Imagine that. Consent. Huh.

(Lord it's 2020 and we're still talking about this)

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

"So touching isn't ok but violence is.

Friendly Swingers.

As someone who has experienced sexual assault in a club (as have most of my female friends) I would call it self-deffence.

The moment that one down-plays inappropriate touching, one makes sexual assault acceptable.

OP..sexual assault is never, ever 'hot'.

Of course it isn't acceptable but neither is immediately punching someone in the face.

Make an example of them. Shout, speak loudly enough that everyone around can hear.

Unfortunately, the perpetrator (commonly men) who think it acceptable to sexually assault a woman are unlikely to feel the shame you speak of, and are likely to continue to prowl around said club, unless they are evicted.

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

"An former colleague of mine met his future wife when he pinched her arse in a bar before he knew her. It worked out well for him under the circumstances. Though a risky and cheeky, literally, approach. thats the point dude loads of people use to pinch an ass to let them know ya fancied them, abit like wold whistling, a woman had a giy done in court for harrassment.

Using words. Imagine that. Consent. Huh.

(Lord it's 2020 and we're still talking about this)"

Shocking, huh?...

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So touching isn't ok but violence is.

Friendly Swingers.

As someone who has experienced sexual assault in a club (as have most of my female friends) I would call it self-deffence.

The moment that one down-plays inappropriate touching, one makes sexual assault acceptable.

OP..sexual assault is never, ever 'hot'.

Of course it isn't acceptable but neither is immediately punching someone in the face.

Make an example of them. Shout, speak loudly enough that everyone around can hear.

Yes, there's a certain subset who are quite vocal in their entitlement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So touching isn't ok but violence is.

Friendly Swingers.

As someone who has experienced sexual assault in a club (as have most of my female friends) I would call it self-deffence.

The moment that one down-plays inappropriate touching, one makes sexual assault acceptable.

OP..sexual assault is never, ever 'hot'.

Of course it isn't acceptable but neither is immediately punching someone in the face.

Make an example of them. Shout, speak loudly enough that everyone around can hear.

I think it's actually about even 50/50 men and women who do it. People just don't like to say anything if it's a woman doing it.

Fair point about the types who don't feel shame. Even if evicted they would do it again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not hot for us I’m afraid. Happened to Lou on the stairs at Chams once. Had two attempts, first he was verbally warned second time chest poked back a couple of steps by her. To be fair it was our mistake so every time after she went up first with me behind her. Still waiting for someone to grab my ass

Why was it your mistake?

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There

Definitely not. I don’t want anyone helping themselves to any part of me in a club. I think some folk think that just because you’re in a club you’re there for a free for all and anyone can grab any bits of you that they like. That’s not the case. If someone pinched my bum who I didn’t know they’d get a swift poke in the eye.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If your testing the water op don’t do it it will get you into a world of trouble

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By *ensual 2Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool

"This is not hot at all!! As a bit of a regular club goer...in the pre lockdown days...I feel like because you are at a club naked in a hot tub you are there to be touched, groped, whatever. That isnt how it should be. I'm actually getting fed up of that and being pulled around without consent. Last time I was in a hot tub I felt a hand on my leg by a complete stranger, I said no thanks politely but the hand went there again 1 minute later. I'd said no thanks!!

It's your attitude OP that gives guys a bad name in clubs, and on fab, although I do agree both sexes can be at fault. Its disrespectful and out of order. "
Women rule ...always

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By *uncouple.1965Couple
over a year ago

Midlands

"So touching isn't ok but violence is.

Friendly Swingers. "

It's cause and consequence.

The touching/assault resulted in retaliation.

Why should anyone be friendly to someone who has assaulted them or their partner.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Not.

I have had my cock grabbed hard and yanked about like it owed someone money without permission. So much so it made it sore.

My partner had her fair share of creeps randomly trying to touch her or interrupting scenes.

