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"So if clubs are off limits for the rest of the year (at least) which seems to be the case, who'd be up for opening their house as a private party venue?? Once lockdown is all over...... " Planning one here! Large isolated house with secluded grounds. And plenty of rooms/ bathrooms And play areas. Date to be announced later in line with government regulations. Pm for details | |||
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"Not a fan of private parties. I’ll wait til clubs are open. First step is getting pubs & restaurants back open, which hopefully can start a week on Monday! " I’m with you on that and had a slight glimmer of hope of getting back to work earlier in the week | |||
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"Not a fan of private parties. I’ll wait til clubs are open. First step is getting pubs & restaurants back open, which hopefully can start a week on Monday! " Sorry to disappoint you but nothing in hospitality is due to reopen til at least 4 July. If we're lucky, non essential shops might reopen in the next stage in just over a week as you've suggested. If we're still meeting all the 5 criteria of course, plus they'll make up some other stuff too no doubt! I'm going to avoid most things til there's a vaccine. Only going to meet one on one with my regular playmate. I'd like my nearest club to survive so I'll get in touch with the owner to see if she can run some online workshops or something so she still has some income from me, but no clubs or parties for me for a long time | |||
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"the big issue with private parties is many who attend expect everyone to play..which is OK if you know them and do connect where as in clubs its as much social as play certainly for us anyway..." | |||
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"the big issue with private parties is many who attend expect everyone to play..which is OK if you know them and do connect where as in clubs its as much social as play certainly for us anyway..." That is far from true. Some house parties are pure play in the same way that some club events are pure play. In general, most house parties are very social with the opportunity to play should you want to. Having been to many, and I mean loads, of house parties and even more club events I can assure you it's true. House parties are associated with the mythical "keys in a bowl" thing (which I've yet to come across) but that couldn't be further from the truth. In fact I know of only one "expected" play party and that's actually more of a club in someone's house. | |||
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"Not a fan of private parties. I’ll wait til clubs are open. First step is getting pubs & restaurants back open, which hopefully can start a week on Monday! Sorry to disappoint you but nothing in hospitality is due to reopen til at least 4 July. If we're lucky, non essential shops might reopen in the next stage in just over a week as you've suggested. If we're still meeting all the 5 criteria of course, plus they'll make up some other stuff too no doubt! I'm going to avoid most things til there's a vaccine. Only going to meet one on one with my regular playmate. I'd like my nearest club to survive so I'll get in touch with the owner to see if she can run some online workshops or something so she still has some income from me, but no clubs or parties for me for a long time" Pubs are already looking to open for takeaway sales. 4th July is for the first ‘on site’ hospitality venues. It’s all baby steps and there are a lot of milestones to pass before we get round to clubs opening. Hopefully, Understanding the value of antibodies & getting viable testing for them in place will be the key to getting things open sooner rather than later! | |||
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"No. Much prefer clubs not an invite only scheme based on the hosts friends/tastes. House parties are good if it's a group of people that all know each other. " That's cause ur barred from all your friends houses for growling lol | |||
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"Agree larger clubs could do this even with restrictions Not everyone visits a club purely to play Be nice just to chill n have a drink" | |||
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"Not a fan of private parties. I’ll wait til clubs are open. First step is getting pubs & restaurants back open, which hopefully can start a week on Monday! " this for me too | |||
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"the big issue with private parties is many who attend expect everyone to play..which is OK if you know them and do connect where as in clubs its as much social as play certainly for us anyway..." This | |||
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"? Can anyone explain the difference between a volume of people who may or may not know each other meeting at a “house” than a volume of people meeting at a club ? Or is the risk somehow different. " One is licensed and the other isn't. | |||
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"? Can anyone explain the difference between a volume of people who may or may not know each other meeting at a “house” than a volume of people meeting at a club ? Or is the risk somehow different. One is licensed and the other isn't." A licence doesn't increase or decrease risk | |||
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"No. Much prefer clubs not an invite only scheme based on the hosts friends/tastes. House parties are good if it's a group of people that all know each other. That's cause ur barred from all your friends houses for growling lol" Shouldn't steal my food | |||
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"? Can anyone explain the difference between a volume of people who may or may not know each other meeting at a “house” than a volume of people meeting at a club ? Or is the risk somehow different. " The difference will be one can only happen when the government allows it or risk losing their license... I guess. | |||
