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"I’d love to see a list of clubs, when they’re opening, for what/who (and not). If you have info please post here "Nothings opening any time sooner | |||
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"I’ve seen townhouse say 4th July but for private hires, no events" This is still to be announced as I'm waiting for the fine detail to be released. However, if we can hire to a couple who want to use the whole club for themselves, then we will. I'm still putting together the fine detail on health and safety and we will only allow this kind of hire if it's deemed safe and within guidelines. We've had from Public Health but I still want to be sure we are legal and safe to do this.
I will publicly announce if we are doing this and when.
What I CAN confirm is that we WILL NOT be opening as a bar for socials only as we cannot socially distance and get enough bums on seats to be financially viable in our venue. We will only be opening for parties when social distancing is dropped altogether
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"Le Boudoir is opening 4th July "I doubt they can | |||
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"I’d love to see a list of clubs, when they’re opening, for what/who (and not). If you have info please post here "Hopefully Fab will be on the ball once an official announcement has been made by the Government and everyone will be able to go to the Reviews section to check the list of Clubs. | |||
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"Asylum open for hire for couples and bubbles Looking to host Social events as well" | |||
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"I’ve seen townhouse say 4th July but for private hires, no events This is still to be announced as I'm waiting for the fine detail to be released. However, if we can hire to a couple who want to use the whole club for themselves, then we will. I'm still putting together the fine detail on health and safety and we will only allow this kind of hire if it's deemed safe and within guidelines. We've had from Public Health but I still want to be sure we are legal and safe to do this.
I will publicly announce if we are doing this and when.
What I CAN confirm is that we WILL NOT be opening as a bar for socials only as we cannot socially distance and get enough bums on seats to be financially viable in our venue. We will only be opening for parties when social distancing is dropped altogether
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"Any news on VA?" Not at the moment but the staff team are all ready to go when we get the OK. | |||
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"Le Boudoir is opening 4th July
I doubt they can"Well they are and opening night is already sold out | |||
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"Le Boudoir is opening 4th July
I doubt they can
Well they are and opening night is already sold out "Then they are breaking the law and risk losing their licence. | |||
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"Club Play (previously Club SX) in Blackpool will be staying closed until it is deemed safe for us to open and social distancing is no longer in place "Thats what most clubs are doing as they value the safety of their customers. | |||
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"Le Boudoir is opening 4th July
I doubt they can
Well they are and opening night is already sold out Then they are breaking the law and risk losing their licence."They could be sold out & have a total of 6 people & manage social distancing however I doubt it. | |||
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"At a guess... I'd say next May! "If anything that sounds optimistic! | |||
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"However, nightclubs, gyms and spas will remain closed as they pose too much of a risk. This was in Boris update today. I think if the above not allowed to open on 04 July there is not much hope for swingers clubs being able to. The updates received on club websites were probably posted a few weeks ago. " And yet here you go again swingers clubs can't open News flash some are but only as pubs for people in the lifestyle to meet up within restrictions and have a chat n a drink or catch up with friends already known No sex has to take place inside the club and clubs will enforce the rules as they do any other rules Playrooms can be locked off to prevent access so it will just be the same as a regular pub but with like minded people Carry on with the club negativity cause it won't stop some of the prepared clubs open | |||
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"Any news on VA? Not at the moment but the staff team are all ready to go when we get the OK." Thank you | |||
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"If a club has a licenced bar then I can't see why they can't open as pub designed for people in the lifestyle as long as all guidelines are met No sex has to take place on the premises in fact play rooms can be locked off so only bar area and outside space is used They will just be a regular pub that swingers can go to and chat to others or friends without feeling outta place as others will be doing at regular pubs It will be a break from the boredom to talk freely to others on the scene" You would be as well just to book a small table in a pub to socialise with other swingers. People by and large won't go to a club just to socialise and the numbers wouldn't make it profitable for the club to exist. I think we will all have to accept the likelyhood that swingers clubs are history until a vaccine is found. | |||
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"If a club has a licenced bar then I can't see why they can't open as pub designed for people in the lifestyle as long as all guidelines are met No sex has to take place on the premises in fact play rooms can be locked off so only bar area and outside space is used They will just be a regular pub that swingers can go to and chat to others or friends without feeling outta place as others will be doing at regular pubs It will be a break from the boredom to talk freely to others on the scene You would be as well just to book a small table in a pub to socialise with other swingers. People by and large won't go to a club just to socialise and the numbers wouldn't make it profitable for the club to exist. I think we will all have to accept the likelyhood that swingers clubs are history until a vaccine is found. " So ur gonna go into a crowded pub and openly talk about swinging where others can possibly hear you chatting Clubs can offer an environment where people can talk freely without the risk of Jo blogs hearing every detail If you think they will be quite then owners would do the bar work them selves no need to staff You just need to accept a few will open for this reason | |||
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"If a club has a licenced bar then I can't see why they can't open as pub designed for people in the lifestyle as long as all guidelines are met No sex has to take place on the premises in fact play rooms can be locked off so only bar area and outside space is used They will just be a regular pub that swingers can go to and chat to others or friends without feeling outta place as others will be doing at regular pubs It will be a break from the boredom to talk freely to others on the scene You would be as well just to book a small table in a pub to socialise with other swingers. People by and large won't go to a club just to socialise and the numbers wouldn't make it profitable for the club to exist. I think we will all have to accept the likelyhood that swingers clubs are history until a vaccine is found. " Depends which swinging club customers you talk to. When I work behind the bar I chat to a lot and most are happy to socialise. | |||
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"Le Boudoir is opening 4th July - opening night is already sold out " How many tickets did they sell and how much did they cost? | |||