One guy I caught doing a drive by grope of her arse and I managed to grab his hand and hold it firmly but tenderly while staring lovingly into his eyes while my gf was sucking me off. It got very awkward for him and off he scuttled when I let go.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It's your attitude OP that gives guys a bad name in clubs, and on fab, although I do agree both sexes can be at fault. Its disrespectful and out of order. Women rule ...always

And some take the piss and they shouldn't

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By *n With LifeCouple
over a year ago

Hadley Wood

It's your attitude OP that gives guys a bad name in clubs, and on fab, although I do agree both sexes can be at fault. Its disrespectful and out of order. "

And single men wonder why they get a bad name!

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

Well OP wanted a response and got it..

Firstly, a confession - I (Chris) accidentally touched someone who I genuinely thought was Julia standing next to me, and it wasn’t. I was distracted by wine and chat and wasn’t focused. Lots of apologies accepted but I still cringe about it

Secondly, _ased on a lot of club visits, I would say women do it even more than men.

Thirdly, speaking for myself ONLY, I normally do like being randomly groped by women including complete strangers.

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By *achel SmythTV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough

This does perhaps seem a little one sided!!

I was in a club and had my bum felt you someone behind me. I knocked the hand away as I turned round .... and realised it was a woman, and politely shook my head!

She gave me such a look of disgust and flounced off ... clearly I was the one in the wrong - so she thought!

R xx

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By *uliette500Woman
over a year ago

Hull

I've never been to a club but had a guy pinch me in a supermarket que a few years ago. I grabbed his hand held it up and said does this belong to anyone I found it on my backside.

His wife behind him was not impressed and he was definitely embarrassed. Don't think he'll do it again in a hurry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well OP wanted a response and got it..

Secondly, _ased on a lot of club visits, I would say women do it even more than men.

Thirdly, speaking for myself ONLY, I normally do like being randomly groped by women including complete strangers. "

Imagine if you'd got punched for touching them.

Hence my opinion about violence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This does perhaps seem a little one sided!!

I was in a club and had my bum felt you someone behind me. I knocked the hand away as I turned round .... and realised it was a woman, and politely shook my head!

She gave me such a look of disgust and flounced off ... clearly I was the one in the wrong - so she thought!

R xx"

Yeah I hate the attitude that women are always right.

'It's ok for women to sexually assault people'. No. It isn't.

Consent is required from both men and women (etc).

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"Hot or not??? "

It's sexual assault. You should be ejected, barred, arrested, charged, imprisoned and put on a register for life.

Unfortunately both our society and our justice system are completely broken.

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By *astMidsCouple555Couple
over a year ago

Leicester

"Hot or not???

It's sexual assault. You should be ejected, barred, arrested, charged, imprisoned and put on a register for life.

Unfortunately both our society and our justice system are completely broken. "

What about a burning at the stake?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very thin ice. You could get yourself arrested for sexual touching and a criminal record. It's just not worth it. And that goes both ways.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Do people really still think this way?.

Reminiscent of the old carry on movies from the last century..let it stay there or is the op just winding us up?

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By *anty TwoCouple
over a year ago

Near Ash Surrey & South Essex

Not hot at all

Is this really a serious question

Consent is key and inappropriate touching is not on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think that sorted that out .....lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lots of keyboard warriors on here I see

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

"Most people know the rules in our place, so we don't get many issues and they certainly know not to touch me in anyway inappropriately. However, one evening, an over familiar female thought she could make a dick out of me being a pro Domme and gave me a proper hard crack on the ass as I went past the bar to deal with an issue at the front entrance.

I (Chris) find that a bit sad tbh. You do get some, er, sexually aggressive women in clubs, some of them I think really are just trying to get a party going.

What she did was wrong, but she knew it and was mortified by it. Doesn’t seem like she’d do it again. Think a bit of forgiveness might have been in order, but I wasn’t there.

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch

I (Chris) find that a bit sad tbh. You do get some, er, sexually aggressive women in clubs, some of them I think really are just trying to get a party going.

What she did was wrong, but she knew it and was mortified by it. Doesn’t seem like she’d do it again. Think a bit of forgiveness might have been in order, but I wasn’t there."

But is that letting her off assaulting another person simply by virtue of her gender?

