FabSwingers.com forum: Outlook still grim for clubs....

By *orderboyblue OP Man
over a year ago

Scottish Borders

Not a great deal offered by BoJo tonight.

Not sure what you can read into it..... When's the earliest a swingers club might re open?

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"Not a great deal offered by BoJo tonight.

Not sure what you can read into it..... When's the earliest a swingers club might re open? "

Do you really think that what the Govt (or Prime Minister specifically) says will impact the future viability of re-opening a Swingers a club?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends if Bojo knows any members of Killing Kittens or Le Boudoir!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Social distancing and clubs isn't possible unless they have outdoor areas and 2 metre tape separators.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Goodbye to clubs .social distancing is going to be part of our lives for along time .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ain’t gonna be this year...

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By *eorge JetsonMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

"Goodbye to clubs .social distancing is going to be part of our lives for along time .

Unfortunately i fully agree.

Our little recreational adventure playgrounds aren't funded, backed or even welcomed by councils and governments.

With lockdown thoroughly burning into highstreet companies financial backup funds now they are starting to fall by the wayside, clubs rely fully on paying members just to stay on even ground at the best of times.

I dread to think how many will close forever due to this virus.

Its sad to see the owners who have poured years of hard work into keeping them open now staring at a possible closure through no fault of their own.

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

Maybe the owners or managers of the venues can find a temporary use for the buildings, that can bring in the revenue they need, and then when the time is right they can then open their doors at once again to the lifestyle.

There are only questions at the moment, nobody knows what's going to happen, it's impossible to predict, but I do do feel so grateful to the many clubs that I have have had fabulous experiences in and met wonderful people, I hope in the future I get the chance to support them once again when the time is right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Goodbye to clubs .social distancing is going to be part of our lives for along time .

Sadly this is correct. Moreover I do not think life will be the same again

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By *oAnCouple
over a year ago

Streatham

It isn't just clubs but all places where we will be in contact with others such as spas, swimming pools, gyms, cinemas, all sorts of sports centres and this isn't even mentioning pubs and restaurants - it is such a mess - but we had better think of some workaround because as humans we need social contact and we cannot just watch our whole world implode because of a communist virus!

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By *niper oneMan
over a year ago

DERBY/Notts border

Clubs 12 month from now minimum but poss 24 month.Anyone one who remotely thinks before that is a dreamer.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Clubs gyms pubs cinemas will not open before Xmas sadly because of social distances

More and more people being tested but can't see the point personally as tests only valid for day you take them nothing stopping you getting virus a week later

We are moving our Aug holiday to year after as even if they allow flights this year most places will have some restrictions in place

Sadly 2020 can be written off

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By *ewarkMarkMan
over a year ago

Waterford

Clubs may re open again in 2021 sometime. But clubs as we know, sorry, as we knew them will never be the same. Go for pubs, clubs, cinemas, gyms and all else too. No easy solution but will all have to get used to the ‘new’ normal!!!

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By *he fab twoCouple
over a year ago

brentwood

I’m still optimistic that they will reopen with pubs, after all its just a drinking establishment really with very friendly drinkers inside! What the social distancing will do to people’s willingness to play with strangers may be something else, but I think as time goes on people will just slowly become less scared and slip back into old ways!

I’m expecting one hell of a horny sex starved party when they do open

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Clubs 12 month from now minimum but poss 24 month.Anyone one who remotely thinks before that is a dreamer."

And your official source of this is???????

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish

Fingers crossed for all our favourite clubs. Sure the well run ones will adapt and flourish in time.

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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago

harrow

"Ain’t gonna be this year..."

Ain't gonna be 2021 either!

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

Going to one hell of a boring life

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

I have heard that a large vintage tractor show, traditionally held every Rememberance Sunday is likely to be cancelled. That`s just people walking around and talking - normal, everyday stuff.

Clubs open by then? I hope so, I think everybody does! In reality? Who knows?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Social distancing in a swingers club is possible but that would make it just a social club with no swinging.

That is the only way that the clubs can run for a while and with limited people in the clubs. That is is the only way that you can support a club if possible.

Otherwise it will probably be next year.

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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago

harrow

"Social distancing in a swingers club is possible but that would make it just a social club with no swinging.

That is the only way that the clubs can run for a while and with limited people in the clubs. That is is the only way that you can support a club if possible.

Otherwise it will probably be next year. "

So what's gonna change next year?

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

What was the reason they closed , was it listed as a business type in the emergency law introduced or did they close because people visiting them would be going against the government advice ?

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

Just been reading a similar thread on the German site that we use.

