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"For years and years we've run a club and been asked more times than we care to remember "Do we need to have sex in the club"? The answer is obviously "No". Always has been, always will be, and same applies to all genuine swingers clubs. So, why now are we getting all the end of club postings? Do these people just go to the clubs for sex? Do they not hook up with old friends to chat the evenings away? Share a drink or two, share memories, make plans. Have a dance, make it a sexy one, without indulging, a good old tease? We have a massive list of friends, people we chat with daily on whats app groups, FB, and other media outlets, and all are keen to get together again as soon as we're allowed, but not one is mentioning sex at all. A swingers club is full of people who are "interested" in the possibility of having sex with others. It is not full of people who "are" having sex with others. A snooker club is full of people who enjoy snooker, but many of them will be standing at the bar chatting and socialising all night. Is it impossible for you all to go to a swingers club and not have sex? If so, then fine, we need to cut our door numbers by 70% for a bit, but the other 30% of you who enjoy the lifestyle for the social side just as much, and are comfortable keeping your sex to the home bedroom, would be welcome if we could get permission to open on that basis. ie as a Pub/club, when safe to do so. The HIV argument has been done to death on here, but one point to make is it didn't stop everyone going to the gay clubs, it just stopped a lot of play occurring. I've just found a club rules sign, from 19 years ago. Rule 7, no sex allowed inside this club. Genuinely, had to be said to stop the club being classed as a brothel and closed down! But at least they all got to chat to friends....and plan a fun future. ![]() Totally agree...and clubs can come up with other events evenings. Plenty of people who enjoy taking pictures or being photographed in erotic poses. As long as it was advertised as a photo shoot evening then may actually get more people in. Shared hobbies etc. | |||
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"i like the no phone rule. i like to do karaoke and its better knowing no one is recording ![]() Again another theme nite that doesn't have to involve sex. Plenty of options. | |||
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"i like the no phone rule. i like to do karaoke and its better knowing no one is recording ![]() There's an idea for Xtasia. Bring the Karaoke into the main club so more people can attend but still have space for social distancing? We would love that. Cannot wait until the club is open again just to be able to socialise!! | |||
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"The HIV argument has been done to death on here, but one point to make is it didn't stop everyone going to the gay clubs, it just stopped a lot of play occurring." How is the HIV comparison even slightly Valid or appropriate? It’s was a terrifying time for the LGBT community. I like many had lived by the fact ‘you can’t get pregnant’ and overnight most of a community realised they could have been exposed. In the main we all went through the terrifying process of getting tested, we all adopted the way of the condom and the majority of us adopted a life long habit of regular testing. It’s also wise to not simplify the UK’s villages as our place of sex. They where and still are our community. They where in that age mine and others place of safety, an escape from the ‘queer bashers’, a place to avoid the police who delighted in catching any minor under the age of 21 and ruining their life. Remember this was an age without Grindr, the web and widespread mobile phones, it was how we met and kept in touch. If you want the blunt reality 30 years later we still have no cure for HIV, the changes it brought to our way of life all remain in place in ours and straight society. Regardless of the fact it’s less than a 1 in 1000 chance of someone we meet having the virus we in general don’t take the chance. Covid-19 however isn’t a STD though, it’s an airborne virus. As a club you are unfortunately just the perfect storm for infection. In effect if you want to do the HIV comparison your establishment to Covid 19 is what unprotected sex was to HIV. Take a look at the gay night club in South Korea this week, one guy in a busy dance bar has already accounted for 120+ confirmed infections, that’s the reality you are dealing with. The suggestion of becoming a social place I think is valid, knowing most clubs layouts the obvious points are to make them safe they’d need to be opened up as spaces when guidelines for ‘hospitality’ venues comes into play in order to comply. Most I know would need to take down the partition walls and the playrooms. I do sincerely wish you all the very best, I hope as with the LGBT community and HIV you embrace the ethic of adapt and overcome. I also hope like us back then the swinging community realises your importance within the scene and supports the changes you in the changes you’ll need to make. Charli x | |||
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"i like the no phone rule. i like to do karaoke and its better knowing no one is recording ![]() I have been to karaoke nights at a lifestyle club (Jaycees) and they have been fantastic. | |||
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"The HIV argument has been done to death on here, but one point to make is it didn't stop everyone going to the gay clubs, it just stopped a lot of play occurring. How is the HIV comparison even slightly Valid or appropriate? It’s was a terrifying time for the LGBT community. I like many had lived by the fact ‘you can’t get pregnant’ and overnight most of a community realised they could have been exposed. In the main we all went through the terrifying process of getting tested, we all adopted the way of the condom and the majority of us adopted a life long habit of regular testing. It’s also wise to not simplify the UK’s villages as our place of sex. They where and still are our community. They where in that age mine and others place of safety, an escape from the ‘queer bashers’, a place to avoid the police who delighted in catching any minor under the age of 21 and ruining their life. Remember this was an age without Grindr, the web and widespread mobile phones, it was how we met and kept in touch. If you want the blunt reality 30 years later we still have no cure for HIV, the changes it brought to our way of life all remain in place in ours and straight society. Regardless of the fact it’s less than a 1 in 1000 chance of someone we meet having the virus we in general don’t take the chance. Covid-19 however isn’t a STD though, it’s an airborne virus. As a club you are unfortunately just the perfect storm for infection. In effect if you want to do the HIV comparison your establishment to Covid 19 is what unprotected sex was to HIV. Take a look at the gay night club in South Korea this week, one guy in a busy dance bar has already accounted for 120+ confirmed infections, that’s the reality you are dealing with. The suggestion of becoming a social place I think is valid, knowing most clubs layouts the obvious points are to make them safe they’d need to be opened up as spaces when guidelines for ‘hospitality’ venues comes into play in order to comply. Most I know would need to take down the partition walls and the playrooms. I do sincerely wish you all the very best, I hope as with the LGBT community and HIV you embrace the ethic of adapt and overcome. I also hope like us back then the swinging community realises your importance within the scene and supports the changes you in the changes you’ll need to make. Charli x" I agree with you totally....the point I was trying to make you summed up nicely for me with this line: They where and still are our community. I'd like to think that most genuine swingers see the clubs as their community. ![]() | |||