By the same logic, any man with wandering hands should be equally forgiven

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By *nnie2009Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool

"Punching the person who did it in the face...

Hot or not ?"
hot

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I (Chris) find that a bit sad tbh. You do get some, er, sexually aggressive women in clubs, some of them I think really are just trying to get a party going.

What she did was wrong, but she knew it and was mortified by it. Doesn’t seem like she’d do it again. Think a bit of forgiveness might have been in order, but I wasn’t there.

But is that letting her off assaulting another person simply by virtue of her gender?

By the same logic, any man with wandering hands should be equally forgiven"

No double standards.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

I (Chris) find that a bit sad tbh. You do get some, er, sexually aggressive women in clubs, some of them I think really are just trying to get a party going.

What she did was wrong, but she knew it and was mortified by it. Doesn’t seem like she’d do it again. Think a bit of forgiveness might have been in order, but I wasn’t there.

But is that letting her off assaulting another person simply by virtue of her gender?

By the same logic, any man with wandering hands should be equally forgiven

No double standards. "

Absolutely not! Man or woman, you Absolutely do not whack someone on the ass, especially when they are working and not even taking part in the party!!!! If someone smacked you on the ass in work, I'm sure you would be equally shocked xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lots of keyboard warriors on here I see "

More than happy to accommodate anyone face to face although I can thing of so many better ways of spending my time

And isn’t your comment actually making you the type of person you appear to be decrying ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hot or not??? "

There are a few ladies who's bottoms I pinch in the club. But I know them and their partners! I would never even consider pinching a strangers bum, no matter how sexy it was. That's just asking for trouble!

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

I (Chris) find that a bit sad tbh. You do get some, er, sexually aggressive women in clubs, some of them I think really are just trying to get a party going.

What she did was wrong, but she knew it and was mortified by it. Doesn’t seem like she’d do it again. Think a bit of forgiveness might have been in order, but I wasn’t there.

But is that letting her off assaulting another person simply by virtue of her gender?

By the same logic, any man with wandering hands should be equally forgiven

No double standards.

I’m just saying, due to power dynamics, motives, and physical strength, can’t see that it can be comparable to a 6ft bloke with a beard doing that to a 5ft lady.

Again, I agree it was wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unless invited, no different to pinching a ladies bottom in Tesco. You'd expect that to result in a slap, security detaining you and the police being called. There are plenty of men who'd love their GF or wife to get her bum pinched, and plenty more, but just because swinging doesn't excuse you from needing some form of prior permission.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

I (Chris) find that a bit sad tbh. You do get some, er, sexually aggressive women in clubs, some of them I think really are just trying to get a party going.

What she did was wrong, but she knew it and was mortified by it. Doesn’t seem like she’d do it again. Think a bit of forgiveness might have been in order, but I wasn’t there.

But is that letting her off assaulting another person simply by virtue of her gender?

By the same logic, any man with wandering hands should be equally forgiven

No double standards.

I’m just saying, due to power dynamics, motives, and physical strength, can’t see that it can be comparable to a 6ft bloke with a beard doing that to a 5ft lady.

Again, I agree it was wrong. "

I totally disagree but hey that's what these forums are all about! Expressing opinions, listening to views and learning about how we all tick

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By *aseMan
over a year ago

Gourock

Sexual assault that's called

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By *uncouple.1965Couple
over a year ago

Midlands

"Lots of keyboard warriors on here I see "

No keyboard warrior here.

Would welcome this discussion face to face with anyone who wanted to put forward their points of view.

It would make an interesting debate for sure!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When women are sexually assaulted, the most common responses are “freeze” and “appease” rather than “fight” or “flight”.

For each woman on this thread who spoke out at the time (and well done for doing so), there are lots of us who froze (and well done to us too because we also got away from him successfully).

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Lots of keyboard warriors on here I see

No keyboard warrior here.

Would welcome this discussion face to face with anyone who wanted to put forward their points of view.

It would make an interesting debate for sure!"

No keyboard warrior. Assault is wrong. Don't do it. Don't tolerate it.