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" You would be as well just to book a small table in a pub to socialise with other swingers. People by and large won't go to a club just to socialise and the numbers wouldn't make it profitable for the club to exist. I think we will all have to accept the likelyhood that swingers clubs are history until a vaccine is found. " I disagree with this as I love the social aspect and I'm not fond of embarrassing or making the nillas feel uncomfortable. The socially distanced events, even at alternative venues, is seeing really good attendance, admitted the admitted numbers are low to allow more than 2m distances. The social aspect of swinging is *the* difference between swinging clubs and sex clubs. | |||
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" You would be as well just to book a small table in a pub to socialise with other swingers. People by and large won't go to a club just to socialise and the numbers wouldn't make it profitable for the club to exist. I think we will all have to accept the likelyhood that swingers clubs are history until a vaccine is found. I disagree with this as I love the social aspect and I'm not fond of embarrassing or making the nillas feel uncomfortable. The socially distanced events, even at alternative venues, is seeing really good attendance, admitted the admitted numbers are low to allow more than 2m distances. The social aspect of swinging is *the* difference between swinging clubs and sex clubs. " Well said | |||
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"I’d love to see a list of clubs, when they’re opening, for what/who (and not). If you have info please post here "Clubf have posted that they are opening for 11 couples and private room hire for bubbles | |||
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"I’d love to see a list of clubs, when they’re opening, for what/who (and not). If you have info please post here
Clubf have posted that they are opening for 11 couples and private room hire for bubbles"As a pub with social distancing? | |||
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"If a club has a licenced bar then I can't see why they can't open as pub designed for people in the lifestyle as long as all guidelines are met No sex has to take place on the premises in fact play rooms can be locked off so only bar area and outside space is used They will just be a regular pub that swingers can go to and chat to others or friends without feeling outta place as others will be doing at regular pubs It will be a break from the boredom to talk freely to others on the scene You would be as well just to book a small table in a pub to socialise with other swingers. People by and large won't go to a club just to socialise and the numbers wouldn't make it profitable for the club to exist. I think we will all have to accept the likelyhood that swingers clubs are history until a vaccine is found. Depends which swinging club customers you talk to. When I work behind the bar I chat to a lot and most are happy to socialise." I'm sure your right there is a social element to going to a swingers club, but it is predominantly there for use as a swingers/sex club. Those that go maybe just for as social pre covid had maybe subconsciously had an excitement about going about something maybe happening. Close down the play rooms the dungeon or whatever within that club and the lure and excitement for most will deminish. I don't think it is feasible for clubs to exist as bars only. | |||
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"Le Boudoir is opening 4th July
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Well they are and opening night is already sold out "It will probably be the last time they do open if that's the case! | |||
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"I’d love to see a list of clubs, when they’re opening, for what/who (and not). If you have info please post here
Clubf have posted that they are opening for 11 couples and private room hire for bubbles
As a pub with social distancing?"without putting words in their mouths.. since they have hotel rooms on site.... i think it is a hotel that happens to have a bar with social distancing (still no playing!) they also have a seperate dungeon for private hire usage (for couples/bubbles) | |||
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"I’d love to see a list of clubs, when they’re opening, for what/who (and not). If you have info please post here
Clubf have posted that they are opening for 11 couples and private room hire for bubbles"That was with the 2m rule, we are reworking it tomorrow though I dont think the number will change that much. We haven’t sorted out the opening dates or details yet, its small steps at the moment as its only been properly announced a few hours ago. | |||
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"If a club has a licenced bar then I can't see why they can't open as pub designed for people in the lifestyle as long as all guidelines are met No sex has to take place on the premises in fact play rooms can be locked off so only bar area and outside space is used They will just be a regular pub that swingers can go to and chat to others or friends without feeling outta place as others will be doing at regular pubs It will be a break from the boredom to talk freely to others on the scene You would be as well just to book a small table in a pub to socialise with other swingers. People by and large won't go to a club just to socialise and the numbers wouldn't make it profitable for the club to exist. I think we will all have to accept the likelyhood that swingers clubs are history until a vaccine is found. Depends which swinging club customers you talk to. When I work behind the bar I chat to a lot and most are happy to socialise. I'm sure your right there is a social element to going to a swingers club, but it is predominantly there for use as a swingers/sex club. Those that go maybe just for as social pre covid had maybe subconsciously had an excitement about going about something maybe happening. Close down the play rooms the dungeon or whatever within that club and the lure and excitement for most will deminish. I don't think it is feasible for clubs to exist as bars only. " Pre Covid did you actually go to clubs? If yes was it often as a regular? Have you been to various clubs? So you can truly understand all the different types of club set ups? Maybe not you but I find a lot of the people spreading doom and gloom that clubs are history, they won't reopen until a vaccine, not till 2022 etc etc have never actually been to a club or a most have maybe tried a club once or twice but have never become part of the club scene at all. Have you ever been to clubf? We have as regular members so have a far better understanding of the site, the fact its also a hotel, the size, layout etc So to us having that knowledge enables us to understand where Sue at clubf is coming from with some of the plans and ideas to move forward. Also just to agree with many other posters the social aspect of the club scene is huge and this will factor massively in how many clubs will recover. KJ x | |||
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"I’d love to see a list of clubs, when they’re opening, for what/who (and not). If you have info please post here "Hi SecretlyASoftie OP4F will continue to be closed until we are advised by our Government and World Health Organisation that it is safe to reopen, Our Guest & Team safety being of the utmost importance to us. | |||