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"The HIV argument has been done to death on here, but one point to make is it didn't stop everyone going to the gay clubs, it just stopped a lot of play occurring. How is the HIV comparison even slightly Valid or appropriate? It’s was a terrifying time for the LGBT community. I like many had lived by the fact ‘you can’t get pregnant’ and overnight most of a community realised they could have been exposed. In the main we all went through the terrifying process of getting tested, we all adopted the way of the condom and the majority of us adopted a life long habit of regular testing. It’s also wise to not simplify the UK’s villages as our place of sex. They where and still are our community. They where in that age mine and others place of safety, an escape from the ‘queer bashers’, a place to avoid the police who delighted in catching any minor under the age of 21 and ruining their life. Remember this was an age without Grindr, the web and widespread mobile phones, it was how we met and kept in touch. If you want the blunt reality 30 years later we still have no cure for HIV, the changes it brought to our way of life all remain in place in ours and straight society. Regardless of the fact it’s less than a 1 in 1000 chance of someone we meet having the virus we in general don’t take the chance. Covid-19 however isn’t a STD though, it’s an airborne virus. As a club you are unfortunately just the perfect storm for infection. In effect if you want to do the HIV comparison your establishment to Covid 19 is what unprotected sex was to HIV. Take a look at the gay night club in South Korea this week, one guy in a busy dance bar has already accounted for 120+ confirmed infections, that’s the reality you are dealing with. The suggestion of becoming a social place I think is valid, knowing most clubs layouts the obvious points are to make them safe they’d need to be opened up as spaces when guidelines for ‘hospitality’ venues comes into play in order to comply. Most I know would need to take down the partition walls and the playrooms. I do sincerely wish you all the very best, I hope as with the LGBT community and HIV you embrace the ethic of adapt and overcome. I also hope like us back then the swinging community realises your importance within the scene and supports the changes you in the changes you’ll need to make. Charli x I agree with you totally....the point I was trying to make you summed up nicely for me with this line: They where and still are our community. I'd like to think that most genuine swingers see the clubs as their community. ![]() Absolutely, I think it’s a horrible time for you guys and we’d do well to remember the role you play for those finding away into the scene, allowing us to meet others and the environment of safety you provide. You are just another hairdressing Salon, Nightclub, Airline or whatever... through sheer bad luck you guys fall right at the back of the list of environments we can use currently. We need all these things in society in some form though, it’s just figuring out what new forms they take. Honestly, I wish you guys all the very best for the coming month x | |||
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"I never go with any plans with the exception of if I've organized a gangbang.... Mostly I go to clubs to chill and chat to friends. OP I've been to your club a few times and I've only played once there.. the rest of the times it was purely social. Party nights at clubs I always tend to go for a social " Plenty of gang bangs needed post lock down lol | |||
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"For years and years we've run a club and been asked more times than we care to remember "Do we need to have sex in the club"? The answer is obviously "No". Always has been, always will be, and same applies to all genuine swingers clubs. So, why now are we getting all the end of club postings? Do these people just go to the clubs for sex? Do they not hook up with old friends to chat the evenings away? Share a drink or two, share memories, make plans. Have a dance, make it a sexy one, without indulging, a good old tease? We have a massive list of friends, people we chat with daily on whats app groups, FB, and other media outlets, and all are keen to get together again as soon as we're allowed, but not one is mentioning sex at all. A swingers club is full of people who are "interested" in the possibility of having sex with others. It is not full of people who "are" having sex with others. A snooker club is full of people who enjoy snooker, but many of them will be standing at the bar chatting and socialising all night. Is it impossible for you all to go to a swingers club and not have sex? If so, then fine, we need to cut our door numbers by 70% for a bit, but the other 30% of you who enjoy the lifestyle for the social side just as much, and are comfortable keeping your sex to the home bedroom, would be welcome if we could get permission to open on that basis. ie as a Pub/club, when safe to do so. The HIV argument has been done to death on here, but one point to make is it didn't stop everyone going to the gay clubs, it just stopped a lot of play occurring. I've just found a club rules sign, from 19 years ago. Rule 7, no sex allowed inside this club. Genuinely, had to be said to stop the club being classed as a brothel and closed down! But at least they all got to chat to friends....and plan a fun future. ![]() the club becomes a pub.. Nik | |||
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"For years and years we've run a club and been asked more times than we care to remember "Do we need to have sex in the club"? The answer is obviously "No". Always has been, always will be, and same applies to all genuine swingers clubs. So, why now are we getting all the end of club postings? Do these people just go to the clubs for sex? Do they not hook up with old friends to chat the evenings away? Share a drink or two, share memories, make plans. Have a dance, make it a sexy one, without indulging, a good old tease? We have a massive list of friends, people we chat with daily on whats app groups, FB, and other media outlets, and all are keen to get together again as soon as we're allowed, but not one is mentioning sex at all. A swingers club is full of people who are "interested" in the possibility of having sex with others. It is not full of people who "are" having sex with others. A snooker club is full of people who enjoy snooker, but many of them will be standing at the bar chatting and socialising all night. Is it impossible for you all to go to a swingers club and not have sex? If so, then fine, we need to cut our door numbers by 70% for a bit, but the other 30% of you who enjoy the lifestyle for the social side just as much, and are comfortable keeping your sex to the home bedroom, would be welcome if we could get permission to open on that basis. ie as a Pub/club, when safe to do so. The HIV argument has been done to death on here, but one point to make is it didn't stop everyone going to the gay clubs, it just stopped a lot of play occurring. I've just found a club rules sign, from 19 years ago. Rule 7, no sex allowed inside this club. Genuinely, had to be said to stop the club being classed as a brothel and closed down! But at least they all got to chat to friends....and plan a fun future. ![]() Not at all.....but gets classed as one. Naughty chat, flashing, tease dancing, etc if you can do all that in your local, I need to visit! | |||
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"Do we "need" to have sex in a club? NO. Do we "like" to have sex in a club? YES. Our swinger life is almost exclusively in clubs and sex is the main (but not only) reason we go. We have had some very wild sex in clubs but we've also had plenty of nights when it is just social. I'm pretty sure that when the clubs open again our first few outings will be much more social than sex. However should the sex totally disappear from clubs I really don't see any point in them staying open. " Kind of agree with you but also feel there's a middle line somewhere. A very naughty pub or club where you can get away with lots more than you'd be allowed to at a Weatherspoons, but doesn't need to have an orgy or gangbang going in the middle of the room. At least for the short term with all the obstacles infront of us. | |||
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"A sex club without the possibility of sex is just another club. Yes you can have a more erotic feel and or theme but I would suggest that would lead to frustration and that's never a good thing. " ....and trying to ease all your frustrations isn't a good thing? ![]() | |||