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By *pices69Couple
over a year ago

Gravesend

Have to say, i prefer swinging clubs and parties due to this sort of thing which is a sexual assault irrespective of gender, is well recognised and as such rare, those who don’t, quickly educated.

It makes me cringe a bit at the OP asking if sexual assault is ok in a club.

Thankfully non swinging clubs have also begun to help identify and stop this.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

I cannot believe there are people excusing what is physical/sexual assault either because of gender or because of the context of a swinger's club. You only touch other people with consent, gender, physical size/power/height is totally irrelevant and the law backs that up. If any gender touched me or Mr KC without consent, they'd be getting short shrift and I cannot say I wouldn't lash out as a self defense mechanism. I feel more vulnerable as a person with limited mobility - I can't run away, so if I clobber the assailant, then that's me feeling like I need to defend myself with reasonable force.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I cannot believe there are people excusing what is physical/sexual assault either because of gender or because of the context of a swinger's club. You only touch other people with consent, gender, physical size/power/height is totally irrelevant and the law backs that up. If any gender touched me or Mr KC without consent, they'd be getting short shrift and I cannot say I wouldn't lash out as a self defense mechanism. I feel more vulnerable as a person with limited mobility - I can't run away, so if I clobber the assailant, then that's me feeling like I need to defend myself with reasonable force."

I was told when I first started going, that a touch on the arm or hand may be appropriate to get attention and as a way to solicit consent for further touching. That's as "touching without consent" as I go.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

There's a whole lot of difference to a tap on the arm vs bottom pinching/slapping. If I'm using my wheelchair (which I have in a club), I'm too low down anyway. My face is at crotch height

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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago

West Kent (near Tonbridge)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In what world ever is pinching someone's bum anywhere hot?

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Lots of keyboard warriors on here I see "

I’m curious as to why you think that. Do you think the people saying they’d punch someone who sexually assaulted them are only saying it because we’re safe behind our keyboards? I’m pretty sure that’s not the case! Or maybe you’re trying to defend sexual assault, but doing it in a sideways manner by attacking the people speaking out against it?

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By *d4fun73Man
over a year ago

Shipley

It's the 21st century OP! Can't believe we're still having this conversation tbh. I notice the op has not committed since? Probably crawled back into his 1970s shell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lots of keyboard warriors on here I see "

Not here. The last bloke that put a hand on me without my consent was met with a smile then a quiet conversation in his ear that left him in no doubt that his behaviour was unwelcome and beyond inappropriate.

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By *irty desireWoman
over a year ago

newcatle

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By *irty desireWoman
over a year ago

newcatle

"Lots of keyboard warriors on here I see "

Yes we see you!! Oh no we can’t as your hiding behind your hidden profile

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By * and BCouple
over a year ago

Durham

It's simple, YOU DON'T TOUCH UNLESS INVITED

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By *etro1940sCouple
over a year ago

Kingston upon Thames

I was told that too, although I've never done that using verbal communication instead. Just curious, is it still considered an appropriate way to gain consent to go further or is it considered out of date now?"
Good manners and common sense suggest that this is the right approach - unless some verbal or clear clue is given, don't assume consent to any touching ... best to be horny and polite versus arrogant and disappointed. A nice enquiry will often bring some positive response. x to all would be playmates.

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By *irty desireWoman
over a year ago

newcatle

Never acceptable..ever!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"to reverse the question female manhandling a male in club without prior consent just a "giggle" or deserving off warning/ban ?

Both sexes should be treated equally. "

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By *unguy0069Man
over a year ago

Reigate

"Hot or not??? "

What's wrong with you?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this really up for debate in this day and age? Some men (and a few women) have so much entitlement. I swear some think that just by being here or in a club you are "up for it" and fair game.

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By *ent in BlackMan
over a year ago

Silsden

"Hot or not??? "

Inappropriate and unwanted sexual attention. Expect a slap in the face and ejection from the club.

Always ask before touching, unless invited.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sexual assault hot or not? More than likely get a smack in the mouth of mr s.

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

"Hot or not??? "

It's not the done thing chap and I don't think it's ever been hot.

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