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"If a club has a licenced bar then I can't see why they can't open as pub designed for people in the lifestyle as long as all guidelines are met No sex has to take place on the premises in fact play rooms can be locked off so only bar area and outside space is used They will just be a regular pub that swingers can go to and chat to others or friends without feeling outta place as others will be doing at regular pubs It will be a break from the boredom to talk freely to others on the scene You would be as well just to book a small table in a pub to socialise with other swingers. People by and large won't go to a club just to socialise and the numbers wouldn't make it profitable for the club to exist. I think we will all have to accept the likelyhood that swingers clubs are history until a vaccine is found. Depends which swinging club customers you talk to. When I work behind the bar I chat to a lot and most are happy to socialise. I'm sure your right there is a social element to going to a swingers club, but it is predominantly there for use as a swingers/sex club. Those that go maybe just for as social pre covid had maybe subconsciously had an excitement about going about something maybe happening. Close down the play rooms the dungeon or whatever within that club and the lure and excitement for most will deminish. I don't think it is feasible for clubs to exist as bars only. Pre Covid did you actually go to clubs? If yes was it often as a regular? Have you been to various clubs? So you can truly understand all the different types of club set ups? Maybe not you but I find a lot of the people spreading doom and gloom that clubs are history, they won't reopen until a vaccine, not till 2022 etc etc have never actually been to a club or a most have maybe tried a club once or twice but have never become part of the club scene at all. Have you ever been to clubf? We have as regular members so have a far better understanding of the site, the fact its also a hotel, the size, layout etc So to us having that knowledge enables us to understand where Sue at clubf is coming from with some of the plans and ideas to move forward. Also just to agree with many other posters the social aspect of the club scene is huge and this will factor massively in how many clubs will recover. KJ x " I have been to clubs, only 4 times in total. My argument is that (and I don't take any pleasure in this) I believe clubs are history until a vaccine is found. I can't see any licensing authority granting a licence to a swingers club in any guise whatsoever. And what about the less Liberal of those Council officials that will see this situation to eradicate these clubs from their town centres. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see any way forward for these clubs anytime soon. | |||
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"I’d love to see a list of clubs, when they’re opening, for what/who (and not). If you have info please post here
Clubf have posted that they are opening for 11 couples and private room hire for bubbles
As a pub with social distancing?
without putting words in their mouths.. since they have hotel rooms on site.... i think it is a hotel that happens to have a bar with social distancing (still no playing!)
they also have a seperate dungeon for private hire usage (for couples/bubbles) "A separate dungeon- so couples and singles will play in there? Illegal surely ? | |||
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"I’d love to see a list of clubs, when they’re opening, for what/who (and not). If you have info please post here
Clubf have posted that they are opening for 11 couples and private room hire for bubbles
As a pub with social distancing?
without putting words in their mouths.. since they have hotel rooms on site.... i think it is a hotel that happens to have a bar with social distancing (still no playing!)
they also have a seperate dungeon for private hire usage (for couples/bubbles)
A separate dungeon- so couples and singles will play in there? Illegal surely ? "if that is illegal i know that can be locked ..... that i assume may be able to open when indoor gyms can reopen..... so it would just be a hotel with a bar with social distancing.... no playing!!!! | |||
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"If a club has a licenced bar then I can't see why they can't open as pub designed for people in the lifestyle as long as all guidelines are met No sex has to take place on the premises in fact play rooms can be locked off so only bar area and outside space is used They will just be a regular pub that swingers can go to and chat to others or friends without feeling outta place as others will be doing at regular pubs It will be a break from the boredom to talk freely to others on the scene You would be as well just to book a small table in a pub to socialise with other swingers. People by and large won't go to a club just to socialise and the numbers wouldn't make it profitable for the club to exist. I think we will all have to accept the likelyhood that swingers clubs are history until a vaccine is found. Depends which swinging club customers you talk to. When I work behind the bar I chat to a lot and most are happy to socialise. I'm sure your right there is a social element to going to a swingers club, but it is predominantly there for use as a swingers/sex club. Those that go maybe just for as social pre covid had maybe subconsciously had an excitement about going about something maybe happening. Close down the play rooms the dungeon or whatever within that club and the lure and excitement for most will deminish. I don't think it is feasible for clubs to exist as bars only. Pre Covid did you actually go to clubs? If yes was it often as a regular? Have you been to various clubs? So you can truly understand all the different types of club set ups? Maybe not you but I find a lot of the people spreading doom and gloom that clubs are history, they won't reopen until a vaccine, not till 2022 etc etc have never actually been to a club or a most have maybe tried a club once or twice but have never become part of the club scene at all. Have you ever been to clubf? We have as regular members so have a far better understanding of the site, the fact its also a hotel, the size, layout etc So to us having that knowledge enables us to understand where Sue at clubf is coming from with some of the plans and ideas to move forward. Also just to agree with many other posters the social aspect of the club scene is huge and this will factor massively in how many clubs will recover. KJ x I have been to clubs, only 4 times in total. My argument is that (and I don't take any pleasure in this) I believe clubs are history until a vaccine is found. I can't see any licensing authority granting a licence to a swingers club in any guise whatsoever. And what about the less Liberal of those Council officials that will see this situation to eradicate these clubs from their town centres. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see any way forward for these clubs anytime soon. " Well then that makes sense so you have never became part of the club scene as a regular swinger really to truly understand how been a swinger is a lifestyle where the social side of it is central. A lot of single males are integral to this scene and we count many as friends. Your handful of club visits suggests you haven't become part of the club scene yet and like many single males (also applies to single women and couples but less so) just dipped your toe into clubs so still have the attitude it's a sex club and without the sex there's nothing much more to it. Your doom and gloom is very reminiscent of the 80s and HIV. Guess what no vacinne for that virus 40 years later and the club scene didn't die out at all. People learnt to live with the HIV virus and mitigate the risk the same will apply to covid19. I'll put my money where my mouth is I bet you that clubs will be open in the UK and operating with active playrooms before this tax year ends i.e by 31.03.21 If however I'm wrong and you are indeed right and clubs are doomed, history and not open and running by that date I will send you £1000 via PayPal! If I am right then you just send me £100 by PayPal! Bookmark this thread as I am a man of my word
OH and for total transparency I work for a local council in management and I have close contact with the licencing departments of most of the councils in the North East of England and trust me when I say they are very much focused on saving and supporting as many businesses as possible they certainly won't be the barrier you think they will be