Most seem to think that clubs will start to open again in the Autumn, but there are some optimists who think that July is a possibility, one or two even think June. Personally I doubt it.

I suppose there would be a slim chance for the Autumn but my gut feeling is that nothing in the sex industry will re-open this year.

Whenever it finally does happen I really worry how many will be left.

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By *ohnlewis1Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I am possibly more optimistic than some on here about the prospects of clubs surviving. Pre Covid there were a variety of different business models ranging from enthusiastic amateurs operating on shoestrings to well funded sex clubs run professionally. There are many in between with some which looked like fronts for more money laundering/ other nefarious activities.

Where the proprietor owns rather than leases the premises and have salaried staff ; I think there will be a better than evens chance these will reopen whenever this is possible - this year or next year. I think clubs will only be viable once there is a vaccine. Many clubs which looked financially stressed before Covid will probably close but the reality is quite a lot close anyway. Business is tough at the best of times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Social distancing in a swingers club is possible but that would make it just a social club with no swinging.

That is the only way that the clubs can run for a while and with limited people in the clubs. That is is the only way that you can support a club if possible.

Otherwise it will probably be next year.

So what's gonna change next year?"
Rather hope that the virus is under control by then and that we have anti dope.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Clubs gyms pubs cinemas will not open before Xmas sadly because of social distances

actually i am going to be a little bit more optimistic with some of those....

I think you could open gyms and cinema's with social distancing (so all those running with reduced capacities...)

I could see pubs with large areas (actually this is where someone like a wtherspoons could open) or beer gardens opening.... again with spacing guidelines, at seat service ect.....

whether any of those would be profitable running at such reduced capacity may be a different question

clubs and nightclubs i don't see coming back for a long,long time now, especially if it does spike again in the autumn!

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Agree with the gyms

They could cut class sizes and reduce class times so could fit in more classes

Gym floor restrictions could be put into place

Provide antibac so equip can be cleaned before n after use

Could also ask members to book a time to use gym so numbers can be controlled

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By *nnnikCouple
over a year ago

Walsall

When the football season reopens is the day clubs should have no problem either... Nik

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By *ncubus XMan
over a year ago

midlands - glasgow - islands

Places like clubs and sex cinemas are sure to be either made to shut or have very few customers due to social distancing until herd immunity or vaccine but remember we have never got either of these for common cold which is a Coronavirus.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Think if everyone is waiting for a magic cure then they will be waiting for years

Best we can hope for is a flu type vaccination which only reduces the symptoms and doesn't stop you still getting it or dying from it if your elderly or have underlying illnesses

The way virus mutate it will hard to eradicate it totally but as with most virus people will build up an immune system to it

They now saying many already had it in Nov n Dec some were that mild they never realised they had it

We want to look on the optimistic side of things

The ammount of deaths have been awful but many more have recovered than died so that's a plus to hold onto

Having been at work all through this has helped with stress many are suffering from in isolation

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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago

harrow

"Social distancing in a swingers club is possible but that would make it just a social club with no swinging.

That is the only way that the clubs can run for a while and with limited people in the clubs. That is is the only way that you can support a club if possible.

Otherwise it will probably be next year.

So what's gonna change next year? Rather hope that the virus is under control by then and that we have anti dope. "

Wishful thinking . No such thing as 'controlling' a virus - it's out there and unfortunately it's not going anywhere. We can maybe control the amount of people infected at similar times with restrictions but that's just about it. Have to hope for a vaccine but that's a big if

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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago

harrow

"Think if everyone is waiting for a magic cure then they will be waiting for years

Best we can hope for is a flu type vaccination which only reduces the symptoms and doesn't stop you still getting it or dying from it if your elderly or have underlying illnesses

The way virus mutate it will hard to eradicate it totally but as with most virus people will build up an immune system to it

They now saying many already had it in Nov n Dec some were that mild they never realised they had it

We want to look on the optimistic side of things

The ammount of deaths have been awful but many more have recovered than died so that's a plus to hold onto

Having been at work all through this has helped with stress many are suffering from in isolation "

A flu type vaccine reducing symptoms etc would be a hugely successful outcome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m still optimistic that they will reopen with pubs, after all its just a drinking establishment really with very friendly drinkers inside! What the social distancing will do to people’s willingness to play with strangers may be something else, but I think as time goes on people will just slowly become less scared and slip back into old ways!

I’m expecting one hell of a horny sex starved party when they do open "

Absolutely, there’s no difference between this and the local bar/restaurant. In so much as distance etc. and you telling me that NO one will enter into a new relationship this side of cure Covid!!

