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"Booking tickets now!! Fck social distancing " Hope the doctor doesn't say fk you if you get the virus but it would make me chuckle if he did. | |||
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"I wouldn’t hesitate in going " Bet you are gagging Mrs. | |||
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"I wouldn’t hesitate in going Bet you are gagging Mrs. " You know me G | |||
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"Booking tickets now!! Fck social distancing Hope the doctor doesn't say fk you if you get the virus but it would make me chuckle if he did. How pleasant you are. Some of us think there shouldn’t have been a lockdown. At least not to the extent it was. And that number is growing daily " I'm with you | |||
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"We got the email too. We were booked in for the official opening weekend before lockdown got in the way. Can’t wait to see the new place. But think we will wait a little bit yet - need a hotel for the weekend and not sure what will be available, we like to play and social distanced club experience sounds a bit odd (the email said face-coverings and gloves if you want to wear them ) We love LB and want to support but a bit soon for us sadly" I just spoke to a friend who runs a pub and he has had not been told he's allowed to open on 4th July and the guidance being offered at this point in time is thin on the ground. Do you have a link to the guidance you've been given and yes I am serious as he'd love to be open asap | |||
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"Hey, just received an email saying LB is opening 4th July for couples and single people in bubbles. Strict covid guidelines in place. I'd be more than happy to go along as a single female and just be a voyeur for the evening Any one planning on going?" I will be there with Jacqui. See you there Pinky xx *fistbump* | |||
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"Booking tickets now!! Fck social distancing Hope the doctor doesn't say fk you if you get the virus but it would make me chuckle if he did. How pleasant you are. Some of us think there shouldn’t have been a lockdown. At least not to the extent it was. And that number is growing daily " . Totally agree with you after effects of lockdown will be horrendous watch people’s attitudes change when this becomes more apparent | |||
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"Booking tickets now!! Fck social distancing Hope the doctor doesn't say fk you if you get the virus but it would make me chuckle if he did. How pleasant you are. Some of us think there shouldn’t have been a lockdown. At least not to the extent it was. And that number is growing daily " No one that works in an intensive care unit and believe me I know | |||
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"Booking tickets now!! Fck social distancing Hope the doctor doesn't say fk you if you get the virus but it would make me chuckle if he did. How pleasant you are. Some of us think there shouldn’t have been a lockdown. At least not to the extent it was. And that number is growing daily No one that works in an intensive care unit and believe me I know " And not someone who has survived COVID like myself..... | |||
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"I would be quite concerned for your friend if he is unaware of the 4th as a reopening date. It has been spoken about for sometime, the government have often spoken about. Yes this has always been as the earliest possible date, however you'd not be a great business owner at a time when all businesses have been losing money to not be ready for the earliest opening date. It is pretty much an accepted consensus that the hospitality industry will reopen on the 4th. We’ve seen many companies within hospitality promoting this as their reopening date. Our friends who own pubs and restaurants are all ready for the 4th. Are you really saying your friend isn’t? As to the guidance, I’ve just simply googled ‘guidance advice for pubs and restaurants to reopen’ and was given several options for your friend to use. " Actually nothing has been confirmed for anybody Hospitality yet. The current government guidelines as stated on their website States no date however they are working towards the 4th for some establishments. An announcement is being made by Boris tomorrow at the daily briefing. So nobody will know anything until tomorrow. | |||
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"I dont want to seem naive, but if Le Boudiour have arranged a re opening with specific measures, with that mean all clubs (that have space) can also set to re open? I don't want this to turn political or into an argument, just wondered how they've done it and what that means for other clubs " Le Boudoir have interpreted the announcements so far to mean they will be able to open with social distancing on 4th July (given that all government announcements up to this point have said the hospitality industry can begin to reopen from 4th July at the earliest). They are gambling that the caveats placed on reopening will be compatible with how they want to run the night. The government have confirmed more details on this will be officially announced tomorrow - however I can’t see Swinging Clubs being covered in the briefing! I would imagine a large part will be down to local council who licence each club and whether they are happy for them to reopen. Plus their insurance providers will have a say on whether they will provide cover based on their interpretation of the advice and I imagine the individual risk assessment the club has produced. | |||
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"I dont want to seem naive, but if Le Boudiour have arranged a re opening with specific measures, with that mean all clubs (that have space) can also set to re open? I don't want this to turn political or into an argument, just wondered how they've done it and what that means for other clubs Le Boudoir have interpreted the announcements so far to mean they will be able to open with social distancing on 4th July (given that all government announcements up to this point have said the hospitality industry can begin to reopen from 4th July at the earliest). They are gambling that the caveats placed on reopening will be compatible with how they want to run the night. The government have confirmed more details on this will be officially announced tomorrow - however I can’t see Swinging Clubs being covered in the briefing! I would imagine a large part will be down to local council who licence each club and whether they are happy for them to reopen. Plus their insurance providers will have a say on whether they will provide cover based on their interpretation of the advice and I imagine the individual risk assessment the club has produced. " No I don't believe swinging clubs will be specifically mentioned but Will come under adult entertainment and private members clubs. My friend owns a small nightclub and his thinking is they probably will be able to open on the 4th but for reduced hours. | |||
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" My friend owns a small nightclub and his thinking is they probably will be able to open on the 4th but for reduced hours. " I don't see how Le Boudoir and your friend's nightclub can open on July 4. The government website says "premises whose sole purpose is social interaction (such as nightclubs) may only open significantly later when the rate of infection has fallen further" | |||
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" My friend owns a small nightclub and his thinking is they probably will be able to open on the 4th but for reduced hours. I don't see how Le Boudoir and your friend's nightclub can open on July 4. The government website says "premises whose sole purpose is social interaction (such as nightclubs) may only open significantly later when the rate of infection has fallen further"" He's not sure yet as no proper announcements have been made. Hes trying to think of ways he can repurpose. He's of a similar thinking to you. | |||