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"A sex club without the possibility of sex is just another club. Yes you can have a more erotic feel and or theme but I would suggest that would lead to frustration and that's never a good thing. ....and trying to ease all your frustrations isn't a good thing? ![]() I get what you are suggesting and if that was the starting point and all the club ever was going to be then that might work. But when your Clientele are dressed to play and Chating about how it was in the old days won't necessarily lead to a positive vibe hence the frustration. | |||
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"A sex club without the possibility of sex is just another club. Yes you can have a more erotic feel and or theme but I would suggest that would lead to frustration and that's never a good thing. ....and trying to ease all your frustrations isn't a good thing? ![]() Yep, understand, but trying to find gentle ways out of this....and chatting about how it was, would give us something to look forward to! Always the optimists. ![]() | |||
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"my thing has always been that i go to a club to meet l likeminded people, and if anything happens from there, then that is a bonus... playing in a club has never been a be all or end all for me.... playing in a club has never ever been a deal breaker in whether i have enjoyed a night or not! i treat it like any other night i have out.... BUT you can tell straight away those people where playing is an all or nothing sum, and boy they let you know it when they don't play!!! ![]() Our kind of single, lol. Remember numbers will need to be kept well down as social distancing will be such an issue, so if people don't get it, they don't come along.....pretty simple solution to that one. We've calculated our normal dance floor/bar area can hold 300 ish on a busy party night, with social distancing its probably limited to 60. If thats the case, we'd like to ensure the 60 are happy with it being a non play environment, and leave those looking for serious sex play to make up their own solution. | |||
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"A sex club without the possibility of sex is just another club. Yes you can have a more erotic feel and or theme but I would suggest that would lead to frustration and that's never a good thing. ....and trying to ease all your frustrations isn't a good thing? ![]() ![]() I get that and it's a complete mess. I've been accused of being negative about the future of clubs which isn't the case I'm a realist and I don't see any easy way out for clubs in any sector of society. I can't see how you can implement and control social distancing in a pub let alone a swing club. I really hope this whole mess goes away as soon as but the government, both local & national, arent going to take risks with public health which is unfortunately put our lifestyle choice at the bottom of the pile. Never forget the politicians always have an eye on the next election and that is very true right now as this situation won't be forgotten in a hurry. But, because there is always a but, there will be a way forward we just have to wait and see what science can bring to the party, for the scientists are the only ones who are going to find the keys to unlock the doors. Of course you and other club owners are the ones in our world who are going to suffer. From what I know of your club, which I will say looks very good, you will options possibly along the lines you've suggested because there will come a time when people will take what's on off as the only option but my comment re frustration still stands... All that aside I wish you all the luck because I feel you and the Townhouse are both in this for more than the £££ and that should be respected. | |||
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"For years and years we've run a club and been asked more times than we care to remember "Do we need to have sex in the club"? The answer is obviously "No". Always has been, always will be, and same applies to all genuine swingers clubs. So, why now are we getting all the end of club postings? Do these people just go to the clubs for sex? Do they not hook up with old friends to chat the evenings away? Share a drink or two, share memories, make plans. Have a dance, make it a sexy one, without indulging, a good old tease? We have a massive list of friends, people we chat with daily on whats app groups, FB, and other media outlets, and all are keen to get together again as soon as we're allowed, but not one is mentioning sex at all. A swingers club is full of people who are "interested" in the possibility of having sex with others. It is not full of people who "are" having sex with others. A snooker club is full of people who enjoy snooker, but many of them will be standing at the bar chatting and socialising all night. Is it impossible for you all to go to a swingers club and not have sex? If so, then fine, we need to cut our door numbers by 70% for a bit, but the other 30% of you who enjoy the lifestyle for the social side just as much, and are comfortable keeping your sex to the home bedroom, would be welcome if we could get permission to open on that basis. ie as a Pub/club, when safe to do so. The HIV argument has been done to death on here, but one point to make is it didn't stop everyone going to the gay clubs, it just stopped a lot of play occurring. I've just found a club rules sign, from 19 years ago. Rule 7, no sex allowed inside this club. Genuinely, had to be said to stop the club being classed as a brothel and closed down! But at least they all got to chat to friends....and plan a fun future. ![]() This is a fantastic post, and it makes the point that there is a life out there to be lived in the Clubs after all this, and more to the point, alongside all this. I remember how completely sexy it was to play Pool in a Club, just wearing lingerie. With some different thinking, Swinging Clubs could take back control, and perhaps enter a new era on how people enjoy themselves around eachother. I would be happy to put this time we are living through in its place with a different take on being a free spirit, and what you've suggested is a fantastic idea of where to start, thank you xxxx | |||
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"For years and years we've run a club and been asked more times than we care to remember "Do we need to have sex in the club"? The answer is obviously "No". Always has been, always will be, and same applies to all genuine swingers clubs. So, why now are we getting all the end of club postings? Do these people just go to the clubs for sex? Do they not hook up with old friends to chat the evenings away? Share a drink or two, share memories, make plans. Have a dance, make it a sexy one, without indulging, a good old tease? We have a massive list of friends, people we chat with daily on whats app groups, FB, and other media outlets, and all are keen to get together again as soon as we're allowed, but not one is mentioning sex at all. A swingers club is full of people who are "interested" in the possibility of having sex with others. It is not full of people who "are" having sex with others. A snooker club is full of people who enjoy snooker, but many of them will be standing at the bar chatting and socialising all night. Is it impossible for you all to go to a swingers club and not have sex? If so, then fine, we need to cut our door numbers by 70% for a bit, but the other 30% of you who enjoy the lifestyle for the social side just as much, and are comfortable keeping your sex to the home bedroom, would be welcome if we could get permission to open on that basis. ie as a Pub/club, when safe to do so. The HIV argument has been done to death on here, but one point to make is it didn't stop everyone going to the gay clubs, it just stopped a lot of play occurring. I've just found a club rules sign, from 19 years ago. Rule 7, no sex allowed inside this club. Genuinely, had to be said to stop the club being classed as a brothel and closed down! But at least they all got to chat to friends....and plan a fun future. ![]() A very sexy pub ![]() ![]() | |||