Open clubs July, also give with other places IF numbers permt. Ie R remains below 1.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"Think if everyone is waiting for a magic cure then they will be waiting for years

Best we can hope for is a flu type vaccination which only reduces the symptoms and doesn't stop you still getting it or dying from it if your elderly or have underlying illnesses

The way virus mutate it will hard to eradicate it totally but as with most virus people will build up an immune system to it

They now saying many already had it in Nov n Dec some were that mild they never realised they had it

We want to look on the optimistic side of things

The ammount of deaths have been awful but many more have recovered than died so that's a plus to hold onto

Having been at work all through this has helped with stress many are suffering from in isolation

A flu type vaccine reducing symptoms etc would be a hugely successful outcome"

Agree but even with the flu jab over 6000 people a year still die from flu

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton

"Goodbye to clubs .social distancing is going to be part of our lives for along time .

Unfortunately i fully agree.

Our little recreational adventure playgrounds aren't funded, backed or even welcomed by councils and governments.

I dread to think how many will close forever due to this virus.

Its sad to see the owners who have poured years of hard work into keeping them open now staring at a possible closure through no fault of their own.

The same goes for pubs, cafes, night clubs and most of the leisure industry

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By *ude boy 2017Man
over a year ago

Bolton

Let's see what happens in July when some restaurants and bars open more things might open later

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By *ary_ArgyllMan
over a year ago

Argyll

"It isn't just clubs but all places where we will be in contact with others such as spas, swimming pools, gyms, cinemas, all sorts of sports centres and this isn't even mentioning pubs and restaurants - it is such a mess - but we had better think of some workaround because as humans we need social contact and we cannot just watch our whole world implode because of a communist virus!"

I don't think the virus has a political affiliation -

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clubs won’t open for a long time.

Only place it will be possible to play is in private houses with trusted known people

The idea of meeting strangers in clubs is gone for a long time if not forever until a cure and a vaccine are found

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Clubs won’t open for a long time.

Only place it will be possible to play is in private houses with trusted known people

The idea of meeting strangers in clubs is gone for a long time if not forever until a cure and a vaccine are found "

I really hope you are wrong, but I fear that you are right.

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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago

harrow

"Clubs won’t open for a long time.

Only place it will be possible to play is in private houses with trusted known people

The idea of meeting strangers in clubs is gone for a long time if not forever until a cure and a vaccine are found

I really hope you are wrong, but I fear that you are right.

Yep, sadly they are gone. Maybe not forever but certainly for a few years

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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago

Loughborough

The problem is that social distancing is here to stay for a long time.

Forget about a vaccine; it may happen, it may not. You can't plan your future around something that doesn't exist.

Straight off the bat, playrooms will have to be closed. Any club with playrooms open for use will probably face a lot of trouble/possible closure from their local authority, so when they do reopen they will be strictly social clubs.

When you go to a pub/restaurant/cinema you are not there to mingle, meet new people and socialise, so any social distancing measures introduced will have have a small to medium impact on business through reduced capacity.

For a swingers club the main reason most people go IS to mingle, meet new people and socialise. But now club owners are faced with having half their club (playrooms) shut and tables having 2m markers around them, or perspex dividers, whilst telling their patrons not to mix with each other. Most people hang around the bar at clubs as it's easier to get chatting to others, that is also gone out the window as we're probably looking at places serving food and drink indoors will have to provide table service.

It's a fucking nightmare scenario for club owners.

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By *ude boy 2017Man
over a year ago

Bolton

They mention that gym and leisure facilities July and August so clubs surely can not be that far behind

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"They mention that gym and leisure facilities July and August so clubs surely can not be that far behind "

How is going to the gym, using machines on your own which could easily be spaced out 2 metres apart be similar to clubs where people go to have sex with strangers, skin to skin? The comparison of the 2 are poles apart

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Social distancing in a swingers club is possible but that would make it just a social club with no swinging.

That is the only way that the clubs can run for a while and with limited people in the clubs. That is is the only way that you can support a club if possible.

Otherwise it will probably be next year. "

They could do it just by allowing couples who are together and regular fwb’s but not random singles. Others to social interact with a 2m gap.

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

"They mention that gym and leisure facilities July and August so clubs surely can not be that far behind

The thought of all of those unfit people coming back to rowing machines, treadmills and the like worries me! The fact that you breath harder when working out with make any virus spores or droplets travel much further than normal. It`s in concentration too so looking at it like this means I`d sooner be in a club than in a gym! OK, I`m a lazy git too which helps my reasoning!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They could do it just by allowing couples who are together and regular fwb’s but not random singles. Others to social interact with a 2m gap. "

But why go to a club just to do that ?