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"The announcement is 12.30pm today" I really hope it gives lots of businesses clarity and at least a timeframe as to when they can open and how. | |||
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" My friend owns a small nightclub and his thinking is they probably will be able to open on the 4th but for reduced hours. I don't see how Le Boudoir and your friend's nightclub can open on July 4. The government website says "premises whose sole purpose is social interaction (such as nightclubs) may only open significantly later when the rate of infection has fallen further"" | |||
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"The announcement is 12.30pm today I really hope it gives lots of businesses clarity and at least a timeframe as to when they can open and how." Yes | |||
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"Will Le Boudoir still open July 4th ?" According to their profile yes.... However it sounds like it will just be a bar and not an adult venue? | |||
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"Oh dear. Its not looking good. As I'm pretty sure clubs will fall in to the close proximity and nightclub category. " this is my interpretation on the statement... i think they have jumped the gun here.... | |||
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"There isn't a way any club can legally open on the 4th off July. Nightclubs can't open spas can't open I'm pretty sure if any of the local councils find clubs open they will be shut down " I'm pretty sure the council are aware. They won't risk their license I'm pretty sure la boudoir know what they're doing Your idea of a nightclub might not technically be what a nightclub is and might not technically be what la boudoir is licensed for. As a layman and a quick Google search I don't even know the difference between a pub and a nightclub...a nightclub has a dance floor and DJ? Isolate those areas, follow the guidance, put up signs and cover your backs...I see no issue why clubs cannot open, if under the brand social club. Not all clubs are licensed for alcohol. Whether they will or not is purely at their discretion with how comfortable they are justifying they've met the rules | |||
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"Maybe I can shed a little light on this. As a member I went to LB on the first Saturday night at their new venue. So I know the layout. The venue itself operates in two parts. Friday and Saturday nights from 9:30pm as Le Boudoir club. On other days Tuesday to Friday (I think) part of the venue operates as a pub/bar. It has a fully licensed bar as you would expect from a pub. So if the new guide lines are put into place it is quite possible it would be allowed to open. " only that part would then be allowed to open... in effect the rest would with be "off limits".... or open up the entire venue as a glorified bar but then no playing would be allowed...... i don't see how you'd be able to open it as a swinging club as such..... | |||
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"There isn't a way any club can legally open on the 4th off July. Nightclubs can't open spas can't open I'm pretty sure if any of the local councils find clubs open they will be shut down I'm pretty sure the council are aware. They won't risk their license I'm pretty sure la boudoir know what they're doing Your idea of a nightclub might not technically be what a nightclub is and might not technically be what la boudoir is licensed for. As a layman and a quick Google search I don't even know the difference between a pub and a nightclub...a nightclub has a dance floor and DJ? Isolate those areas, follow the guidance, put up signs and cover your backs...I see no issue why clubs cannot open, if under the brand social club. Not all clubs are licensed for alcohol. Whether they will or not is purely at their discretion with how comfortable they are justifying they've met the rules " Pretty sure they don't know what they're doing all the accounts or were aware because they updated people and send emails before any official announcement. I understand them wanting to get back to normal but unfortunately they made themselves look over eager and potentially not to put people safety Paramount. There is no way they can open with any form of play. | |||
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"Booking tickets now!! Fck social distancing Hope the doctor doesn't say fk you if you get the virus but it would make me chuckle if he did. How pleasant you are. Some of us think there shouldn’t have been a lockdown. At least not to the extent it was. And that number is growing daily " This is why clubs shouldn't be opening | |||
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"Hi, Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice. We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline. It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July. People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times. Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun. The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so. have a good day. " Very irresponsible... certainly not a club we'd visit anytime | |||
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"Like a previous post said. Your all experts now! Lancashire, Newcastle, somewhere (wtf?) I'll hazard a guess that none of you have ever been to Le Boudoir and have no understanding of the professionalism that the club has. Hands down, these are the best club operators in the UK. They won't have made the decision to open if they had any doubts and had not prepared for it. My regret is that it's couples only - responsibly. I would love to have gone on the 4th. No hesitation. Stop whinging people. Get on with your live's and leave others to do the same. So much ill informed opinion and negativity. " | |||
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"Like a previous post said. Your all experts now! Lancashire, Newcastle, somewhere (wtf?) I'll hazard a guess that none of you have ever been to Le Boudoir and have no understanding of the professionalism that the club has. Hands down, these are the best club operators in the UK. They won't have made the decision to open if they had any doubts and had not prepared for it. My regret is that it's couples only - responsibly. I would love to have gone on the 4th. No hesitation. Stop whinging people. Get on with your live's and leave others to do the same. So much ill informed opinion and negativity. " I hope they lose their license | |||
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"Like a previous post said. Your all experts now! Lancashire, Newcastle, somewhere (wtf?) I'll hazard a guess that none of you have ever been to Le Boudoir and have no understanding of the professionalism that the club has. Hands down, these are the best club operators in the UK. They won't have made the decision to open if they had any doubts and had not prepared for it. My regret is that it's couples only - responsibly. I would love to have gone on the 4th. No hesitation. Stop whinging people. Get on with your live's and leave others to do the same. So much ill informed opinion and negativity. I hope they lose their license " That's a really poor attitude to have. It doesn't affect you in the slightest. Don't like it, don't go but keep your snide remarks to yourself. | |||
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"This post was always going to court controversy. We are booked for the 11th and cant wait. Thanks so much to all the team at LB for putting all the effort to get the club open again. Shall we say a night of bubbling and bubbles !" | |||