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"If a club has a licenced bar then I can't see why they can't open as pub designed for people in the lifestyle as long as all guidelines are met No sex has to take place on the premises in fact play rooms can be locked off so only bar area and outside space is used They will just be a regular pub that swingers can go to and chat to others or friends without feeling outta place as others will be doing at regular pubs It will be a break from the boredom to talk freely to others on the scene You would be as well just to book a small table in a pub to socialise with other swingers. People by and large won't go to a club just to socialise and the numbers wouldn't make it profitable for the club to exist. I think we will all have to accept the likelyhood that swingers clubs are history until a vaccine is found. Depends which swinging club customers you talk to. When I work behind the bar I chat to a lot and most are happy to socialise. I'm sure your right there is a social element to going to a swingers club, but it is predominantly there for use as a swingers/sex club. Those that go maybe just for as social pre covid had maybe subconsciously had an excitement about going about something maybe happening. Close down the play rooms the dungeon or whatever within that club and the lure and excitement for most will deminish. I don't think it is feasible for clubs to exist as bars only. Pre Covid did you actually go to clubs? If yes was it often as a regular? Have you been to various clubs? So you can truly understand all the different types of club set ups? Maybe not you but I find a lot of the people spreading doom and gloom that clubs are history, they won't reopen until a vaccine, not till 2022 etc etc have never actually been to a club or a most have maybe tried a club once or twice but have never become part of the club scene at all. Have you ever been to clubf? We have as regular members so have a far better understanding of the site, the fact its also a hotel, the size, layout etc So to us having that knowledge enables us to understand where Sue at clubf is coming from with some of the plans and ideas to move forward. Also just to agree with many other posters the social aspect of the club scene is huge and this will factor massively in how many clubs will recover. KJ x I have been to clubs, only 4 times in total. My argument is that (and I don't take any pleasure in this) I believe clubs are history until a vaccine is found. I can't see any licensing authority granting a licence to a swingers club in any guise whatsoever. And what about the less Liberal of those Council officials that will see this situation to eradicate these clubs from their town centres. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see any way forward for these clubs anytime soon. Well then that makes sense so you have never became part of the club scene as a regular swinger really to truly understand how been a swinger is a lifestyle where the social side of it is central. A lot of single males are integral to this scene and we count many as friends. Your handful of club visits suggests you haven't become part of the club scene yet and like many single males (also applies to single women and couples but less so) just dipped your toe into clubs so still have the attitude it's a sex club and without the sex there's nothing much more to it. Your doom and gloom is very reminiscent of the 80s and HIV. Guess what no vacinne for that virus 40 years later and the club scene didn't die out at all. People learnt to live with the HIV virus and mitigate the risk the same will apply to covid19. I'll put my money where my mouth is I bet you that clubs will be open in the UK and operating with active playrooms before this tax year ends i.e by 31.03.21 If however I'm wrong and you are indeed right and clubs are doomed, history and not open and running by that date I will send you £1000 via PayPal! If I am right then you just send me £100 by PayPal! Bookmark this thread as I am a man of my word
OH and for total transparency I work for a local council in management and I have close contact with the licencing departments of most of the councils in the North East of England and trust me when I say they are very much focused on saving and supporting as many businesses as possible they certainly won't be the barrier you think they will be
KJ "You maybe right that I do not understand the lifestyle aspect fully. But I am pretty sure no swingers club will be open by 04 July and probably also 04 July next year. You can't compare COVID19 to HIV, although a horrendous virus it did/does not have the same transmitted infection rate as COVID19 does. | |||
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"If a club has a licenced bar then I can't see why they can't open as pub designed for people in the lifestyle as long as all guidelines are met No sex has to take place on the premises in fact play rooms can be locked off so only bar area and outside space is used They will just be a regular pub that swingers can go to and chat to others or friends without feeling outta place as others will be doing at regular pubs It will be a break from the boredom to talk freely to others on the scene You would be as well just to book a small table in a pub to socialise with other swingers. People by and large won't go to a club just to socialise and the numbers wouldn't make it profitable for the club to exist. I think we will all have to accept the likelyhood that swingers clubs are history until a vaccine is found. Depends which swinging club customers you talk to. When I work behind the bar I chat to a lot and most are happy to socialise. I'm sure your right there is a social element to going to a swingers club, but it is predominantly there for use as a swingers/sex club. Those that go maybe just for as social pre covid had maybe subconsciously had an excitement about going about something maybe happening. Close down the play rooms the dungeon or whatever within that club and the lure and excitement for most will deminish. I don't think it is feasible for clubs to exist as bars only. Pre Covid did you actually go to clubs? If yes was it often as a regular? Have you been to various clubs? So you can truly understand all the different types of club set ups? Maybe not you but I find a lot of the people spreading doom and gloom that clubs are history, they won't reopen until a vaccine, not till 2022 etc etc have never actually been to a club or a most have maybe tried a club once or twice but have never become part of the club scene at all. Have you ever been to clubf? We have as regular members so have a far better understanding of the site, the fact its also a hotel, the size, layout etc So to us having that knowledge enables us to understand where Sue at clubf is coming from with some of the plans and ideas to move forward. Also just to agree with many other posters the social aspect of the club scene is huge and this will factor massively in how many clubs will recover. KJ x I have been to clubs, only 4 times in total. My argument is that (and I don't take any pleasure in this) I believe clubs are history until a vaccine is found. I can't see any licensing authority granting a licence to a swingers club in any guise whatsoever. And what about the less Liberal of those Council officials that will see this situation to eradicate these clubs from their town centres. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see any way forward for these clubs anytime soon. Well then that makes sense so you have never became part of the club scene as a regular swinger really to truly understand how been a swinger is a lifestyle where the social side of it is central. A lot of single males are integral to this scene and we count many as friends. Your handful of club visits suggests you haven't become part of the club scene yet and like many single males (also applies to single women and couples but less so) just dipped your toe into clubs so still have the attitude it's a sex club and without the sex there's nothing much more to it. Your doom and gloom is very reminiscent of the 80s and HIV. Guess what no vacinne for that virus 40 years later and the club scene didn't die out at all. People learnt to live with the HIV virus and mitigate the risk the same will apply to covid19. I'll put my money where my mouth is I bet you that clubs will be open in the UK and operating with active playrooms before this tax year ends i.e by 31.03.21 If however I'm wrong and you are indeed right and clubs are doomed, history and not open and running by that date I will send you £1000 via PayPal! If I am right then you just send me £100 by PayPal! Bookmark this thread as I am a man of my word
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You maybe right that I do not understand the lifestyle aspect fully. But I am pretty sure no swingers club will be open by 04 July and probably also 04 July next year.