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"my thing has always been that i go to a club to meet l likeminded people, and if anything happens from there, then that is a bonus... playing in a club has never been a be all or end all for me.... playing in a club has never ever been a deal breaker in whether i have enjoyed a night or not! i treat it like any other night i have out.... BUT you can tell straight away those people where playing is an all or nothing sum, and boy they let you know it when they don't play!!! ![]() I've never expected sex whenever I've visited a swing club, and after 16 visits as a single guy (to various clubs), I've only had sex with 2 people. I've always gone with a mind open to the possibility of meeting someone I make a connection with, and we COULD share some sexy fun on the night, but I don't expect it. The very least I HAVE expected, is to meet likeminded friendly people........ Would I visit a swing club with no possibility of sexy play on the menu, with strict social distancing measures in place? No. Geographically and financially for me, there's absolutely no draw for me. If you pare back a swing club to what is effectively 'just' a pub, then I'll be walking the 750 yards to support my local, pay the same entry fee as everyone else (£0), and enjoy socialising with likeminded people ie; other people who like going to the pub. There won't be anyone sitting around in lingerie, or porn playing on a screen somewhere, but I won't be leaving frustrated either ![]() ![]() | |||
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"It’s fun to play in the club but not an essential for me . I like to go to a club and socialise with likeminded people , dance and have conversations ![]() I think this will be the issue. I think it's £25/30 for us to visit our nearest club as a couple and one of us has to drive. In comparison we've been to organised socials in a private function room which only costs £10. That's quite a difference but would essentially be quite similar minusc everyone walking about in their lingerie x | |||
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"my thing has always been that i go to a club to meet l likeminded people, and if anything happens from there, then that is a bonus... playing in a club has never been a be all or end all for me.... playing in a club has never ever been a deal breaker in whether i have enjoyed a night or not! i treat it like any other night i have out.... BUT you can tell straight away those people where playing is an all or nothing sum, and boy they let you know it when they don't play!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() But you could still make friendships leading to sex outside the Club, and get a 'glimpse' of what is on offer. | |||
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"my thing has always been that i go to a club to meet l likeminded people, and if anything happens from there, then that is a bonus... playing in a club has never been a be all or end all for me.... playing in a club has never ever been a deal breaker in whether i have enjoyed a night or not! i treat it like any other night i have out.... BUT you can tell straight away those people where playing is an all or nothing sum, and boy they let you know it when they don't play!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() To a certain extent we would have to agree. We don't expect sex but we go to a club knowing that there is a possibility, maybe even likelihood, of some fun on the night. We fully expect that in the short term social distancing will almost certainly mean that sex in clubs will be on hold for a while. In those circumstances we would still support our local clubs. However if that situation became permanent or even semi permanent, then long term we would not see any point in spending 20/30/40€ plus travel for just a social event. As you say, we can do that down the pub. | |||
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"my thing has always been that i go to a club to meet l likeminded people, and if anything happens from there, then that is a bonus... playing in a club has never been a be all or end all for me.... playing in a club has never ever been a deal breaker in whether i have enjoyed a night or not! i treat it like any other night i have out.... BUT you can tell straight away those people where playing is an all or nothing sum, and boy they let you know it when they don't play!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() But that's then fine, we wouldn't need to provide playrooms, jacuzzi's, cinemas, or go through all the hoops for the council, so our overheads would dramatically reduce, and we might even be able to just use all the area as a massive pub, pretty sure some clubs will be looking at this option already. What we're trying to establish is if there is a half way house for the short to medium term that would work, allowing us to keep the club as it is. From the support we've got on the thread, plus everything we're getting through on other media, the answer is overwhelmingly yes, but we guess time will tell. We also have the added advantage of starting with a massive club. I'm feeling for the folks who had a capacity of 60 before Covid ![]() | |||
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"Do we "need" to have sex in a club? NO. Do we "like" to have sex in a club? YES. Our swinger life is almost exclusively in clubs and sex is the main (but not only) reason we go. We have had some very wild sex in clubs but we've also had plenty of nights when it is just social. I'm pretty sure that when the clubs open again our first few outings will be much more social than sex. However should the sex totally disappear from clubs I really don't see any point in them staying open. Kind of agree with you but also feel there's a middle line somewhere. A very naughty pub or club where you can get away with lots more than you'd be allowed to at a Weatherspoons, but doesn't need to have an orgy or gangbang going in the middle of the room. At least for the short term with all the obstacles infront of us. " We agree 110% Can't wait until the first sexy social night with you guys. We still think a Kinky Karaoke in the club is a great idea!! | |||
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"my thing has always been that i go to a club to meet l likeminded people, and if anything happens from there, then that is a bonus... playing in a club has never been a be all or end all for me.... playing in a club has never ever been a deal breaker in whether i have enjoyed a night or not! i treat it like any other night i have out.... BUT you can tell straight away those people where playing is an all or nothing sum, and boy they let you know it when they don't play!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm doing that anyway right now, with more people putting effort in to using Fab, rather than taking the 'easy' option of just rocking up to a club and seeing who's in..... ![]() | |||
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"my thing has always been that i go to a club to meet l likeminded people, and if anything happens from there, then that is a bonus... playing in a club has never been a be all or end all for me.... playing in a club has never ever been a deal breaker in whether i have enjoyed a night or not! i treat it like any other night i have out.... BUT you can tell straight away those people where playing is an all or nothing sum, and boy they let you know it when they don't play!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fully agree that there must be some kind of middle ground. But that can only be in the short term. If you take the sex away permanently then clubs will just become swinger friendly bars. A bit like in Gran Canary or Cap d'Agde. They work fine in holiday resorts that attract lots of swingers when it's a 5 minute walk or short taxi ride from the hotel/apartment. Also those swinger friendly bars don't charge an entrance fee, and are more often than not used as a meeting point before going on to a club. Think about how far some people travel to go to a swinger club. When I was in the UK I would drive to Cupids, Liaisons, or the Adam and Eve from Blackpool. For many clubs single guys are the financial lifeblood. Do you really think that they will drive an hour or more, pay membership, and high entrance fees for a social?. Initially maybe, but it wouldn't last long. You could also say the same about a lot of couples. Sorry but unless swinger clubs get at least close to normal in a reasonable time frame then I don't see many (if any) surviving. | |||