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"Like a previous post said. Your all experts now! Lancashire, Newcastle, somewhere (wtf?) I'll hazard a guess that none of you have ever been to Le Boudoir and have no understanding of the professionalism that the club has. Hands down, these are the best club operators in the UK. They won't have made the decision to open if they had any doubts and had not prepared for it. My regret is that it's couples only - responsibly. I would love to have gone on the 4th. No hesitation. Stop whinging people. Get on with your live's and leave others to do the same. So much ill informed opinion and negativity. I hope they lose their license That's a really poor attitude to have. It doesn't affect you in the slightest. Don't like it, don't go but keep your snide remarks to yourself. " Its a forum where people are allowed different opinions...so thanks for the advice but ill decline your invitation | |||
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" I hope they lose their license " And there it is. All that's wrong with the world. Pure spite and malice. Sadly, it has shown you up for what you are, just spitefull. | |||
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" I hope they lose their license And there it is. All that's wrong with the world. Pure spite and malice. Sadly, it has shown you up for what you are, just spitefull. " Nothing to do with that, no doubt you were out clapping a few weeks ago | |||
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"I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half. We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too. I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels. The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail. Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules. It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk. Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team. If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had. LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs. Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all. " | |||
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"I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half. We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too. I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels. The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail. Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules. It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk. Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team. If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had. LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs. Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all. " Well said | |||
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"I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half. We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too. I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels. The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail. Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules. It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk. Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team. If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had. LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs. Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all. " 100% spot on. | |||
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"I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half. We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too. I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels. The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail. Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules. It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk. Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team. If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had. LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs. Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all. " Very well said... A well constructed unbias post.some would do well to take note. | |||
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"I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half. We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too. I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels. The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail. Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules. It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk. Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team. If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had. LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs. Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all. " What a great post you couldn’t sum up the club and staff any better | |||
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"I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half. We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too. I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels. The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail. Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules. It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk. Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team. If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had. LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs. Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all. " | |||
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"I would be quite concerned for your friend if he is unaware of the 4th as a reopening date. It has been spoken about for sometime, the government have often spoken about. Yes this has always been as the earliest possible date, however you'd not be a great business owner at a time when all businesses have been losing money to not be ready for the earliest opening date. It is pretty much an accepted consensus that the hospitality industry will reopen on the 4th. We’ve seen many companies within hospitality promoting this as their reopening date. Our friends who own pubs and restaurants are all ready for the 4th. Are you really saying your friend isn’t? As to the guidance, I’ve just simply googled ‘guidance advice for pubs and restaurants to reopen’ and was given several options for your friend to use. Actually nothing has been confirmed for anybody Hospitality yet. The current government guidelines as stated on their website States no date however they are working towards the 4th for some establishments. An announcement is being made by Boris tomorrow at the daily briefing. So nobody will know anything until tomorrow. " I believe Boris is going mention LeBoudoir specifically at his daily briefing. He will also announce sweeping measures to limit posts from Daily Mail readers on public forums ! | |||
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"I would be quite concerned for your friend if he is unaware of the 4th as a reopening date. It has been spoken about for sometime, the government have often spoken about. Yes this has always been as the earliest possible date, however you'd not be a great business owner at a time when all businesses have been losing money to not be ready for the earliest opening date. It is pretty much an accepted consensus that the hospitality industry will reopen on the 4th. We’ve seen many companies within hospitality promoting this as their reopening date. Our friends who own pubs and restaurants are all ready for the 4th. Are you really saying your friend isn’t? As to the guidance, I’ve just simply googled ‘guidance advice for pubs and restaurants to reopen’ and was given several options for your friend to use. Actually nothing has been confirmed for anybody Hospitality yet. The current government guidelines as stated on their website States no date however they are working towards the 4th for some establishments. An announcement is being made by Boris tomorrow at the daily briefing. So nobody will know anything until tomorrow. I believe Boris is going mention LeBoudoir specifically at his daily briefing. He will also announce sweeping measures to limit posts from Daily Mail readers on public forums !" | |||