You can't compare COVID19 to HIV, although a horrendous virus it did/does not have the same transmitted infection rate as COVID19 does. "So if your sure take my bet its 10 to 1 in your favour. I will honour it. You talk about councils and what they will do I highlighted that's what I do for living work for a council so my experience is based on fact and experience. What were your statements about councils using covid19 to destroy an industry sector based on? Or were they baseless opinion? I am Honestly curious. I didn't compare the 2 viruses I highlighted even though billions of pounds and 40 years of research has taken place there is still no vaccine for HIV. Taking that into account there's no way whole industries, lifestyles will be left to crumble unless a vacinne for covid19 is found. Swinging clubs are by no means the only sectors where social distancing is impossible they are just one of many! By your logic without the holy grail of a vacine then Karate clubs, Judo clubs are history as well yeah? Same for physiotherapists? Music festivals all over the globe are going to be history also yes? KJ | |||
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"If a club has a licenced bar then I can't see why they can't open as pub designed for people in the lifestyle as long as all guidelines are met No sex has to take place on the premises in fact play rooms can be locked off so only bar area and outside space is used They will just be a regular pub that swingers can go to and chat to others or friends without feeling outta place as others will be doing at regular pubs It will be a break from the boredom to talk freely to others on the scene You would be as well just to book a small table in a pub to socialise with other swingers. People by and large won't go to a club just to socialise and the numbers wouldn't make it profitable for the club to exist. I think we will all have to accept the likelyhood that swingers clubs are history until a vaccine is found. Depends which swinging club customers you talk to. When I work behind the bar I chat to a lot and most are happy to socialise. I'm sure your right there is a social element to going to a swingers club, but it is predominantly there for use as a swingers/sex club. Those that go maybe just for as social pre covid had maybe subconsciously had an excitement about going about something maybe happening. Close down the play rooms the dungeon or whatever within that club and the lure and excitement for most will deminish. I don't think it is feasible for clubs to exist as bars only. Pre Covid did you actually go to clubs? If yes was it often as a regular? Have you been to various clubs? So you can truly understand all the different types of club set ups? Maybe not you but I find a lot of the people spreading doom and gloom that clubs are history, they won't reopen until a vaccine, not till 2022 etc etc have never actually been to a club or a most have maybe tried a club once or twice but have never become part of the club scene at all. Have you ever been to clubf? We have as regular members so have a far better understanding of the site, the fact its also a hotel, the size, layout etc So to us having that knowledge enables us to understand where Sue at clubf is coming from with some of the plans and ideas to move forward. Also just to agree with many other posters the social aspect of the club scene is huge and this will factor massively in how many clubs will recover. KJ x I have been to clubs, only 4 times in total. My argument is that (and I don't take any pleasure in this) I believe clubs are history until a vaccine is found. I can't see any licensing authority granting a licence to a swingers club in any guise whatsoever. And what about the less Liberal of those Council officials that will see this situation to eradicate these clubs from their town centres. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see any way forward for these clubs anytime soon. Well then that makes sense so you have never became part of the club scene as a regular swinger really to truly understand how been a swinger is a lifestyle where the social side of it is central. A lot of single males are integral to this scene and we count many as friends. Your handful of club visits suggests you haven't become part of the club scene yet and like many single males (also applies to single women and couples but less so) just dipped your toe into clubs so still have the attitude it's a sex club and without the sex there's nothing much more to it. Your doom and gloom is very reminiscent of the 80s and HIV. Guess what no vacinne for that virus 40 years later and the club scene didn't die out at all. People learnt to live with the HIV virus and mitigate the risk the same will apply to covid19. I'll put my money where my mouth is I bet you that clubs will be open in the UK and operating with active playrooms before this tax year ends i.e by 31.03.21 If however I'm wrong and you are indeed right and clubs are doomed, history and not open and running by that date I will send you £1000 via PayPal! If I am right then you just send me £100 by PayPal! Bookmark this thread as I am a man of my word
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"I’ve seen townhouse say 4th July but for private hires, no events This is still to be announced as I'm waiting for the fine detail to be released. However, if we can hire to a couple who want to use the whole club for themselves, then we will. I'm still putting together the fine detail on health and safety and we will only allow this kind of hire if it's deemed safe and within guidelines. We've had from Public Health but I still want to be sure we are legal and safe to do this.
I will publicly announce if we are doing this and when.