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"my thing has always been that i go to a club to meet l likeminded people, and if anything happens from there, then that is a bonus... playing in a club has never been a be all or end all for me.... playing in a club has never ever been a deal breaker in whether i have enjoyed a night or not! i treat it like any other night i have out.... BUT you can tell straight away those people where playing is an all or nothing sum, and boy they let you know it when they don't play!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() But there must have been a reason you went to a Club 16 times in spite of only getting laid twice out of it. There must have been enjoyment besides the sex in being there. | |||
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"We are by no means regular club goers, but we enjoy out evenings at Xtasia immensely. I hope we don't all get carried away in some sort of social distancing paranoia with this..... Yes Covid 19 is a killer virus - believe me I get it, but every day we are making strides to formulate a mechanism to cope with it. We may never totally eradicate it, but all of our lives are lived to a risk based approach - otherwise we'd never cross a road. It worries me that some people are under the impression that social distancing is with us for years, or even for ever. Total rubbish! Once the testing regime and other scientific cone head mumbo jumbo is in place we will go back to our normal lives, including clubbing. So get you chins up fabbers! We WILL conquer this and return to our previous depraved, seedy lifestyles!!! Have a little faith and be positive - and let's stop spreading depressed panic! I'd we all do the right thing and take the short term pain, we will all reap the rewards of the long term gain " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Totally agree with comments about how enjoyable the social side can be but it's all underpinned by the latent possibility of sex, the chance to experience that powerful chemistry and surrender to it on the spot - however infrequently that may happen in practice. To put it bluntly, sex is not essential but the possibility of it is. " Being voyeuristic, I can "survive" on a diet of watching, especially if I`m watching hand movements underwater in the jacuzzi. If I manage to get a hand job or can reciprocate in some minor way I`ve had a good night! So perhaps more emphasis on other having sex is my position. | |||
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"Totally agree with comments about how enjoyable the social side can be but it's all underpinned by the latent possibility of sex, the chance to experience that powerful chemistry and surrender to it on the spot - however infrequently that may happen in practice. To put it bluntly, sex is not essential but the possibility of it is. Being voyeuristic, I can "survive" on a diet of watching, especially if I`m watching hand movements underwater in the jacuzzi. If I manage to get a hand job or can reciprocate in some minor way I`ve had a good night! So perhaps more emphasis on other having sex is my position. " This is a fair point but still underlines the importance of sex being able to happen at the club, whether participating or not! | |||
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"A sex club without the possibility of sex is just another club. Yes you can have a more erotic feel and or theme but I would suggest that would lead to frustration and that's never a good thing. ....and trying to ease all your frustrations isn't a good thing? ![]() ![]() ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I chose this thread because I agree with that couple. Thank you for posting. Worth spreading the word and reading again. | |||
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"Eureka have reopened as a sunbathe venue only. Back in time they were a disco party scene with what looked like 90% of people on the dance floor, 5% outdoors chatting, 5% playing in the back rooms." Happy memories at Eureka, going back years! | |||
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"A sex club without the possibility of sex is just another club. Yes you can have a more erotic feel and or theme but I would suggest that would lead to frustration and that's never a good thing. " "A sex club without the possibility of sex is just another club. Yes you can have a more erotic feel and or theme but I would suggest that would lead to frustration and that's never a good thing. " Yes no one will pay £70 membership fee £25,£30& £35 everynight if a sex club without the possibility of sex and the clubs is just going to be empty after weeks and Noo fun no new ppl and it will end up closed or dry soo I’m not saying _tasia but most clubs earn they are money from single guys if those single don’t get what they want then they will never come and from Far places and this club is going to be useless,profitless and no one want to see that right because it’s such a beautiful club with a lots very respectful ppl and I think they need to wait and just run it the same way as before but only when this deadly virus is gone! ![]() ![]() | |||
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" Yeah isn’t it _tasia sex club, which means you can meet people there AND have sex with them in that place and socialis ,if it’s not then emmm???? " No, Xtasia is not a Sex club, it's a swingers/lifestyle club. Sex clubs are completely different things. Sex in swingers clubs is not going to be happening for the foreseeable future so to survive until this can happen again decent swingers/lifestyle clubs have to find ways of generating revenue to stay afloat. Myself and lots of other people I know would be happy to visit clubs in whatever capacity they can reopen just to help them get through this difficult time. I can't wait to catch up with some of the many friends that I've made via the club scene. Even if it does mean social distancing for the foreseeable future. | |||
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"We have a 3 hour round trip for our favourite club where all our friends are and unfortunately we'd not be travelling that far for chat in a pub when we could do in the next village and wouldn't have to pay £20 to get in either. But however we'd go if we was able to play with each other and watch others play." Absolutely agree with this ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We are by no means regular club goers, but we enjoy out evenings at Xtasia immensely. I hope we don't all get carried away in some sort of social distancing paranoia with this..... Yes Covid 19 is a killer virus - believe me I get it, but every day we are making strides to formulate a mechanism to cope with it. We may never totally eradicate it, but all of our lives are lived to a risk based approach - otherwise we'd never cross a road. It worries me that some people are under the impression that social distancing is with us for years, or even for ever. Total rubbish! Once the testing regime and other scientific cone head mumbo jumbo is in place we will go back to our normal lives, including clubbing. So get you chins up fabbers! We WILL conquer this and return to our previous depraved, seedy lifestyles!!! Have a little faith and be positive - and let's stop spreading depressed panic! I'd we all do the right thing and take the short term pain, we will all reap the rewards of the long term gain " I hope you're right. ![]() | |||
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"Do we "need" to have sex in a club? NO. Do we "like" to have sex in a club? YES. Our swinger life is almost exclusively in clubs and sex is the main (but not only) reason we go. We have had some very wild sex in clubs but we've also had plenty of nights when it is just social. I'm pretty sure that when the clubs open again our first few outings will be much more social than sex. However should the sex totally disappear from clubs I really don't see any point in them staying open. Kind of agree with you but also feel there's a middle line somewhere. A very naughty pub or club where you can get away with lots more than you'd be allowed to at a Weatherspoons, but doesn't need to have an orgy or gangbang going in the middle of the room. At least for the short term with all the obstacles infront of us. " I can definitely see the point of the short term plan and really hope people support it to keep clubs open. I wouldn't go though. Cheaper and easier to go to a pub. I go to swinger clubs to watch people fuck and/ or to join in. ![]() | |||