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"I would be quite concerned for your friend if he is unaware of the 4th as a reopening date. It has been spoken about for sometime, the government have often spoken about. Yes this has always been as the earliest possible date, however you'd not be a great business owner at a time when all businesses have been losing money to not be ready for the earliest opening date. It is pretty much an accepted consensus that the hospitality industry will reopen on the 4th. We’ve seen many companies within hospitality promoting this as their reopening date. Our friends who own pubs and restaurants are all ready for the 4th. Are you really saying your friend isn’t? As to the guidance, I’ve just simply googled ‘guidance advice for pubs and restaurants to reopen’ and was given several options for your friend to use. Actually nothing has been confirmed for anybody Hospitality yet. The current government guidelines as stated on their website States no date however they are working towards the 4th for some establishments. An announcement is being made by Boris tomorrow at the daily briefing. So nobody will know anything until tomorrow. I believe Boris is going mention LeBoudoir specifically at his daily briefing. He will also announce sweeping measures to limit posts from Daily Mail readers on public forums !" Yet again somebody that can't make a point without being rude Never read the daily mail in my life, Actually where did I say he was gonna specifically mention that club. Any intelligent person knows that it comes under private members/nightclub. I really don't understand the need to try to belittle. | |||
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"Think a few licenced clubs will offer social nights for the likeminded where people can go have a drink and chat freely about the lifestyle without worry of being heard by Jo blogs Clubs don't have to just cater for sex they can be a safe haven for the like minded to discuss and speak freely to people in the scene or friends they have met on the scene" And I'm sure that if they can they will but it all depends on the type of licence they have. | |||
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"Think a few licenced clubs will offer social nights for the likeminded where people can go have a drink and chat freely about the lifestyle without worry of being heard by Jo blogs Clubs don't have to just cater for sex they can be a safe haven for the like minded to discuss and speak freely to people in the scene or friends they have met on the scene" and if this is what clubs have to be for the next few months then i really hope that people do support this!!!! I'd rather clubs didn't go bust and out of business! | |||
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"Hi, Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice. We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline. It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July. People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times. Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun. The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so. have a good day. " Donating the profits of your grand opening party to “NHS Heroes” is an absolute joke. Anyone working in a Covid ward would tell you the utter hypocrisy of running a close, intimate night for our good... it’s utterly insulting. Perhaps take a bit of time to read up on South Korea’s re-opening of their gay district and how a single infectious man transmitted the virus to over 240 known people just by occupying a club and dancing for a few hours. Your website seems to imply playrooms will be open, good luck with sterilising them... it takes us around an hour to sterilise a Covid patients bay after discharge and we’d then quarantine the space before use. If you have a single Infected person engaging in sexual activity in a space in your club any of the transmission models would suggest those using the space afterwards are almost certainly infected regardless of surface cleaning. Your standpoint reads as a horrifically selfish and greedy act if I’m honest. I have every sympathy for club owners and the horrible economics they face but this is peoples lives that your gambling with. I really do applaud the approach of Townhouse, Xtasia, Club Sx etc who have posted honestly as major clubs on here. All have continued to show a very selfless and considered approach to the pandemic. I can assure you any NHS hero would take their approach over your cash with complimentary patient supply any day of the week. | |||
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"I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half. We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too. I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels. The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail. Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules. It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk. Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team. If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had. LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs. Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all. " Pretty much sums up our feelings on this Be back supporting LB team and having fun as soon as we feel comfortable | |||
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"Hi, Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice. We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline. It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July. People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times. Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun. The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so. have a good day. Donating the profits of your grand opening party to “NHS Heroes” is an absolute joke. Anyone working in a Covid ward would tell you the utter hypocrisy of running a close, intimate night for our good... it’s utterly insulting. Perhaps take a bit of time to read up on South Korea’s re-opening of their gay district and how a single infectious man transmitted the virus to over 240 known people just by occupying a club and dancing for a few hours. Your website seems to imply playrooms will be open, good luck with sterilising them... it takes us around an hour to sterilise a Covid patients bay after discharge and we’d then quarantine the space before use. If you have a single Infected person engaging in sexual activity in a space in your club any of the transmission models would suggest those using the space afterwards are almost certainly infected regardless of surface cleaning. Your standpoint reads as a horrifically selfish and greedy act if I’m honest. I have every sympathy for club owners and the horrible economics they face but this is peoples lives that your gambling with. I really do applaud the approach of Townhouse, Xtasia, Club Sx etc who have posted honestly as major clubs on here. All have continued to show a very selfless and considered approach to the pandemic. I can assure you any NHS hero would take their approach over your cash with complimentary patient supply any day of the week. " Well said | |||
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"Hi, Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice. We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline. It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July. People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times. Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun. The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so. have a good day. Donating the profits of your grand opening party to “NHS Heroes” is an absolute joke. Anyone working in a Covid ward would tell you the utter hypocrisy of running a close, intimate night for our good... it’s utterly insulting. Perhaps take a bit of time to read up on South Korea’s re-opening of their gay district and how a single infectious man transmitted the virus to over 240 known people just by occupying a club and dancing for a few hours. Your website seems to imply playrooms will be open, good luck with sterilising them... it takes us around an hour to sterilise a Covid patients bay after discharge and we’d then quarantine the space before use. If you have a single Infected person engaging in sexual activity in a space in your club any of the transmission models would suggest those using the space afterwards are almost certainly infected regardless of surface cleaning. Your standpoint reads as a horrifically selfish and greedy act if I’m honest. I have every sympathy for club owners and the horrible economics they face but this is peoples lives that your gambling with. I really do applaud the approach of Townhouse, Xtasia, Club Sx etc who have posted honestly as major clubs on here. All have continued to show a very selfless and considered approach to the pandemic. I can assure you any NHS hero would take their approach over your cash with complimentary patient supply any day of the week. " Xtasia opening...... https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/1035815 | |||