What I CAN confirm is that we WILL NOT be opening as a bar for socials only as we cannot socially distance and get enough bums on seats to be financially viable in our venue. We will only be opening for parties when social distancing is dropped altogether
Vic xxx"Well said! It seems to be, to the ordinary man in the street, that come the date of 4th July, everyone will be able to resume their Bar Life again, as if nothing has happened!! But as outlined above, it's not that simple for all Licensed premises, and I'm not just including Pubs & Bars. There are other Licensing factors across Local, Regional, & National authorities that have to be adhered to before specific establishments will ever open. Some people will sadly find their dream of it all opening on July 4th will all be in vain. It won't be 100% cut & dried. Give it time! | |||
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OH and for total transparency I work for a local council in management and I have close contact with the licencing departments of most of the councils in the North East of England and trust me when I say they are very much focused on saving and supporting as many businesses as possible they certainly won't be the barrier you think they will be
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You maybe right that I do not understand the lifestyle aspect fully. But I am pretty sure no swingers club will be open by 04 July and probably also 04 July next year.
You can't compare COVID19 to HIV, although a horrendous virus it did/does not have the same transmitted infection rate as COVID19 does. "you are truly the Master of Doom and Gloom , reckon you need to disapear down an underground bunker with a shit load of tinned food and when you come up in 5 years when you reckon it might be safe we can tell you about all the fun we have been having lol | |||
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"If a club has a licenced bar then I can't see why they can't open as pub designed for people in the lifestyle as long as all guidelines are met No sex has to take place on the premises in fact play rooms can be locked off so only bar area and outside space is used They will just be a regular pub that swingers can go to and chat to others or friends without feeling outta place as others will be doing at regular pubs It will be a break from the boredom to talk freely to others on the scene You would be as well just to book a small table in a pub to socialise with other swingers. People by and large won't go to a club just to socialise and the numbers wouldn't make it profitable for the club to exist. I think we will all have to accept the likelyhood that swingers clubs are history until a vaccine is found. Depends which swinging club customers you talk to. When I work behind the bar I chat to a lot and most are happy to socialise. I'm sure your right there is a social element to going to a swingers club, but it is predominantly there for use as a swingers/sex club. Those that go maybe just for as social pre covid had maybe subconsciously had an excitement about going about something maybe happening. Close down the play rooms the dungeon or whatever within that club and the lure and excitement for most will deminish. I don't think it is feasible for clubs to exist as bars only. Pre Covid did you actually go to clubs? If yes was it often as a regular? Have you been to various clubs? So you can truly understand all the different types of club set ups? Maybe not you but I find a lot of the people spreading doom and gloom that clubs are history, they won't reopen until a vaccine, not till 2022 etc etc have never actually been to a club or a most have maybe tried a club once or twice but have never become part of the club scene at all. Have you ever been to clubf? We have as regular members so have a far better understanding of the site, the fact its also a hotel, the size, layout etc So to us having that knowledge enables us to understand where Sue at clubf is coming from with some of the plans and ideas to move forward. Also just to agree with many other posters the social aspect of the club scene is huge and this will factor massively in how many clubs will recover. KJ x I have been to clubs, only 4 times in total. My argument is that (and I don't take any pleasure in this) I believe clubs are history until a vaccine is found. I can't see any licensing authority granting a licence to a swingers club in any guise whatsoever. And what about the less Liberal of those Council officials that will see this situation to eradicate these clubs from their town centres. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see any way forward for these clubs anytime soon. Well then that makes sense so you have never became part of the club scene as a regular swinger really to truly understand how been a swinger is a lifestyle where the social side of it is central. A lot of single males are integral to this scene and we count many as friends. Your handful of club visits suggests you haven't become part of the club scene yet and like many single males (also applies to single women and couples but less so) just dipped your toe into clubs so still have the attitude it's a sex club and without the sex there's nothing much more to it. Your doom and gloom is very reminiscent of the 80s and HIV. Guess what no vacinne for that virus 40 years later and the club scene didn't die out at all. People learnt to live with the HIV virus and mitigate the risk the same will apply to covid19. I'll put my money where my mouth is I bet you that clubs will be open in the UK and operating with active playrooms before this tax year ends i.e by 31.03.21 If however I'm wrong and you are indeed right and clubs are doomed, history and not open and running by that date I will send you £1000 via PayPal! If I am right then you just send me £100 by PayPal! Bookmark this thread as I am a man of my word
OH and for total transparency I work for a local council in management and I have close contact with the licencing departments of most of the councils in the North East of England and trust me when I say they are very much focused on saving and supporting as many businesses as possible they certainly won't be the barrier you think they will be
KJ "You're playing it too safe there. Social distancing to be dropped by 15.9.20 and we carry on as normal during the second wave (late October) Again bookmark this. We haven't been locked up to save lives, we've been locked up to see what would happen to the economy and health care systems . The world's governments have fucked us right over. Also before anyone starts I lost my dad to Covid. | |||
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"If getting my nails done is deemed to dangerous I doubt boris is going to allow a club gang bang lol. But yeah unfortunately I think swingers clubs are gonna be last in line along with concerts and gigs . " I think this is why social distancing will be dropped mid September. There is too much money in nightclubs, concerts and theatres. This has always been about money sadly and not lives. One the the second point, I miss gangbangs  | |||