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"Some of the best nights I’ve had at my local club have been in the kitchen drinking tea and having a laugh with old friends and it’s a great place to meet new ones as well. Definitely no need to play at a club to make it a fun night. Flirting and teasing can be much more fun. " I agree with the above but also think the POTENTIAL of having a great sexual encounter is also a motivator for folks to go to a club. There will be a demand for a post lockdown social only swinging club but the unknown question is will there be enough a demand at the prices that need to be charged to make it worthwhile for club owners to open. A similar dilema will face pubs and restaurants if they have to reduce capacity close to or below their break-even volume. | |||
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"As has been said before, lots of clubs make money out of single guys and all most all of them won't be willing to part with £50 plus or even £30 just for a social. Of course some will but they will be the minority. " Very good point! ![]() | |||
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"As has been said before, lots of clubs make money out of single guys and all most all of them won't be willing to part with £50 plus or even £30 just for a social. Of course some will but they will be the minority. " There's a hotel next door for anyone who wants to fuck, the club will probably only get a licence to open as a club. So we look forward to going for a sexy evening, if you want a sex party then it private parties only this year. | |||
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"We are by no means regular club goers, but we enjoy out evenings at Xtasia immensely. I hope we don't all get carried away in some sort of social distancing paranoia with this..... Yes Covid 19 is a killer virus - believe me I get it, but every day we are making strides to formulate a mechanism to cope with it. We may never totally eradicate it, but all of our lives are lived to a risk based approach - otherwise we'd never cross a road. It worries me that some people are under the impression that social distancing is with us for years, or even for ever. Total rubbish! Once the testing regime and other scientific cone head mumbo jumbo is in place we will go back to our normal lives, including clubbing. So get you chins up fabbers! We WILL conquer this and return to our previous depraved, seedy lifestyles!!! Have a little faith and be positive - and let's stop spreading depressed panic! I'd we all do the right thing and take the short term pain, we will all reap the rewards of the long term gain I hope you're right. ![]() | |||
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"As has been said before, lots of clubs make money out of single guys and all most all of them won't be willing to part with £50 plus or even £30 just for a social. Of course some will but they will be the minority. " . As a single guy I have attend organised socials in London that are normally held in a pub with the cost of travel , drink , meal I can quite easily spend £20 - £30 so I have no problem spending that for a social at a club.I would consider spending £50 at a club social but as a single guy I would like there to be enough ladies as a bit of flirting and good natured banter can make for a fun night out. | |||
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"For years and years we've run a club and been asked more times than we care to remember "Do we need to have sex in the club"? The answer is obviously "No". Always has been, always will be, and same applies to all genuine swingers clubs. So, why now are we getting all the end of club postings? Do these people just go to the clubs for sex? Do they not hook up with old friends to chat the evenings away? Share a drink or two, share memories, make plans. Have a dance, make it a sexy one, without indulging, a good old tease? We have a massive list of friends, people we chat with daily on whats app groups, FB, and other media outlets, and all are keen to get together again as soon as we're allowed, but not one is mentioning sex at all. A swingers club is full of people who are "interested" in the possibility of having sex with others. It is not full of people who "are" having sex with others. A snooker club is full of people who enjoy snooker, but many of them will be standing at the bar chatting and socialising all night. Is it impossible for you all to go to a swingers club and not have sex? If so, then fine, we need to cut our door numbers by 70% for a bit, but the other 30% of you who enjoy the lifestyle for the social side just as much, and are comfortable keeping your sex to the home bedroom, would be welcome if we could get permission to open on that basis. ie as a Pub/club, when safe to do so. The HIV argument has been done to death on here, but one point to make is it didn't stop everyone going to the gay clubs, it just stopped a lot of play occurring. I've just found a club rules sign, from 19 years ago. Rule 7, no sex allowed inside this club. Genuinely, had to be said to stop the club being classed as a brothel and closed down! But at least they all got to chat to friends....and plan a fun future. ![]() Not all who visit are interested in having sexual with others. | |||
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"We look forward to seeing _tasia reopen and if it's only as a club then that's good for us as play isn't the number one priority We enjoy a good social night and a drink in a bar where no one feels too old or unwelcome Keep up the good work _tasia and see you soon Wish all the club owners the best through this as we will all need you back soon as x" Firstly I'll admit to not having read every single comment on this thread.However in reply to the original question about is sex obligatory in clubs, in my experience it's a big no. I recently took a completely new to the scene vanilla friend to a club as an introduction to the scene. She was initially terrified of the whole idea but thanks to a lovely atmosphere and some great fellow guests we met purely socially she was very assured by the whole experience. There was no sexual activity of any kind but just social activity and the whole experience was very reassuring for her which in my book is a win,win situation. I can't see any other gentle no pressure way of introducing someone to the scene? So roll on safe reopening! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We've been using a couple of clubs for a fair few years. They are a big part of our social life and loved to get together with friends. The events clubs had were the only times we could meet up with some of them due to travelling etc etc and we spent hours catching up. The social side of clubs is crucial for us to get to know people and build a kind of friendship and trust and then possibly take it to another level. Now this C-19 situation has come along, everyone has had to readjust to their lifestyles and adapt their priorities and surroundings. Home life won't be the same for a long time and neither will work and business. The main problem with all this going on is the lack of physical social interaction. How easy did it used to be to shake hands, hug, kiss and show affection to friends and family? How hard is it to stay away from family? How hard is it to keep a safe distance and not hug the kids and grandkids? Or brothers, sisters, mums and dads? The temptation is strong! How hard is it going to be if clubs open on strict guidelines of no physical contact? The social side and distancing would be great. A catch up and a giggle with friends is what we could all do with. But imagine the huge temptation for some to have a quick fumble in a dark corner somewhere. Would that temptation be too much? Once someone sees what was happening, people would follow suit, monkey see, monkey do. After all, sex is a primal urge and emotion. And if it got to be public knowledge, would the clubs suffer the consequences of being closed perminently? There's so many questions to be asked and answered. So many do's and don'ts. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Anyway, that's my early morning waffle over lol" We posted this on another thread but its food for thought. Another thing that we wondered about. When clubs reopen, will they be upgrading washing facilities? More showers, hand gels etc etc to help with restricting any future situations similar to the one we're in? Obviously, most people we know take their own hygiene products to clubs, as we do, but will it be part of the new remit by the government guidelines to upgrade at adult venues? | |||