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"Hi, Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice. We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline. It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July. People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times. Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun. The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so. have a good day. Donating the profits of your grand opening party to “NHS Heroes” is an absolute joke. Anyone working in a Covid ward would tell you the utter hypocrisy of running a close, intimate night for our good... it’s utterly insulting. Perhaps take a bit of time to read up on South Korea’s re-opening of their gay district and how a single infectious man transmitted the virus to over 240 known people just by occupying a club and dancing for a few hours. Your website seems to imply playrooms will be open, good luck with sterilising them... it takes us around an hour to sterilise a Covid patients bay after discharge and we’d then quarantine the space before use. If you have a single Infected person engaging in sexual activity in a space in your club any of the transmission models would suggest those using the space afterwards are almost certainly infected regardless of surface cleaning. Your standpoint reads as a horrifically selfish and greedy act if I’m honest. I have every sympathy for club owners and the horrible economics they face but this is peoples lives that your gambling with. I really do applaud the approach of Townhouse, Xtasia, Club Sx etc who have posted honestly as major clubs on here. All have continued to show a very selfless and considered approach to the pandemic. I can assure you any NHS hero would take their approach over your cash with complimentary patient supply any day of the week. Xtasia opening...... https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/1035815" Le Boudoir are the only club (so far) opening for any type of sexual activity - they have confirmed on their profile they are open for couples and singles who have formed genuine support bubbles and their “ancillary floors” will be open and sanitised daily. All other clubs are either remaining closed or opening purely as a pub / bar with their playrooms remaining closed. | |||
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"Hi, Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice. We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline. It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July. People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times. Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun. The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so. have a good day. Donating the profits of your grand opening party to “NHS Heroes” is an absolute joke. Anyone working in a Covid ward would tell you the utter hypocrisy of running a close, intimate night for our good... it’s utterly insulting. Perhaps take a bit of time to read up on South Korea’s re-opening of their gay district and how a single infectious man transmitted the virus to over 240 known people just by occupying a club and dancing for a few hours. Your website seems to imply playrooms will be open, good luck with sterilising them... it takes us around an hour to sterilise a Covid patients bay after discharge and we’d then quarantine the space before use. If you have a single Infected person engaging in sexual activity in a space in your club any of the transmission models would suggest those using the space afterwards are almost certainly infected regardless of surface cleaning. Your standpoint reads as a horrifically selfish and greedy act if I’m honest. I have every sympathy for club owners and the horrible economics they face but this is peoples lives that your gambling with. I really do applaud the approach of Townhouse, Xtasia, Club Sx etc who have posted honestly as major clubs on here. All have continued to show a very selfless and considered approach to the pandemic. I can assure you any NHS hero would take their approach over your cash with complimentary patient supply any day of the week. Xtasia opening...... https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/1035815 Le Boudoir are the only club (so far) opening for any type of sexual activity - they have confirmed on their profile they are open for couples and singles who have formed genuine support bubbles and their “ancillary floors” will be open and sanitised daily. All other clubs are either remaining closed or opening purely as a pub / bar with their playrooms remaining closed. " And how does the club know who is in what bubble. Answer they don’t. | |||
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"Hi, Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice. We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline. It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July. People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times. Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun. The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so. have a good day. Donating the profits of your grand opening party to “NHS Heroes” is an absolute joke. Anyone working in a Covid ward would tell you the utter hypocrisy of running a close, intimate night for our good... it’s utterly insulting. Perhaps take a bit of time to read up on South Korea’s re-opening of their gay district and how a single infectious man transmitted the virus to over 240 known people just by occupying a club and dancing for a few hours. Your website seems to imply playrooms will be open, good luck with sterilising them... it takes us around an hour to sterilise a Covid patients bay after discharge and we’d then quarantine the space before use. If you have a single Infected person engaging in sexual activity in a space in your club any of the transmission models would suggest those using the space afterwards are almost certainly infected regardless of surface cleaning. Your standpoint reads as a horrifically selfish and greedy act if I’m honest. I have every sympathy for club owners and the horrible economics they face but this is peoples lives that your gambling with. I really do applaud the approach of Townhouse, Xtasia, Club Sx etc who have posted honestly as major clubs on here. All have continued to show a very selfless and considered approach to the pandemic. I can assure you any NHS hero would take their approach over your cash with complimentary patient supply any day of the week. Xtasia opening...... https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/1035815 Le Boudoir are the only club (so far) opening for any type of sexual activity - they have confirmed on their profile they are open for couples and singles who have formed genuine support bubbles and their “ancillary floors” will be open and sanitised daily. All other clubs are either remaining closed or opening purely as a pub / bar with their playrooms remaining closed. And how does the club know who is in what bubble. Answer they don’t. " I suppose it's like BoJo asking the Great British public to 'do the right thing'? The lockdown relied on people adherring to rules and guidelines. Same thing here maybe? If it's good for the government......? Just thinking out loud xxxx | |||