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"? Can anyone explain the difference between a volume of people who may or may not know each other meeting at a “house” than a volume of people meeting at a club ? Or is the risk somehow different. One is licensed and the other isn't. A licence doesn't increase or decrease risk" Youre absolutely right but that doesn't change my point. | |||
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"? Can anyone explain the difference between a volume of people who may or may not know each other meeting at a “house” than a volume of people meeting at a club ? Or is the risk somehow different. One is licensed and the other isn't. A licence doesn't increase or decrease risk Youre absolutely right but that doesn't change my point." Sadly “irony” has been missed - my apologies. | |||
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"I’ve not been to one house party that I’ve really liked If I’m honest All seem a bit staged and slightly pressurised Club scene is more my thing by far If there’s no one that that takes your fancy you can still find plenty of people to socialise with Will be holding out for them to reopen again " | |||
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"Seems an awful lot of negativity being expressed here. As clubs obviously have a larger number of attendees, obviously any risk of infections would be increased? I thought the idea of a house party would be more appealing as for obvious reasons numbers would be far more limited? " Oh lord - risk calculations based on what ? You either accept the risk of meeting strangers or you don’t | |||
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"Seems an awful lot of negativity being expressed here. As clubs obviously have a larger number of attendees, obviously any risk of infections would be increased? I thought the idea of a house party would be more appealing as for obvious reasons numbers would be far more limited? Oh lord - risk calculations based on what ? You either accept the risk of meeting strangers or you don’t " Well he has a point to a certain extent the fewer people you meet the lower the passing on of infection rate, might not be totally sensible thinking as any meets in large groups is dangerous | |||
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"Seems an awful lot of negativity being expressed here. As clubs obviously have a larger number of attendees, obviously any risk of infections would be increased? I thought the idea of a house party would be more appealing as for obvious reasons numbers would be far more limited? Oh lord - risk calculations based on what ? You either accept the risk of meeting strangers or you don’t " I am in the unusual position of agreeing with Bruce Private party or club you have no idea of the contacts people have had with others even if you trust them or not! With still 6000 plus new cases a day clubs or private parties are dangerous especially if alcohol is involved. Kid yourselves on social distancing if you want but private parties are just as dangerous as a club would be at this time. Paul | |||
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"Seems an awful lot of negativity being expressed here. As clubs obviously have a larger number of attendees, obviously any risk of infections would be increased? I thought the idea of a house party would be more appealing as for obvious reasons numbers would be far more limited? Oh lord - risk calculations based on what ? You either accept the risk of meeting strangers or you don’t I am in the unusual position of agreeing with Bruce Private party or club you have no idea of the contacts people have had with others even if you trust them or not! With still 6000 plus new cases a day clubs or private parties are dangerous especially if alcohol is involved. Kid yourselves on social distancing if you want but private parties are just as dangerous as a club would be at this time. Paul " Absolutely spot on. 50000 infections a week but so many deluded people on here saying they 'can't wait until lockdown is over' ! | |||
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"So if clubs are off limits for the rest of the year (at least) which seems to be the case, who'd be up for opening their house as a private party venue?? Once lockdown is all over...... " The clubs will probably remain closed for a while longer than other pubs and bars and for good reason. So how is having house parties a sensible alternative? Good luck in explaining the difference while still hanging on to some common sense | |||
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"I think opening club's if only for social meeting is the way forward. " I agree, it will keep our clubs going | |||
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"I think opening club's if only for social meeting is the way forward. I agree, it will keep our clubs going" Some clubs could open as a bar if they are big enough for sure. Others couldn't with social distancing and reduced capacity due to their shape and size. It needs to be financially viable to open. Clubs like Xtasia will be brilliant for social events as it's massive but we would struggle with 2 metre distancing. | |||
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"The problem with the c19 “laws” such sex with someone you don’t live with is :- 1 many laws are left in the statute & NEVER repealed 2 so if you fiancée lives outside your household it’s now ILLEGAL to make love or have sexual contact 3 book into a hotel with your partner / not married & don’t live together 4 how does one define - two teenagers kissing on a park bench is that sexual activity now & so many variables where the police have powers that in my opinion they simply shouldn’t have & probably don’t want. Putting clubs or house parties aside. These LAWS are invasive - against basis human rights & a power grab. They may never be appealed behind the containment of this virus. STUPIDITY. " Agreed. Brits are doing what they want anyway now, so I'd like to see our understaffed and demoralised police trying to enforce these 'laws'. Out of everything that has come from Covid, this latest announcement has been, by far, the most riduculous and unenforceable of them all!!! | |||