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"Late to the party again I'm afraid. But may I use this thread to ask if the owners of Xstasia did get round to installing the 'cage I saw mentioned in an earlier post? Given the right conditions I have a lady friend who is very exhibitionist and would love the idea of being exposed in a safe but visible environment if you have? It strikes me as a good way of providing this experience with the advantage of social distancing? Please pm if the thread gets closed Best of luck! ![]() ![]() Yes we did ![]() | |||
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"Has the club your video tour thing been updated after all the improvements?" No sorry, improvements still ongoing so may renew when all done but also need to consider what we sign post each area as post shut down. No point calling somewhere Orgy room when no orgies allowed etc. | |||
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"Numerous times we’ve visited Xtasia (And many other clubs) and not had sex. We enjoy the social side and have often said it’s not just about the sex. Keep up the good work, we can’t wait to see you all agin! Xx" same here, go to socialise with friends and have a laugh | |||
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"A sex club without the possibility of sex is just another club. Yes you can have a more erotic feel and or theme but I would suggest that would lead to frustration and that's never a good thing. A sex club without the possibility of sex is just another club. Yes you can have a more erotic feel and or theme but I would suggest that would lead to frustration and that's never a good thing. Yes no one will pay £70 membership fee £25,£30& £35 everynight if a sex club without the possibility of sex and the clubs is just going to be empty after weeks and Noo fun no new ppl and it will end up closed or dry soo I’m not saying _tasia but most clubs earn they are money from single guys if those single don’t get what they want then they will never come and from Far places and this club is going to be useless,profitless and no one want to see that right because it’s such a beautiful club with a lots very respectful ppl and I think they need to wait and just run it the same way as before but only when this deadly virus is gone! ![]() ![]() Don’t know which club charges as you describe. Certainly as far as I am conceded NONE in the northwest (stand to be corrected) certainly not Cupids !!! | |||
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"Lots of interesting points above. As a single guy who has been on the club scene for 10 years & definitely operate on the basis of it is a social activity with anything else being a bonus I am afraid to say, in answer to the OP question "I would go yes but I wouldn't pay usual entry prices". Why? Well firstly all clubs are over an hours drive away for me , that is 2 hours round trip minimum (often more like 4 hours thanks to the M5) to meet up with people who may or may not be there! Arrange before the day, sure you could but why would you arrange to meet at a place that charges high entry fees when you could have a more comfortable, quieter meet at a place that was free entry? As for making new friends sure, definitely possible but it is unlikely that those friendships will endure when faced with such a long journey just to say hello. Then there is the main reason I go to clubs, I'm a voyeur. I like to watch people play, I like to watch people enjoy themselves & others. You can't do that sort of thing in normal venues but you can have flirty even suggestive conversations in normal venues, you simply have to judge how best to build up to it if at all. That isn't much different to any successful approach in swingers clubs anyway, just because they choose that type of venue doesn't me they are wanting to be approached like that. The other reason I go to clubs is to use the spa facilities. Whilst I can use those in leisure centres etc. they obviously don't have the same atmosphere as the do in clubs. In a leisure centre it is predominantly a quiet affair with little interaction where as at swinging clubs they are full of cheaky banter & laughter. So I would go; It would be nice to see my friends but as all other aspects are going to be absent there is no way to justify an entry fee above a token gesture which I'm sure isn't enough to make it viable for the club, especially as I'd be buying nothing more than mixers at the bar. I guess my return question to the OP is would it be viable to run the club if you could only charge £5 per head entrance & sell a few glasses of cola? " Far too early to build costs in, in all honesty. Yes it needs to be viable, but if we aim to outlast the issue, then all income is appreciated. Our aim is to remain for the long term, so lots of other options being considered to see us through, but we just thought, regardless of prices, we'd put the question out there. ![]() | |||
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" Far too early to build costs in, in all honesty. Yes it needs to be viable, but if we aim to outlast the issue, then all income is appreciated. Our aim is to remain for the long term, so lots of other options being considered to see us through, but we just thought, regardless of prices, we'd put the question out there. ![]() I seriously hope that Xtasia & the other well respected clubs survive this. Definitely good to put these things out there for sure, far better to act on information than opinion. Hopefully visit you again soon. | |||
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"Totally agree, we will still be attending Xtasia play or no play. Everyone should be supporting their favourite clubs more than ever when they reopen to ensure that they and the lifestyle as a whole survives this crisis. " Abso frikkin lutely ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I go for a bit of both! I enjoy chatting and having a couple of drinks, meeting old friends and new friends then disappearing off for a bit of fun then coming back for more chatting but I find some single guys seem to think that because they've paid to get in they are guaranteed sex and can be pests but most are lovely and respectful " women can afford to do that they either get in free or a nominal fee for men its slightly different because of the cost to get in ![]() | |||
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"I go for a bit of both! I enjoy chatting and having a couple of drinks, meeting old friends and new friends then disappearing off for a bit of fun then coming back for more chatting but I find some single guys seem to think that because they've paid to get in they are guaranteed sex and can be pests but most are lovely and respectful women can afford to do that they either get in free or a nominal fee for men its slightly different because of the cost to get in ![]() Have to remain respectful at all times & learn how to enjoy a quiet night at a club. I've been to clubs several times where I've had no form of direct sexual contact but never left feeling like the visit was a total loss. Often chatting to ladies at repeated meetings is what they require to feel relaxed & connected enough to move to the next stage. If it is a quiet period at the club then I'll revert to social mode and try to make a new friend or two. ![]() | |||