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"People can be fined for breaking lockdown rules" Most don't judging by the parties all over Liverpool over the last 14 weeks hahaha | |||
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"and here we go with the "wagon circling".... its like if anyone debates the situation everyone comes in to defend the club!!!!! as someone else says... it really doesn't matter what part of the country people come from, because in England everyone is basically going to have to operate at this time under the same set of guideline!!! I am sure LB is a fine run club... but unless they have found a loophole that no other swinging club have, I don't see how they can operate as a swinging club... if they have a drinks licence, they sure they could operate as a bar, and god bless then for doing that and being able to survive and if clubs can do this then brilliant! but that bar licence is still going to have limitations with means the "play" element is not going to included within licences clubs for the time being are going to be "social only" venues.. i don't see how a swinging club can justify close quarter contact when nightclubs are still going to closed and threatres and concert venues are not going to be allowed live proformances " To be honest I rather go to LB just for a drink and a chat than any other pub. At least there you can dress properly and be surrounded by sexy guests rather than d*unk blokes only interested in football. If they can open good for them and finally something to do during the weekend nights! | |||
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"Will the hotels be open? We have to overnight for a visit to LBD. Would love to go, but are thinking it should be exhibitionist/voyeur for now. " Hotels will be open but they are booking up fassst. The website says rooms will be sectioned off. Which kind of feels like you can only meet limited people in your area. But I'm glad they're making a start. This business needs to survive for the sake of England | |||
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"We're members and had the email.. By law they can't open any play areas or showers or anything spa related... All that can be done is a social gathering at a distance of atleast a metre apart... People attending expecting to see or get involved in any sort of play will be disappointed, if the club does any of this then they will be shut down and possibly fines will be made, it's rather sneaky on the clubs part as they haven't told members they are paying full price for a social, they have also said as long as your in your bubble your be fine, absolutely ridiculous.. No sexual activity means no sexual contact if your in a bubble or not.. Good luck to the club as its sold out already but this could end badly for them" Wow. If this is true it will be seriously bad PR | |||
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"We're members and had the email.. By law they can't open any play areas or showers or anything spa related... All that can be done is a social gathering at a distance of atleast a metre apart... People attending expecting to see or get involved in any sort of play will be disappointed, if the club does any of this then they will be shut down and possibly fines will be made, it's rather sneaky on the clubs part as they haven't told members they are paying full price for a social, they have also said as long as your in your bubble your be fine, absolutely ridiculous.. No sexual activity means no sexual contact if your in a bubble or not.. Good luck to the club as its sold out already but this could end badly for them Wow. If this is true it will be seriously bad PR" Who knew Fab had do many legal experts? All speculating this and that and one really special single male who hopes it goes bankrupt! - that's a really constructive and factually based comment isn't it! Stop guessing people, it's pure FAKE NEWS! What does all the negativity really achieve? At this time, more than ever since WW2, we need postive energy and go getters. Do you actually get off on being negative towards others? I and 3000 colleague's, just lost our jobs with Virgin, the country is in the crapper, socially and financially and all some of you can do is hope another one fails too. Seriously, unless you're all barristers - which would make this forum Hansard - you are all just guessing! You interpret the guidance one way, the next person interprets it another way. If there is a second spike, it will because of the 10000s going to the beach or illegal raves, or when you climb over each other at the supermarket to get to the bananas first! There are a thousand more risky things we all do daily, than than 20-30 people going to a lifestyle venue. If any of the clubs reopening have to close again in the future, it doesn't mean they were wrong to do so now. I personally applaud every pub, bar and restaurant that is trying to restart at this time. You should too. | |||
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"We're members and had the email.. By law they can't open any play areas or showers or anything spa related... All that can be done is a social gathering at a distance of atleast a metre apart... People attending expecting to see or get involved in any sort of play will be disappointed, if the club does any of this then they will be shut down and possibly fines will be made, it's rather sneaky on the clubs part as they haven't told members they are paying full price for a social, they have also said as long as your in your bubble your be fine, absolutely ridiculous.. No sexual activity means no sexual contact if your in a bubble or not.. Good luck to the club as its sold out already but this could end badly for them Wow. If this is true it will be seriously bad PR Who knew Fab had do many legal experts? All speculating this and that and one really special single male who hopes it goes bankrupt! - that's a really constructive and factually based comment isn't it! Stop guessing people, it's pure FAKE NEWS! What does all the negativity really achieve? At this time, more than ever since WW2, we need postive energy and go getters. Do you actually get off on being negative towards others? I and 3000 colleague's, just lost our jobs with Virgin, the country is in the crapper, socially and financially and all some of you can do is hope another one fails too. Seriously, unless you're all barristers - which would make this forum Hansard - you are all just guessing! You interpret the guidance one way, the next person interprets it another way. If there is a second spike, it will because of the 10000s going to the beach or illegal raves, or when you climb over each other at the supermarket to get to the bananas first! There are a thousand more risky things we all do daily, than than 20-30 people going to a lifestyle venue. If any of the clubs reopening have to close again in the future, it doesn't mean they were wrong to do so now. I personally applaud every pub, bar and restaurant that is trying to restart at this time. You should too. " Could you tell me what is more riskey than going to a club where they are allowing sexual play? Other clubs have made it clear what the rules are where is the website for this club hasn't. | |||
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"Are you even a member of LB? Just wondering what motivates you to try to run the club down all the time? Did they knock you back? What's your definition of sexual play? Because I dont see how you can actually have any idea of what will and won't be allowed when it reopens. You're just venting! They made it very, very clear in there correspondence to members what the parameters for opening are. I'm in no doubt. But, I also don't think they have any requirement to justify themselves to kangaroo court jurors on fab. I refer to my previous post. What energises your negativity? It must be horrible to be this way all the time. " I'm not running any club down the people that go to this club are showing themselves up by their nastiness. It's not a kangaroo court its actually the law and as a member of the swinging community and a member of this sites I would like to believe that clubs are sticking to the law. negativity from anybody except the people like yourself that feel the need to run others down because they dare to have an opinion. There is absolutely no need for you to be personal and make a asumption's this is a public forum and I will post if I wish to. I have been able to have an opinion and voice it without being personal or nasty please Grant me the same courtesy. | |||