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"Agreed. Brits are doing what they want anyway now, so I'd like to see our understaffed and demoralised police trying to enforce these 'laws'. Out of everything that has come from Covid, this latest announcement has been, by far, the most riduculous and unenforceable of them all!!!" Totally agree it’s a ludicrous situation and in reality will give swinging even more negative press that it has already. The government could be concentrating on more enforceable and constructive measures than this latest farce. | |||
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"The problem with the c19 “laws” such sex with someone you don’t live with is :- 1 many laws are left in the statute & NEVER repealed 2 so if you fiancée lives outside your household it’s now ILLEGAL to make love or have sexual contact 3 book into a hotel with your partner / not married & don’t live together 4 how does one define - two teenagers kissing on a park bench is that sexual activity now & so many variables where the police have powers that in my opinion they simply shouldn’t have & probably don’t want. Putting clubs or house parties aside. These LAWS are invasive - against basis human rights & a power grab. They may never be appealed behind the containment of this virus. STUPIDITY. Agreed. Brits are doing what they want anyway now, so I'd like to see our understaffed and demoralised police trying to enforce these 'laws'. Out of everything that has come from Covid, this latest announcement has been, by far, the most riduculous and unenforceable of them all!!!" Two key words there about the police service in the UK “understaffed and demoralised”. They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t - always the first target of public frustration - trying to interpret/enforce laws that they themselves may find unworkable or ill advised. It’s always the “police’s fault” - never the government , prosecution service etc etc. The media seldom seem to praise the emergency services - and if they do it seems as though they are just looking to put them on a “pedestal” so they can then knock them off again. Less than a year ago the country was outraged by the death of a young policeman who had only been married a couple of weeks - run over trying to do his job and stop thieves. I agree with Bruce as well that the police probably don’t want to have to enforce these laws which have come in with what appears to be very little thought or consultation, and are no doubt hoping that they’ll be repealed as soon as possible. | |||
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"The problem with the c19 “laws” such sex with someone you don’t live with is :- 1 many laws are left in the statute & NEVER repealed 2 so if you fiancée lives outside your household it’s now ILLEGAL to make love or have sexual contact 3 book into a hotel with your partner / not married & don’t live together 4 how does one define - two teenagers kissing on a park bench is that sexual activity now & so many variables where the police have powers that in my opinion they simply shouldn’t have & probably don’t want. Putting clubs or house parties aside. These LAWS are invasive - against basis human rights & a power grab. They may never be appealed behind the containment of this virus. STUPIDITY. Agreed. Brits are doing what they want anyway now, so I'd like to see our understaffed and demoralised police trying to enforce these 'laws'. Out of everything that has come from Covid, this latest announcement has been, by far, the most riduculous and unenforceable of them all!!! Two key words there about the police service in the UK “understaffed and demoralised”. They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t - always the first target of public frustration - trying to interpret/enforce laws that they themselves may find unworkable or ill advised. It’s always the “police’s fault” - never the government , prosecution service etc etc. The media seldom seem to praise the emergency services - and if they do it seems as though they are just looking to put them on a “pedestal” so they can then knock them off again. Less than a year ago the country was outraged by the death of a young policeman who had only been married a couple of weeks - run over trying to do his job and stop thieves. I agree with Bruce as well that the police probably don’t want to have to enforce these laws which have come in with what appears to be very little thought or consultation, and are no doubt hoping that they’ll be repealed as soon as possible." Police have a thankless job!!! | |||
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"The problem with the c19 “laws” such sex with someone you don’t live with is :- 1 many laws are left in the statute & NEVER repealed 2 so if you fiancée lives outside your household it’s now ILLEGAL to make love or have sexual contact 3 book into a hotel with your partner / not married & don’t live together 4 how does one define - two teenagers kissing on a park bench is that sexual activity now & so many variables where the police have powers that in my opinion they simply shouldn’t have & probably don’t want. Putting clubs or house parties aside. These LAWS are invasive - against basis human rights & a power grab. They may never be appealed behind the containment of this virus. STUPIDITY. Agreed. Brits are doing what they want anyway now, so I'd like to see our understaffed and demoralised police trying to enforce these 'laws'. Out of everything that has come from Covid, this latest announcement has been, by far, the most riduculous and unenforceable of them all!!! Two key words there about the police service in the UK “understaffed and demoralised”. They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t - always the first target of public frustration - trying to interpret/enforce laws that they themselves may find unworkable or ill advised. It’s always the “police’s fault” - never the government , prosecution service etc etc. The media seldom seem to praise the emergency services - and if they do it seems as though they are just looking to put them on a “pedestal” so they can then knock them off again. Less than a year ago the country was outraged by the death of a young policeman who had only been married a couple of weeks - run over trying to do his job and stop thieves. I agree with Bruce as well that the police probably don’t want to have to enforce these laws which have come in with what appears to be very little thought or consultation, and are no doubt hoping that they’ll be repealed as soon as possible. Police have a thankless job!!!" They do indeed & now they have been put in an impossible situation. To enforce the unenforcible, to spy on people’s private lives (including their own colleagues & families). These are powers laid in law. Anyways onwards & upwards. | |||
