Join us FREE, we're FREE to use
Web's largest swingers site since 2006.
Already registered?
Login here
Join us FREE, we're FREE to use
Web's largest swingers site since 2006.
Already registered?
Login here
 | Back to forum list |
| Back to Swinging Club Discussion |
| Jump to newest |  |
xx | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
xx | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I think so long as a club can be flexible with the booking dates and act in good faith, many people would (when financially possible) book an overnight stay away for a date to be determined in 2021. Like we said it may only be a sticking plaster solution but surely something can be worked on.
xx"We think your heart is in the right place but to many pitfalls for it to work. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
 I k ow many men that can easily adhere to that rule ?? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Before 2nd of November we were all back in gyms, on the underground and back in the office. Covid is an airborne disease and not an STD so if I am having sex with someone or standing next to them on a train then am I more / less / as likely to catch Covid ? I feel for clubs and I feel for the population and with the government waxing lyrical about purchasing 5million vaccines in a country with a population of 69million we are not going to be clear for a long time yet... At what point do we swallow hard and tell the Uk to crack on and just isolate the vulnerable (over 60 and underlying). Maybe a club rule of no more than 15 mins inside another person I k ow many men that can easily adhere to that rule ?? "This is all well and good and not what the OP was asking, but the fact remains, that by law, we are not allowed to open for swinging parties for a very long time and clubs have no income with no end in sight | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Before 2nd of November we were all back in gyms, on the underground and back in the office. Covid is an airborne disease and not an STD so if I am having sex with someone or standing next to them on a train then am I more / less / as likely to catch Covid ? I feel for clubs and I feel for the population and with the government waxing lyrical about purchasing 5million vaccines in a country with a population of 69million we are not going to be clear for a long time yet... At what point do we swallow hard and tell the Uk to crack on and just isolate the vulnerable (over 60 and underlying). Maybe a club rule of no more than 15 mins inside another person I k ow many men that can easily adhere to that rule ??
This is all well and good and not what the OP was asking, but the fact remains, that by law, we are not allowed to open for swinging parties for a very long time and clubs have no income with no end in sight"Are you able to claim any grants? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Before 2nd of November we were all back in gyms, on the underground and back in the office. Covid is an airborne disease and not an STD so if I am having sex with someone or standing next to them on a train then am I more / less / as likely to catch Covid ? I feel for clubs and I feel for the population and with the government waxing lyrical about purchasing 5million vaccines in a country with a population of 69million we are not going to be clear for a long time yet... At what point do we swallow hard and tell the Uk to crack on and just isolate the vulnerable (over 60 and underlying). Maybe a club rule of no more than 15 mins inside another person I k ow many men that can easily adhere to that rule ??
This is all well and good and not what the OP was asking, but the fact remains, that by law, we are not allowed to open for swinging parties for a very long time and clubs have no income with no end in sight
Are you able to claim any grants?"Clubs/night clubs haven't been eligible for most grants. We weren't eligible for the Local lockdown grant as you had to be fully operational until we went into Tier3 and forced to shut. We haven't been fully operational since March. There were other caveats too. We ARE entitled to some grant money from the November lockdown but if we come out of it in December, that will stop. So one month worth of help. All clubs are in the same boat and the councils are doing everything they can to not pay out. Don't get me started!!! hahaha xx | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Before 2nd of November we were all back in gyms, on the underground and back in the office. Covid is an airborne disease and not an STD so if I am having sex with someone or standing next to them on a train then am I more / less / as likely to catch Covid ? I feel for clubs and I feel for the population and with the government waxing lyrical about purchasing 5million vaccines in a country with a population of 69million we are not going to be clear for a long time yet... At what point do we swallow hard and tell the Uk to crack on and just isolate the vulnerable (over 60 and underlying). Maybe a club rule of no more than 15 mins inside another person I k ow many men that can easily adhere to that rule ??
This is all well and good and not what the OP was asking, but the fact remains, that by law, we are not allowed to open for swinging parties for a very long time and clubs have no income with no end in sight
Are you able to claim any grants?
Clubs/night clubs haven't been eligible for most grants. We weren't eligible for the Local lockdown grant as you had to be fully operational until we went into Tier3 and forced to shut. We haven't been fully operational since March. There were other caveats too. We ARE entitled to some grant money from the November lockdown but if we come out of it in December, that will stop. So one month worth of help. All clubs are in the same boat and the councils are doing everything they can to not pay out. Don't get me started!!! hahaha xx"What about this https://www.gov.uk/guidance/check-if-your-nightclub-dance-hall-or-adult-entertainment-business-is-eligible-for-a-coronavirus-grant-due-to-national-restrictions | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Before 2nd of November we were all back in gyms, on the underground and back in the office. Covid is an airborne disease and not an STD so if I am having sex with someone or standing next to them on a train then am I more / less / as likely to catch Covid ? I feel for clubs and I feel for the population and with the government waxing lyrical about purchasing 5million vaccines in a country with a population of 69million we are not going to be clear for a long time yet... At what point do we swallow hard and tell the Uk to crack on and just isolate the vulnerable (over 60 and underlying). Maybe a club rule of no more than 15 mins inside another person I k ow many men that can easily adhere to that rule ??
This is all well and good and not what the OP was asking, but the fact remains, that by law, we are not allowed to open for swinging parties for a very long time and clubs have no income with no end in sight
Are you able to claim any grants?