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"If a club has a licenced bar then I can't see why they can't open as pub designed for people in the lifestyle as long as all guidelines are met No sex has to take place on the premises in fact play rooms can be locked off so only bar area and outside space is used They will just be a regular pub that swingers can go to and chat to others or friends without feeling outta place as others will be doing at regular pubs It will be a break from the boredom to talk freely to others on the scene You would be as well just to book a small table in a pub to socialise with other swingers. People by and large won't go to a club just to socialise and the numbers wouldn't make it profitable for the club to exist. I think we will all have to accept the likelyhood that swingers clubs are history until a vaccine is found. Depends which swinging club customers you talk to. When I work behind the bar I chat to a lot and most are happy to socialise. I'm sure your right there is a social element to going to a swingers club, but it is predominantly there for use as a swingers/sex club. Those that go maybe just for as social pre covid had maybe subconsciously had an excitement about going about something maybe happening. Close down the play rooms the dungeon or whatever within that club and the lure and excitement for most will deminish. I don't think it is feasible for clubs to exist as bars only. Pre Covid did you actually go to clubs? If yes was it often as a regular? Have you been to various clubs? So you can truly understand all the different types of club set ups? Maybe not you but I find a lot of the people spreading doom and gloom that clubs are history, they won't reopen until a vaccine, not till 2022 etc etc have never actually been to a club or a most have maybe tried a club once or twice but have never become part of the club scene at all. Have you ever been to clubf? We have as regular members so have a far better understanding of the site, the fact its also a hotel, the size, layout etc So to us having that knowledge enables us to understand where Sue at clubf is coming from with some of the plans and ideas to move forward. Also just to agree with many other posters the social aspect of the club scene is huge and this will factor massively in how many clubs will recover. KJ x I have been to clubs, only 4 times in total. My argument is that (and I don't take any pleasure in this) I believe clubs are history until a vaccine is found. I can't see any licensing authority granting a licence to a swingers club in any guise whatsoever. And what about the less Liberal of those Council officials that will see this situation to eradicate these clubs from their town centres. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see any way forward for these clubs anytime soon. Well then that makes sense so you have never became part of the club scene as a regular swinger really to truly understand how been a swinger is a lifestyle where the social side of it is central. A lot of single males are integral to this scene and we count many as friends. Your handful of club visits suggests you haven't become part of the club scene yet and like many single males (also applies to single women and couples but less so) just dipped your toe into clubs so still have the attitude it's a sex club and without the sex there's nothing much more to it. Your doom and gloom is very reminiscent of the 80s and HIV. Guess what no vacinne for that virus 40 years later and the club scene didn't die out at all. People learnt to live with the HIV virus and mitigate the risk the same will apply to covid19. I'll put my money where my mouth is I bet you that clubs will be open in the UK and operating with active playrooms before this tax year ends i.e by 31.03.21 If however I'm wrong and you are indeed right and clubs are doomed, history and not open and running by that date I will send you £1000 via PayPal! If I am right then you just send me £100 by PayPal! Bookmark this thread as I am a man of my word
OH and for total transparency I work for a local council in management and I have close contact with the licencing departments of most of the councils in the North East of England and trust me when I say they are very much focused on saving and supporting as many businesses as possible they certainly won't be the barrier you think they will be
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You're playing it too safe there. Social distancing to be dropped by 15.9.20 and we carry on as normal during the second wave (late October)
Again bookmark this.
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"If getting my nails done is deemed to dangerous I doubt boris is going to allow a club gang bang lol. But yeah unfortunately I think swingers clubs are gonna be last in line along with concerts and gigs . I think this is why social distancing will be dropped mid September. There is too much money in nightclubs, concerts and theatres. This has always been about money sadly and not lives. One the the second point, I miss gangbangs "I've just had notification of the spike island resurrection concert booked that's changed date twice already this year to moved to July NEXT year so I cant imagine anything that's in very close contact happening soon.... but you never know stuffs changing constantly | |||
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"If getting my nails done is deemed to dangerous I doubt boris is going to allow a club gang bang lol. But yeah unfortunately I think swingers clubs are gonna be last in line along with concerts and gigs . I think this is why social distancing will be dropped mid September. There is too much money in nightclubs, concerts and theatres. This has always been about money sadly and not lives. One the the second point, I miss gangbangs I've just had notification of the spike island resurrection concert booked that's changed date twice already this year to moved to July NEXT year so I cant imagine anything that's in very close contact happening soon.... but you never know stuffs changing constantly "Yeah I think this may be more to do with people have already booked venues in October/November/December. It'll be interesting to see if OCS goes ahead in December (still not cancelled) and if the neighbourhood festival in Warrington gets cancelled soon (rescheduled until September) I just don't think the powers that be have any concern over our welfare, whilst simultaneously brainwashing a large portion of the UK to spread propoganda in the form of their message. It's an absolute mess. | |||
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"Clubs are kept alive by the membership and admission money the single guys pay. They men pay that in the hope of getting a fuck. If there is no sex the men wont come. The clubs wont be kept alive by a few couples "erotically socializing" You can do that in the pub or at private house meets No sex = no men = no income It's a no-brainer." I think you're wrong mate. Dead wrong. A lot will fold for the reason you've given but that's not every clubs business model. Townhouse hasn't relied on single men to keep ticking over for a long time. | |||
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"Clubs are kept alive by the membership and admission money the single guys pay. They men pay that in the hope of getting a fuck. If there is no sex the men wont come. The clubs wont be kept alive by a few couples "erotically socializing" You can do that in the pub or at private house meets No sex = no men = no income It's a no-brainer. I think you're wrong mate. Dead wrong. A lot will fold for the reason you've given but that's not every clubs business model. Townhouse hasn't relied on single men to keep ticking over for a long time. " So what will they do about social distance ? Townhouse may survive a little bit longer because they sell alcohol and are basically a social club with sexual and erotic activities available as well. But when the sexual and erotic activities are curtailed will they survive for long ? Will people really travel from Cheshire and Wales and even further afield just to socialise in their bar ? I doubt that. | |||