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"The problem with the c19 “laws” such sex with someone you don’t live with is :- 1 many laws are left in the statute & NEVER repealed 2 so if you fiancée lives outside your household it’s now ILLEGAL to make love or have sexual contact 3 book into a hotel with your partner / not married & don’t live together 4 how does one define - two teenagers kissing on a park bench is that sexual activity now & so many variables where the police have powers that in my opinion they simply shouldn’t have & probably don’t want. Putting clubs or house parties aside. These LAWS are invasive - against basis human rights & a power grab. They may never be appealed behind the containment of this virus. STUPIDITY. Agreed. Brits are doing what they want anyway now, so I'd like to see our understaffed and demoralised police trying to enforce these 'laws'. Out of everything that has come from Covid, this latest announcement has been, by far, the most riduculous and unenforceable of them all!!! Two key words there about the police service in the UK “understaffed and demoralised”. They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t - always the first target of public frustration - trying to interpret/enforce laws that they themselves may find unworkable or ill advised. It’s always the “police’s fault” - never the government , prosecution service etc etc. The media seldom seem to praise the emergency services - and if they do it seems as though they are just looking to put them on a “pedestal” so they can then knock them off again. Less than a year ago the country was outraged by the death of a young policeman who had only been married a couple of weeks - run over trying to do his job and stop thieves. I agree with Bruce as well that the police probably don’t want to have to enforce these laws which have come in with what appears to be very little thought or consultation, and are no doubt hoping that they’ll be repealed as soon as possible. Police have a thankless job!!!" | |||
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"Not a fan of private house parties. I (mrs here) am just going to wait for clubs to reopen once they feel it is safe to do so... until then im shagging me fella only I agree with the issue on private parties expecting everyone to play, even if i knew everyone i would hate the expectation. At clubs i more prefer the social aspect and if i really am in the mood ill play. " Same here and sometimes the hosts think they are entitled to plays because you are in their house .I enjoy to be able to relax and decide ! X | |||
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"the big issue with private parties is many who attend expect everyone to play..which is OK if you know them and do connect where as in clubs its as much social as play certainly for us anyway..." I was just saying this to a friend yesterday. I don't attend house parties for that reason. | |||
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"? Can anyone explain the difference between a volume of people who may or may not know each other meeting at a “house” than a volume of people meeting at a club ? Or is the risk somehow different. " Both are a fairly reckless concept, the nature of the hobby means anyone attending an event with someone carrying the virus is very likely to be infected even if they avoid direct contact with that person. The only slight difference in risk is the chance of the virus being picked up at a club from infectious particles from ‘previous events’. Sanitising a space is a monumental task, not one any club or household is going to be able to do properly without professional help and equipment. If the space has carpets, material covered furniture etc... really it’s a case of cleaning the space and locking it off for weeks whilst nature does its work in killing the matter. | |||
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"I absolutely disagree with some of you regarding house parties because I have both been to them as an invitee and as a host. And while there was certainly a lot of no-holds-barred sex, nobody was expected to play. People were as welcome to socialise with each other as they were to play. If anybody goes to a house party and they feel EXPECTED to play, somebody is not doing something right." In my experience the problem arises when too few people turn up. Then the onus is on the ones that are there to join in. | |||
