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By *ust us 2 OP Couple
over a year ago

leicester

Contacted this club to ask if it was wheelchair friendly. Curt reply received was "No it isn't" with no further explanation or questions asked i.e size of wheelchair. As we were in the area today we walked past the club and hubby went in and saw there was accessibility for a wheelchair so spoke to both of the owners and said he was just checking to see if it was possible for a wheelchair user to be a member. Owner said "this is a private members club" Hubby said he knew but was just checking before joining. Owner was very abrupt and seemed lost for words and asked if I could get out of the chair to which hubby replied "No" Hubby got the impression he was trying to put us off. He didn't ask how big the wheelchair was, he didn't advise of doorway widths, he merely stated that the doorways were going to be too narrow. After 20 years together hubby says this was his worst experience of someone giving the impression they didnt want a wheelchair person in their premises. We have been to Libertys in the past who made us feel most welcome and even provided a ramp at the entrance. It feels like to me that some people think that disabled people cant enjoy the same experiences as able bodied. Altogether a most humiliating and embarrassing experience for both of us.

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By *ustonce1Man
over a year ago

Leicester

your NOT missing believe me !!!!

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By *ust us 2 OP Couple
over a year ago

leicester

Well Justonce1 I will never know !!

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

When Quest opens again you will be warmly welcomed. It was designed to be wheel chair user friendly

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By *he Naughty PineappleCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

Actually we did start answering and he went before we could finish!

I asked him if at any time the person in the chair could walk as there are some doors/gang ways a wheel chair might not fit, I couldn't offer to help as I have had quite bad sciatica for almost a year.

If he had not been in a rush to go (he said they was just passing by) I would of asked them to come on Wednesday when we will have more people that could of helped.

We have had people here in a wheel chair before and managed fine and they enjoyed there time here.

And just so you know, we knew what size the wheelchair was as we have a camera on the street and could clearly see it.

King regards,

Shaz n Tony x

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By *ust us 2 OP Couple
over a year ago

leicester

I was not in a rush to go, I left because of your attitude, apathy and indifference to the questions I was asking on such a sensitive matter.

I wasn’t asking for any help to get the wheelchair in, but I wasn’t even offered the chance to actually try the chair through the door myself or at the very least measure the doorway. I think a 5 second scan of a CCTV screen of a wheelchair couldn’t possible give you the actual dimensions that you would require to make that decision. Perhaps to even have come and spoken to my wife would have shown that you had an interest and understanding of the situation

So when I first contacted you online and asked if you could accommodate a wheelchair you messaged back “No” Why would you do that if in fact you now state in your message to this post that you have “Had people in wheelchairs before and managed fine and enjoyed their time here”?

What Surely you could have asked more questions before you gave the straight “No”

Noone made a suggestion of coming back on Wednesday despite me attempting to be in conversation with your for a quite a few minutes. I suggest this was an afterthought on your part.

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By *ocoa89Man
over a year ago

Camberwell

"I was not in a rush to go, I left because of your attitude, apathy and indifference to the questions I was asking on such a sensitive matter.

What Surely you could have asked more questions before you gave the straight “No”

Noone made a suggestion of coming back on Wednesday despite me attempting to be in conversation with your for a quite a few minutes. I suggest this was an afterthought on your part.

My man came ready.

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By *he Naughty PineappleCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

On your first post you wrote...

"no further explanation or questions asked"

Yet (as your post even says) I asked if she could get out of the chair and you replied no so I answered the door ways would be to narrow to get the chair through then as I could see clearly on camera you have a normal sized wheelchair (around 25" wide).

I asked if she could get out the chair as we didn't have nobody to help her while we collapsed it to get it through the door then open it again.

Yes we have had someone many times in a wheelchair but was quite a bit narrower than yours.

We have people come at the moment on a weekly basis and we are only to glad to help with their mobility, everyone is welcome at our club no matter there gender, race or mobility.

Anyway, This is all I will say on this now as I feel I have said my piece and have nothing else to add.

Shaz n Tony,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The owners of the club are the are fantastic people the club itself welcomes all whatever gender or race your story comes over as bulshit there are people that use the club with disabilities I seem to recall seeing the male in there before causing issues long live amegos

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it legal to sue a private club in the UK , for not having handicap accessibility?

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"Is it legal to sue a private club in the UK , for not having handicap accessibility? "

Although there is no legal requirement for a private members club to offer accessibility for all, most clubs will try and adapt as best as possible or at least allow the individual to assess the accessibility for themselves. So no, private members clubs cannot be sued in the UK xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it legal to sue a private club in the UK , for not having handicap accessibility?

Thank you ...... I know it seems like a odd question....

But in the USA you can sue for anything.....

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Is it legal to sue a private club in the UK , for not having handicap accessibility?

Thank you ...... I know it seems like a odd question....

But in the USA you can sue for anything....."

Yup, private members clubs are not bound by the Equalities Act for patrons (they are as employers of staff). It's why those gents clubs in London and golf clubs can exclude women

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By *aughtycomfortCouple
over a year ago

nottingham

In our experience you could not meet nicer friendly owners. I know the are shut for two days to do a deep clean.

If you were to revisit when open you will find the owners like us perfect..

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land

Whilst discussions around accessibility to clubs really can be a positive thing, this thread feels much more like a personal issue.

Personal issues have no place in the forums so I'm going to close this now.

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