Simpler and easier to do it in a private house if you can.

The main reason people go to clubs is to meet new people - ie strangers.

Will people still want to do that even if clubs are allowed to open ?

And now the Health and Safety Executive has now been given the task of inspecting all premises to ensure they are social distancing.

So sadly it’s goodbye to clubs for the foreseeable future.

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"They could do it just by allowing couples who are together and regular fwb’s but not random singles. Others to social interact with a 2m gap.

But why go to a club just to do that ?

Simpler and easier to do it in a private house if you can.

The main reason people go to clubs is to meet new people - ie strangers.

Will people still want to do that even if clubs are allowed to open ?

And now the Health and Safety Executive has now been given the task of inspecting all premises to ensure they are social distancing.

So sadly it’s goodbye to clubs for the foreseeable future. "

Well myself and my FWB went to a club for that reason, neither of us accommodate for personal reasons.

Also there is a social aspect of clubs.

I see no reason why they can’t open with some rules in place.

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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago

harrow

"They mention that gym and leisure facilities July and August so clubs surely can not be that far behind "

Dear oh dear. What a comparison!

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"They mention that gym and leisure facilities July and August so clubs surely can not be that far behind

Dear oh dear. What a comparison!"

Lol

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By *lan157Man
over a year ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex

The scene will revert to private parties and one to one meets in my opinion. At least for the foreseeable future.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They mention that gym and leisure facilities July and August so clubs surely can not be that far behind

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By *ensualpleasures69Man
over a year ago

leeds

Now the furlough has been extended to the end of October i think we`ve seen the end of clubs till at least that time.

A large majority of fuloughed workers are in the hospitality trade whether it be hotels,pubs, venues even "our" clubs, they want to keep them shut.

Private parties will be the only way until then.

I really hope i`m wrong!!

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By *otwife and the HubbyCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

"Now the furlough has been extended to the end of October i think we`ve seen the end of clubs till at least that time.

A large majority of fuloughed workers are in the hospitality trade whether it be hotels,pubs, venues even "our" clubs, they want to keep them shut.

Private parties will be the only way until then.

I really hope i`m wrong!!"

Unfortunately I think that you are bang on.!!!

Although when private parties are allowed, I am sure it will be very much welcomed by the swinging world.

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By *nnnikCouple
over a year ago

Walsall

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By *eordiesCouple
over a year ago

newcastle

"Now the furlough has been extended to the end of October i think we`ve seen the end of clubs till at least that time.

A large majority of fuloughed workers are in the hospitality trade whether it be hotels,pubs, venues even "our" clubs, they want to keep them shut.

Private parties will be the only way until then.

I really hope i`m wrong!!

Unfortunately I think that you are bang on.!!!

Although when private parties are allowed, I am sure it will be very much welcomed by the swinging world. "

I can just see Boris at the daily briefing saying;

"Yes, from next Wednesday swingers are again allowed to meet. Not in clubs but private party's only".

And then Robert Pest and Laura Kuntburg discussing the in's and out's of swinging.

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By *oveoldercouples99Man
over a year ago

Merton

Providing swingers clubs can survive financially I’m certain they will be able to reopen at some point. Perhaps in the autumn as others suggest. I would say that gay saunas will definitely reopen at some point for men to have casual sex. At that point swingers clubs should open too.

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By *inkyman1964Man
over a year ago

Stoke-on-Trent

"Now the furlough has been extended to the end of October i think we`ve seen the end of clubs till at least that time.

A large majority of fuloughed workers are in the hospitality trade whether it be hotels,pubs, venues even "our" clubs, they want to keep them shut.

Private parties will be the only way until then.

I really hope i`m wrong!!"

The government is trying to get businesses reopened and everyone back to work in steps. Pubs etc are looking at ways they can get customers back in. Clubs will follow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They mention that gym and leisure facilities July and August so clubs surely can not be that far behind

As a gym member...lifting weights, bars, touching pins in machines, moving benches, adjusting seating etc etc there’s no way members will clean down the devices that they touch. They can’t even put weights back, so asking them to clean them is not going to happen. I get the skin-skin difference, but it’s still possible for others to leave / catch the virus.

From touching items.

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

"They mention that gym and leisure facilities July and August so clubs surely can not be that far behind

See my comment above! Loads of sweaty people gulping air in and out in larger quantities in a relatively confined area? Not a lot different to skin on skin body contact if you think more about!

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"They mention that gym and leisure facilities July and August so clubs surely can not be that far behind

From touching items."