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"Clubs are kept alive by the membership and admission money the single guys pay. They men pay that in the hope of getting a fuck. If there is no sex the men wont come. The clubs wont be kept alive by a few couples "erotically socializing" You can do that in the pub or at private house meets No sex = no men = no income It's a no-brainer." Not at all. Club SX had no membership fees and single guys paid the same £30 that couples did to get in. I also know many single men who go for the social and if they play then see it as a bonus. Looks like you are attending the wrong clubs or are just ill informed. | |||
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"Clubs are kept alive by the membership and admission money the single guys pay. They men pay that in the hope of getting a fuck. If there is no sex the men wont come. The clubs wont be kept alive by a few couples "erotically socializing" You can do that in the pub or at private house meets No sex = no men = no income It's a no-brainer. I think you're wrong mate. Dead wrong. A lot will fold for the reason you've given but that's not every clubs business model. Townhouse hasn't relied on single men to keep ticking over for a long time. So what will they do about social distance ? Townhouse may survive a little bit longer because they sell alcohol and are basically a social club with sexual and erotic activities available as well. But when the sexual and erotic activities are curtailed will they survive for long ? Will people really travel from Cheshire and Wales and even further afield just to socialise in their bar ? I doubt that." I think so. They have many more strings to their bow and have made a community. Will it be profitable, only vicky can tell you that. One thing is for certain people have a habit of adapting and that's what I think we will see here. | |||
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"Clubs are kept alive by the membership and admission money the single guys pay. They men pay that in the hope of getting a fuck. If there is no sex the men wont come. The clubs wont be kept alive by a few couples "erotically socializing" You can do that in the pub or at private house meets No sex = no men = no income It's a no-brainer. Not at all. Club SX had no membership fees and single guys paid the same £30 that couples did to get in. I also know many single men who go for the social and if they play then see it as a bonus. Looks like you are attending the wrong clubs or are just ill informed. " This is my point Hanky. Those clubs that have built a community (cupids, Townhouse, Play, Decadence ) have a far better chance of surviving than those that have not. Got to say I'm surprised we haven't seen any swinging speakeasys yet. Pull a book, get a fuck, sort of deals. | |||
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"There's a few licensing 'experts' here who are sharing duff info. Everybody is an expert in some body else business, I sure they get all the expert information from Elvis down at the chip shop" Elvis? But he's a liar and I'm not sure about you.....! | |||
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"Clubs are kept alive by the membership and admission money the single guys pay. They men pay that in the hope of getting a fuck. If there is no sex the men wont come. The clubs wont be kept alive by a few couples "erotically socializing" You can do that in the pub or at private house meets No sex = no men = no income It's a no-brainer. Not at all. Club SX had no membership fees and single guys paid the same £30 that couples did to get in. I also know many single men who go for the social and if they play then see it as a bonus. Looks like you are attending the wrong clubs or are just ill informed. This is my point Hanky. Those clubs that have built a community (cupids, Townhouse, Play, Decadence ) have a far better chance of surviving than those that have not. Got to say I'm surprised we haven't seen any swinging speakeasys yet. Pull a book, get a fuck, sort of deals. " Community is a good word for it - I have kept in touch with a fair few customers since we have been closed at Play/SX as they are friends, mates and acquaintances - whether they have messaged me or vice versa. And its that community which keeps clubs alive - not just sex | |||
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"Clubs are kept alive by the membership and admission money the single guys pay. They men pay that in the hope of getting a fuck. If there is no sex the men wont come. The clubs wont be kept alive by a few couples "erotically socializing" You can do that in the pub or at private house meets No sex = no men = no income It's a no-brainer." Wow, a guy on here with mno agenda! Always good to look at a profile and green arrow, get to know a lot more. | |||
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"Clubs are kept alive by the membership and admission money the single guys pay. They men pay that in the hope of getting a fuck. If there is no sex the men wont come. The clubs wont be kept alive by a few couples "erotically socializing" You can do that in the pub or at private house meets No sex = no men = no income It's a no-brainer. Not at all. Club SX had no membership fees and single guys paid the same £30 that couples did to get in. I also know many single men who go for the social and if they play then see it as a bonus. Looks like you are attending the wrong clubs or are just ill informed. This is my point Hanky. Those clubs that have built a community (cupids, Townhouse, Play, Decadence ) have a far better chance of surviving than those that have not. Got to say I'm surprised we haven't seen any swinging speakeasys yet. Pull a book, get a fuck, sort of deals. Community is a good word for it - I have kept in touch with a fair few customers since we have been closed at Play/SX as they are friends, mates and acquaintances - whether they have messaged me or vice versa. And its that community which keeps clubs alive - not just sex "As a fully paid up member of sparkle I know that better than anyone. (for the record all payment is in cake, no money changes hands ) | |||
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"Clubs are kept alive by the membership and admission money the single guys pay. They men pay that in the hope of getting a fuck. If there is no sex the men wont come. The clubs wont be kept alive by a few couples "erotically socializing" You can do that in the pub or at private house meets No sex = no men = no income It's a no-brainer. Not at all. Club SX had no membership fees and single guys paid the same £30 that couples did to get in. I also know many single men who go for the social and if they play then see it as a bonus. Looks like you are attending the wrong clubs or are just ill informed. This is my point Hanky. Those clubs that have built a community (cupids, Townhouse, Play, Decadence ) have a far better chance of surviving than those that have not. Got to say I'm surprised we haven't seen any swinging speakeasys yet. Pull a book, get a fuck, sort of deals. Community is a good word for it - I have kept in touch with a fair few customers since we have been closed at Play/SX as they are friends, mates and acquaintances - whether they have messaged me or vice versa. And its that community which keeps clubs alive - not just sex "If I walked through your doors when you open up again and I was made welcome by a few fellow bisexuals and—why not—straights and I chatted and had a laugh, I’d be a happy man, even if no sex was involved. | |||
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