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"Also, I asked you what your definition of sexual play is. In case your definition is not what's on the table at LB, but, you seem to have swerved that. Can you help me out? Thanks " Anything but isn't a metre apart is against the law so I don't need to give you a definition. | |||
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"You assume then that play is multiple people at any one time? What if its just an exhibitionist couple playing on their own? With anyone else at least 1m, maybe 2m away. Is that illegal? " No you are making assumptions at no point did I say that. No close contact is allowed, Why do you think gyms, spa's ect are not allowed to open. So what I have been saying all along is absolutely right. No other club is opening their play rooms,if they were able to do this do you not think they would? | |||
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"I wasn't personal, you choose to take it personally. And the law is far from clear. That's why people often do need a degree to represent it. Seriously, I'm not having a pop at you. But, I challenge remarks that have no foundation. Mental health is going to be an enormous issue arising from Covid. Way beyond anyone who does or does not choose to go to a swingers club. " I'm not sure how mental health is relevant to this discussion to be honest. The law is clear! No activity should take place where it is possible for spread of the virus, Unless the playrooms are being completely sanitised then I would say this would fall outside of that. No showers or changing rooms are allowed to open so I really don't understand how hygiene standards can be kept up. I have no agenda, I wish LB like all other clubs every success as we have already lost Cupids to this. I Just want it done safely and the health of every member of the community to be put first. | |||
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"That's the whole point!!!! It is you (and others - so you don't wrongly accuse me of being personal again) who is making assumptions. So many comments about what's lawful and what's not. All making assumptions about what will be going on at LB. But you don't know. Do you? OK, scenario. A couple, locked down for 3 months with kids at home are desperate for some excitement. They go to LB on the 4 July. She wears her lingerie - can't do that at the local pub, dances a little to the slow, sexy, music - rather than the trash metal in the boozer, and they decide to go to LBs dungeon where they proceed to enjoy the use of the spanking bench - also unlikely to be found in their local pub. No one else joins in with them. In fact no one comrs within a metre of them. Which part of that is still illegal? I just wish I was in a relationship and could go! " And herein lies the problem. Firstly dancing is not allowed in any venue or any live music including djs. Absolutely nobody has a problem with somebody going to a club and them wearing lingerie what is a problem is people playing inside that club. Whether that is with their partner is beside the point. I have made no asumption's. I have simply stated that if any club allows people to play inside its venue it is breaking the law. | |||
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"Also, I asked you what your definition of sexual play is. In case your definition is not what's on the table at LB, but, you seem to have swerved that. Can you help me out? Thanks " actually the way it has been defined by the government in the advice they have given is "very close quarter contact"... which is why they have still closed nightclubs spas and indoor gyms, and theatres can concert venues to live proformances... now, i would love to give the benefit of the doubt.... but i don't see how they are going to get around that! good luck with the bar with social distancing bit..... but they are really pushing the guidelines if any play is invvolved | |||
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"That's the whole point!!!! It is you (and others - so you don't wrongly accuse me of being personal again) who is making assumptions. So many comments about what's lawful and what's not. All making assumptions about what will be going on at LB. But you don't know. Do you? OK, scenario. A couple, locked down for 3 months with kids at home are desperate for some excitement. They go to LB on the 4 July. She wears her lingerie - can't do that at the local pub, dances a little to the slow, sexy, music - rather than the trash metal in the boozer, and they decide to go to LBs dungeon where they proceed to enjoy the use of the spanking bench - also unlikely to be found in their local pub. No one else joins in with them. In fact no one comrs within a metre of them. Which part of that is still illegal? I just wish I was in a relationship and could go! " If you are such an 'expert', you would know that there is no music allowed at pubs etc | |||
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"Lol no knickers twisted.. Just stating what's what.. Yet you get the so called expert chime in.. Who apparently has been to evey club worldwide yet doesn't have a single verification lol.. And not been seen for 3 years lol.. " Exactly - some expert! | |||
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" Really boring here but as it’s my field of work I thought I’d mention it It is all “guidance “ — it is not a legal instruction " Ha ha, thanks for that! The amount of times the word "illegal" or against the low is mentioned on this forums is laughable. | |||
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"Yea it's guidance.. Then why don't the gyms or cinemas or clubs open up then " Cinemas can open from 4th July | |||
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"Music is allowed in pubs. Just thought I’d mention it so you can keep up the wealth of knowledge you seem to have over everyone. The rule is ‘no loud music’. So people don’t need to shout. Hope you have a good weekend. " I bow to your superior knowledge as no duo bar you have your definition of 'loud'. | |||
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"I have just had a look at their website and whilst I couldn’t see the price for the event on 4th July I did see something saying profits would be donated to the NHS " On their website it says 4th July is £70 per couple. | |||
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"Exactly.. Look I'm all for clubs re opening we attend a few ourselves and would of gone fof had it not been cancelled... What I'm saying is.. Every club that is reopening has specifically stated no play.. No play rooms... And so on.. As your not getting the full benefits of a swingers club your just getting the basics of a normal bar they have all slashed there entrance fee's... The only club that I know of that is charging full price is L. B... if ppl want to pay then great.. But they haven't stated social only.. In fact they have sort of said you can play but only in bubbles.. Law, guidance or whatever you wanna call it. " , So if it's only guidance, they aren't breaking any laws. Guess it's up to the individuals, to assess their own risk, like it is with any situation we choose to be in, pubs, travelling etc | |||
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" It's up to the individuals, to assess their own risk, like it is with any situation we choose to be in, pubs, travelling etc" Firmly believe most of the people are not imbeciles, and are perfectly able to assess the risc they are taking with anything in life, and should be left to do whatever they feel is right for them, without being looked at like a mass murderers. | |||