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"The problem with the c19 “laws” such sex with someone you don’t live with is :- 1 many laws are left in the statute & NEVER repealed 2 so if you fiancée lives outside your household it’s now ILLEGAL to make love or have sexual contact 3 book into a hotel with your partner / not married & don’t live together 4 how does one define - two teenagers kissing on a park bench is that sexual activity now & so many variables where the police have powers that in my opinion they simply shouldn’t have & probably don’t want. Putting clubs or house parties aside. These LAWS are invasive - against basis human rights & a power grab. They may never be appealed behind the containment of this virus. STUPIDITY. Agreed. Brits are doing what they want anyway now, so I'd like to see our understaffed and demoralised police trying to enforce these 'laws'. Out of everything that has come from Covid, this latest announcement has been, by far, the most riduculous and unenforceable of them all!!! Two key words there about the police service in the UK “understaffed and demoralised”. They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t - always the first target of public frustration - trying to interpret/enforce laws that they themselves may find unworkable or ill advised. It’s always the “police’s fault” - never the government , prosecution service etc etc. The media seldom seem to praise the emergency services - and if they do it seems as though they are just looking to put them on a “pedestal” so they can then knock them off again. Less than a year ago the country was outraged by the death of a young policeman who had only been married a couple of weeks - run over trying to do his job and stop thieves. I agree with Bruce as well that the police probably don’t want to have to enforce these laws which have come in with what appears to be very little thought or consultation, and are no doubt hoping that they’ll be repealed as soon as possible." Totally agree. I can categorically state that every single cop below a certain rank has no interest or desire in enforcing half of the Covid laws, especially one so Invasive. | |||
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"The problem with the c19 “laws” such sex with someone you don’t live with is :- 1 many laws are left in the statute & NEVER repealed 2 so if you fiancée lives outside your household it’s now ILLEGAL to make love or have sexual contact 3 book into a hotel with your partner / not married & don’t live together 4 how does one define - two teenagers kissing on a park bench is that sexual activity now & so many variables where the police have powers that in my opinion they simply shouldn’t have & probably don’t want. Putting clubs or house parties aside. These LAWS are invasive - against basis human rights & a power grab. They may never be appealed behind the containment of this virus. STUPIDITY. Agreed. Brits are doing what they want anyway now, so I'd like to see our understaffed and demoralised police trying to enforce these 'laws'. Out of everything that has come from Covid, this latest announcement has been, by far, the most riduculous and unenforceable of them all!!! Two key words there about the police service in the UK “understaffed and demoralised”. They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t - always the first target of public frustration - trying to interpret/enforce laws that they themselves may find unworkable or ill advised. It’s always the “police’s fault” - never the government , prosecution service etc etc. The media seldom seem to praise the emergency services - and if they do it seems as though they are just looking to put them on a “pedestal” so they can then knock them off again. Less than a year ago the country was outraged by the death of a young policeman who had only been married a couple of weeks - run over trying to do his job and stop thieves. I agree with Bruce as well that the police probably don’t want to have to enforce these laws which have come in with what appears to be very little thought or consultation, and are no doubt hoping that they’ll be repealed as soon as possible. Totally agree. I can categorically state that every single cop below a certain rank has no interest or desire in enforcing half of the Covid laws, especially one so Invasive. " My friends tell me that they dislike what they are “ordered” to enforce but that’s the job. !!!! We should all remember & appreciate our boys & girls in blue are humans & just as horny as anyone else !!! | |||
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"The problem with the c19 “laws” such sex with someone you don’t live with is :- 1 many laws are left in the statute & NEVER repealed 2 so if you fiancée lives outside your household it’s now ILLEGAL to make love or have sexual contact 3 book into a hotel with your partner / not married & don’t live together 4 how does one define - two teenagers kissing on a park bench is that sexual activity now & so many variables where the police have powers that in my opinion they simply shouldn’t have & probably don’t want. Putting clubs or house parties aside. These LAWS are invasive - against basis human rights & a power grab. They may never be appealed behind the containment of this virus. STUPIDITY. Agreed. Brits are doing what they want anyway now, so I'd like to see our understaffed and demoralised police trying to enforce these 'laws'. Out of everything that has come from Covid, this latest announcement has been, by far, the most riduculous and unenforceable of them all!!! Two key words there about the police service in the UK “understaffed and demoralised”. They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t - always the first target of public frustration - trying to interpret/enforce laws that they themselves may find unworkable or ill advised. It’s always the “police’s fault” - never the government , prosecution service etc etc. The media seldom seem to praise the emergency services - and if they do it seems as though they are just looking to put them on a “pedestal” so they can then knock them off again. Less than a year ago the country was outraged by the death of a young policeman who had only been married a couple of weeks - run over trying to do his job and stop thieves. I agree with Bruce as well that the police probably don’t want to have to enforce these laws which have come in with what appears to be very little thought or consultation, and are no doubt hoping that they’ll be repealed as soon as possible. Totally agree. I can categorically state that every single cop below a certain rank has no interest or desire in enforcing half of the Covid laws, especially one so Invasive. My friends tell me that they dislike what they are “ordered” to enforce but that’s the job. !!!! We should all remember & appreciate our boys & girls in blue are humans & just as horny as anyone else !!! " | |||
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