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"I go for a bit of both! I enjoy chatting and having a couple of drinks, meeting old friends and new friends then disappearing off for a bit of fun then coming back for more chatting but I find some single guys seem to think that because they've paid to get in they are guaranteed sex and can be pests but most are lovely and respectful women can afford to do that they either get in free or a nominal fee for men its slightly different because of the cost to get in ![]() ![]() hey I'm very social but i wouldn't pay £30-70 to get into a club to socialise, its expensive enough without the entry cost i like clubs and I'm a gent but i don't go to socialise ![]() | |||
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"I go for a bit of both! I enjoy chatting and having a couple of drinks, meeting old friends and new friends then disappearing off for a bit of fun then coming back for more chatting but I find some single guys seem to think that because they've paid to get in they are guaranteed sex and can be pests but most are lovely and respectful women can afford to do that they either get in free or a nominal fee for men its slightly different because of the cost to get in ![]() ![]() ![]() Happy to open our doors again at some point to those without this expectation! ![]() | |||
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"Totally agree with comments about how enjoyable the social side can be but it's all underpinned by the latent possibility of sex, the chance to experience that powerful chemistry and surrender to it on the spot - however infrequently that may happen in practice. To put it bluntly, sex is not essential but the possibility of it is. " ![]() | |||
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"I go for a bit of both! I enjoy chatting and having a couple of drinks, meeting old friends and new friends then disappearing off for a bit of fun then coming back for more chatting but I find some single guys seem to think that because they've paid to get in they are guaranteed sex and can be pests but most are lovely and respectful women can afford to do that they either get in free or a nominal fee for men its slightly different because of the cost to get in ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Although we do not always play at clubs, the option is there so if it wasnt then we would not pay to go in when you can go to a pub for free " You can still dress and dance sexy, plus a bit of flirting. Can't do that in a pub, well not any we go in lol | |||
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"Although we do not always play at clubs, the option is there so if it wasnt then we would not pay to go in when you can go to a pub for free You can still dress and dance sexy, plus a bit of flirting. Can't do that in a pub, well not any we go in lol " That's true but would rather save my cash to be honest as I can have sex with my husband at home ![]() | |||
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"Although we do not always play at clubs, the option is there so if it wasnt then we would not pay to go in when you can go to a pub for free You can still dress and dance sexy, plus a bit of flirting. Can't do that in a pub, well not any we go in lol That's true but would rather save my cash to be honest as I can have sex with my husband at home ![]() We get this totally, no point paying for anything you can get for free, but that's not the offering, and no where as yet have we mentioned costs! The question is more about the grey area inbetween, being watched by others in a dungeon maybe, chilling with friends over a wine in the jacuzzi, just catching up with each other, admiring some lass pole dancing, getting naked for the night with others.....and so on. This is all just to keep the interest going as we get through these dark times, and once allowed to socialise more, then bit by bit if required, we can break down the barriers and get back to being seriously naughty. ![]() | |||
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"Great idea! I think I'll have to come to the club sometime. I have been meaning to visit for years. ![]() Would be more than welcome once we re-open, x | |||
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"You won’t be able to use the jacuzzi " I was thinking the same, surely the jacuzzi would be out of bounds or is the fact the chemicals are in there it falls in to a “swimming pool” position ?????????? That said not sure they are open in gyms or will be when gyms open. I think it will be watch from 1metre away minimum, to start with. | |||
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"Very very well put. We play less than half the time. And always go home happy." Agreed. We enjoy the social side as much as the sexy, and happily hang out at clubs without necessarily indulging ![]() | |||
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" Do you need to have sex in a club? " Bit like being asked if you'd like french fries in McDonalds! ![]() | |||
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" Do you need to have sex in a club? Bit like being asked if you'd like french fries in McDonalds! ![]() More like asking if you "have" to have french fries at McDonalds. ![]() | |||
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" Do you need to have sex in a club? Bit like being asked if you'd like french fries in McDonalds! ![]() ![]() Sometimes we go into McDonalds just for a coffee!! We could happily have a club night with social distancing. Dancing, voyeurism, exhibitionism ![]() | |||
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" Do you need to have sex in a club? Bit like being asked if you'd like french fries in McDonalds! ![]() ![]() ![]() But would you still in MacDonalds if you had to pay £50 to look at Yr coffee ? | |||
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"People go to clubs for different reason. Some go knowing they will play, some go just for a social and some go with the attitude if play happens it happens but if it doesn’t they are not bothered. I think people would be happy to pay a full price admission to meet with like minded adults. If they meet with someone then at the end of the night they can go to a hotel of back to their place and have fun. " Would you really be happy to pay £50+ to chat to people? I know we wouldn't. | |||
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"People go to clubs for different reason. Some go knowing they will play, some go just for a social and some go with the attitude if play happens it happens but if it doesn’t they are not bothered. I think people would be happy to pay a full price admission to meet with like minded adults. If they meet with someone then at the end of the night they can go to a hotel of back to their place and have fun. " ![]() ![]() | |||
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" Would you really be happy to pay £50+ to chat to people? I know we wouldn't. " Unless social distancing has ended swingers clubs cannot operate. You would be paying high price admission to sit 2 metres apart, in a venue that probably doesn't have a liquor licence, drinking your own alcohol, and not being able to interact. Hardly a recipe for success. I can't imagine many single men, upon whom clubs depend for revenue, would attend under these circumstances. Clubs are commercial businesses that need to make a profit and couldn't afford to open their doors to the few. | |||
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" Do you need to have sex in a club? Bit like being asked if you'd like french fries in McDonalds! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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" OP are there any rules for gyms, theatres or nudist places that you could adapt/ use for the club? Clear perspex dividers in play rooms maybe, so people could fuck on a big bed but with the divider in place. Would seem weird to start with but some restaurants will be using this tactic so people will get used to it. " I don't know about anyone else, but halfway through the session I'd be wanting to tear down the perspex divider! The lifting of social distancing will be the trigger for clubs to reopen. | |||
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"What’s the point of going to swingers clubs if there is no chance of having sex ? Might as well go to a social club " Do you not feel if you go to the same one regularly though it IS your social club? | |||
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