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" It's up to the individuals, to assess their own risk, like it is with any situation we choose to be in, pubs, travelling etc Firmly believe most of the people are not imbeciles, and are perfectly able to assess the risc they are taking with anything in life, and should be left to do whatever they feel is right for them, without being looked at like a mass murderers. " , Have to agree.These things can't be policed, which I guess is why they have changed it to 'guidelines'. I'm looking after me and my family now, by not going to clubs,pubs,beaches etc we can do no more. | |||
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" We absolutely agree with peoples right to go or not go — but here’s the question If a swingers club opened tonight and opened as they used to - Including the right to play — and took some reasonable precautions - like a temperature scanner on entry and took people’s contact details Would you go and would you play - shoot us down but we would No real difference to the thousands on Bournemouth beach when u think about it ." No we wouldn't | |||
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" We absolutely agree with peoples right to go or not go — but here’s the question If a swingers club opened tonight and opened as they used to - Including the right to play — and took some reasonable precautions - like a temperature scanner on entry and took people’s contact details Would you go and would you play - shoot us down but we would No real difference to the thousands on Bournemouth beach when u think about it ." Actually it’s a massive difference... an infected person playing, breath hard etc in an internal space is a perfect storm for infecting others. The same person on a beach is a dramatically reduced risk in comparison. | |||
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"No more than 2 people at the bar at once. No lingering at the bar. Only allowed to leave your table to go to the loo or bar. " I thought no one could go to the bar and it must be table service. | |||
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"No more than 2 people at the bar at once. No lingering at the bar. Only allowed to leave your table to go to the loo or bar. I thought no one could go to the bar and it must be table service. " Me too | |||
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"No more than 2 people at the bar at once. No lingering at the bar. Only allowed to leave your table to go to the loo or bar. I thought no one could go to the bar and it must be table service. " It is table service only, well that's what my local pub have said. | |||
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"No more than 2 people at the bar at once. No lingering at the bar. Only allowed to leave your table to go to the loo or bar. I thought no one could go to the bar and it must be table service. It is table service only, well that's what my local pub have said. " . I thought it was part of the guidelines. | |||
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"I have just reread the guidelines and it actually says "table service where possible". Yet another example of the government's vague regulations !" Yes you're right there and applies to most of the guidelines, wording changed from laws/rules to guidelines | |||
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"The 1m+ is most confusing as people now think they only need to stay 1m apart but it is still 2m unless there are masks and perspex screens. " , Yes that one confused me | |||
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"No more than 2 people at the bar at once. No lingering at the bar. Only allowed to leave your table to go to the loo or bar. I thought no one could go to the bar and it must be table service. " Not sure, that’s just what they said | |||
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"We're members and had the email.. By law they can't open any play areas or showers or anything spa related... All that can be done is a social gathering at a distance of atleast a metre apart... People attending expecting to see or get involved in any sort of play will be disappointed, if the club does any of this then they will be shut down and possibly fines will be made, it's rather sneaky on the clubs part as they haven't told members they are paying full price for a social, they have also said as long as your in your bubble your be fine, absolutely ridiculous.. No sexual activity means no sexual contact if your in a bubble or not.. Good luck to the club as its sold out already but this could end badly for them Wow. If this is true it will be seriously bad PR Who knew Fab had do many legal experts? All speculating this and that and one really special single male who hopes it goes bankrupt! - that's a really constructive and factually based comment isn't it! Stop guessing people, it's pure FAKE NEWS! What does all the negativity really achieve? At this time, more than ever since WW2, we need postive energy and go getters. Do you actually get off on being negative towards others? I and 3000 colleague's, just lost our jobs with Virgin, the country is in the crapper, socially and financially and all some of you can do is hope another one fails too. Seriously, unless you're all barristers - which would make this forum Hansard - you are all just guessing! You interpret the guidance one way, the next person interprets it another way. If there is a second spike, it will because of the 10000s going to the beach or illegal raves, or when you climb over each other at the supermarket to get to the bananas first! There are a thousand more risky things we all do daily, than than 20-30 people going to a lifestyle venue. If any of the clubs reopening have to close again in the future, it doesn't mean they were wrong to do so now. I personally applaud every pub, bar and restaurant that is trying to restart at this time. You should too. " | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to their Informed opinion and freedom of choice. Latest Covid study in UK: Under-50’s more likely to die from an accident Under-40’s more likely to die in a car crash Under-25’s more likely to die from the flu *Source: University of Cambridge (June 23rd 2020)" and all those people are in danger of passing it on to people who may be a lot my compromised that they are!! i actually don't have any problem with the bar element at all, because we are all going to have to make that decision in regards to bars/cafes/restaurants.... its the playing element that rings so many alarm bells at this point | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to their Informed opinion and freedom of choice. Latest Covid study in UK: Under-50’s more likely to die from an accident Under-40’s more likely to die in a car crash Under-25’s more likely to die from the flu *Source: University of Cambridge (June 23rd 2020)" So people under 50 can behave exactly how they like and if they happen to pass it on to somebody over 50 or vulnerable that's their lookout is it! | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to their Informed opinion and freedom of choice. Latest Covid study in UK: Under-50’s more likely to die from an accident Under-40’s more likely to die in a car crash Under-25’s more likely to die from the flu *Source: University of Cambridge (June 23rd 2020)" Cambridge University is pretty effective in terms of referencing value x | |||
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"I think you’re missing the point about the Cambridge study. It’s taking into account ALL factors such as likelihood of transmission etc. This is about managing risk - the likelihood of contracting Covid (broken down by age group) is LESS than the other life risks mentioned. Google “global road death and serious injury” - that’s huge and not being reported daily, on 24/7 news. I absolutely respect your decision not to attend a club - but please acknowledge others when they weigh up the tiny risk, which currently stands at 0.06%." Well put I’d say x | |||
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