Clubs/night clubs haven't been eligible for most grants. We weren't eligible for the Local lockdown grant as you had to be fully operational until we went into Tier3 and forced to shut. We haven't been fully operational since March. There were other caveats too. We ARE entitled to some grant money from the November lockdown but if we come out of it in December, that will stop. So one month worth of help. All clubs are in the same boat and the councils are doing everything they can to not pay out. Don't get me started!!! hahaha xx
What about this
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/check-if-your-nightclub-dance-hall-or-adult-entertainment-business-is-eligible-for-a-coronavirus-grant-due-to-national-restrictions"Yes, this is what we're fighting for now and they may take it off us once lockdown is lifted in December if we open for private hires, which is a minimal income, but then so is the grant. It's a kick in the teeth as it's not backdated, it's only from this lockdown, even though a lot of clubs have been closed since March. Also for some clubs who have paid staff on Furlough, this won't even cover any shortfall in wages top ups for staff. The grant won't even cover basic overheads, hence why a lot of us are continuing our fundraising efforts | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Before 2nd of November we were all back in gyms, on the underground and back in the office. Covid is an airborne disease and not an STD so if I am having sex with someone or standing next to them on a train then am I more / less / as likely to catch Covid ? I feel for clubs and I feel for the population and with the government waxing lyrical about purchasing 5million vaccines in a country with a population of 69million we are not going to be clear for a long time yet... At what point do we swallow hard and tell the Uk to crack on and just isolate the vulnerable (over 60 and underlying). Maybe a club rule of no more than 15 mins inside another person I k ow many men that can easily adhere to that rule ??
This is all well and good and not what the OP was asking, but the fact remains, that by law, we are not allowed to open for swinging parties for a very long time and clubs have no income with no end in sight
Are you able to claim any grants?
Clubs/night clubs haven't been eligible for most grants. We weren't eligible for the Local lockdown grant as you had to be fully operational until we went into Tier3 and forced to shut. We haven't been fully operational since March. There were other caveats too. We ARE entitled to some grant money from the November lockdown but if we come out of it in December, that will stop. So one month worth of help. All clubs are in the same boat and the councils are doing everything they can to not pay out. Don't get me started!!! hahaha xx
What about this
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/check-if-your-nightclub-dance-hall-or-adult-entertainment-business-is-eligible-for-a-coronavirus-grant-due-to-national-restrictions
Yes, this is what we're fighting for now and they may take it off us once lockdown is lifted in December if we open for private hires, which is a minimal income, but then so is the grant. It's a kick in the teeth as it's not backdated, it's only from this lockdown, even though a lot of clubs have been closed since March. Also for some clubs who have paid staff on Furlough, this won't even cover any shortfall in wages top ups for staff. The grant won't even cover basic overheads, hence why a lot of us are continuing our fundraising efforts "Saying all of this, if we get it, which would be around £1300 for the month, we would be grateful as it's better than nothing | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" The problem is (in our humble opinion) is that the club scene is so niche that it’s hard to diversify ." I don’t agree , I’ve worked with businesses over the last 30 years and you can always diversify and/or grow if you really want to, a reality in business is demand is always elastic. The problem is actually many SME and micro business owners dont actually want to grow, they dint want the problems that creating jobs brings , and that’s fair enough. Growth in SME is very painful , requires different skills , but another reality is businesses don’t survive If they are static - like a houseplant , they’re either growing or dying | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" The problem is (in our humble opinion) is that the club scene is so niche that it’s hard to diversify . I don’t agree , I’ve worked with businesses over the last 30 years and you can always diversify and/or grow if you really want to, a reality in business is demand is always elastic. The problem is actually many SME and micro business owners dont actually want to grow, they dint want the problems that creating jobs brings , and that’s fair enough. Growth in SME is very painful , requires different skills , but another reality is businesses don’t survive If they are static - like a houseplant , they’re either growing or dying " And, new clubs will spring up over time to replace those that have gone out of business. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" The problem is (in our humble opinion) is that the club scene is so niche that it’s hard to diversify . I don’t agree , I’ve worked with businesses over the last 30 years and you can always diversify and/or grow if you really want to, a reality in business is demand is always elastic. The problem is actually many SME and micro business owners dont actually want to grow, they dint want the problems that creating jobs brings , and that’s fair enough. Growth in SME is very painful , requires different skills , but another reality is businesses don’t survive If they are static - like a houseplant , they’re either growing or dying " I agree that out of every negative, a positive can be found. Having spoken to many club owners, there are a couple of things holding them back from diversifying and doing sonething else with their building. The main stumbling block is money. Most clubs now have empty coffers and to change the building into something else will take money. Even small changes will cost and for some, they are literally fighting each month just to find the money to pay bills. For example, a club considered changing into a b & b/hotel but when the fire safety guys came in, to get approval as such, they would need an external and internal fire escape stairwell. This costs a fortune and was a bridge too far. The other stumbling block is that some councils are not handing out new licences only maintaining old licences at the moment. So if a club wanted to change to a bar or restaurant and didn't previously have a premises licence or other associated licences, they couldn't do it. Some buildings are in remote areas, on industrial estates or in areas where there is little passing trade. So this would be a barrier to some business ideas. So, I agree that solutions can be found but for some, the barriers are just too high to overcome. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| Post new Message to Thread |
| back to top |  |