I am a weight lifter and our gym spaced out equipment, reduced numbers in the gym and had anti bac at every station before the lockdown. So roughly about 1 week before, the gym radically changed. Because a lot of people weren't taking Covid seriously, only a small number of people were using the anti bac. I think now, most people would, just to get back into the gym; they would adhere to the guidelines, just to ensure that they could restart their training. I witnessed benches being wiped down, dumb bell, barbell bars, bench press and deadlift bars being cleaning.

What won't happen is things like deadlift clamps, weight machine pins, disc weights etc...being wiped down. However, I think if everyone had a very quick induction back into the gym as to how people should clean and handle the equipment, most would adhere to it, just so they don't lose the gym again.

I was in the gym on the afternoon of lockdown. It was dead and it was a great session, but I miss it so much!!! I would bend over backwards with cleaning just to get back in as my own free weights just aren't heavy and sturdy enough.

In the gym, most people keep themselves to themselves and socially distance just because they are focussed. The main issue is flyiing sweat, which isn't too bad if equipment is spaced out and cleaning. If these can be addressed, then it shouldn't be too hard. The changing rooms are also an issue, but maybe close them. Make people go home sweaty and shower at home.

Clubs are all about up close conversation, flirting, bare skin, groups of people having a laugh together prior to going upstairs, dancing (in our club) and a packed space (again, in our club). Then there's the actual play itself. There is no way a swingers club can socially distance and operate as a swingers club. But a gym can operate as a gym, socially distance and attempt to encourage people to clean equipment.

Vicky xx

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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"Goodbye to clubs .social distancing is going to be part of our lives for along time .

Goodbye swinging too. It's going to be measured in years not months ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They mention that gym and leisure facilities July and August so clubs surely can not be that far behind

From touching items.

Vicky xx "

I think you highlight the biggest misconception, the biggest issue isn’t flying sweat, contact etc. sure, if it gets onto surfaces and hands then rubbed into eyes of mouths etc yes that is a problem but as you suggest careful cleaning of areas and more importantly hand cleansing is a fairly robust defence against that.

A guy or girl using a set of equipment is going to stay for a period of time and breath (in this case heavily), that will put a cloud of infectious particles into air of the immediate surroundings. That station can then undergo the complete ‘Kim and Aggy’ bleach treatment... it doesn’t matter, the next person coming into that cloud and given even a short stay whilst working out is likely to breath in enough particles to give them the virus. It takes between 4-6 hours for the particles to drop from the atmosphere indoors so obviously the potential for a number of people to use that space is high, add to that the other spaces the infected person uses and suddenly it’s just ridiculously high risk.

Obviously the same would apply to clubs, playrooms, bars etc. When we think of ‘club life’ our first concern might be snogging Covid man/woman but in reality using the playroom Covid man used a few hours before is also highly likely to get you too, in both scenarios you also have no defence really.

It’s a tricky one to solve, open windows, through winds etc help clear the air but when you have people in the area who are infected you then just help carry the virus across to other areas and potentially infect more people.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"They mention that gym and leisure facilities July and August so clubs surely can not be that far behind

From touching items.

Vicky xx

Our gym has contacted all members and have said that they are installing massive industrial extractors and air con units in the ceilings to try suck out bad air and replenish it with clean air. Who knows if this will work?!

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By *oveLife2Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Possibly a fantasy, but in early days afterwards....A facemask may be de-rigour, and in dungeons (such as Route69 ) use paddles & whips.....Game On...

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By *nnnikCouple
over a year ago

Walsall

"Goodbye to clubs .social distancing is going to be part of our lives for along time .

Goodbye swinging too. It's going to be measured in years not months ..."

It will go to the old days couples meeting in houses.. Nik

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We think clubs are gonna die of if not from the virus from lack of attendance the income wont even pay to turn the place on so sad we also think dogging gonna be bigger that's our thought good luck guys

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By *inkyman1964Man
over a year ago

Stoke-on-Trent

"We think clubs are gonna die of if not from the virus from lack of attendance the income wont even pay to turn the place on so sad we also think dogging gonna be bigger that's our thought good luck guys "

You might find Clubs busier than ever when they reopen! People having been in lockdown and unable to meet their friends for weeks or months.

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By *urrey Dave 69Man
over a year ago

Epsom, Surrey

"You might find Clubs busier than ever when they reopen! People having been in lockdown and unable to meet their friends for weeks or months."

You are right after lockdown there will be some folks even more keen to attend a club but unfortunately i think the offset number of people who won't want to take a risk will be significantly greater.

Over time hopefully more and more will start considering the risk acceptable.

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

Since medieval times there have been plagues, war and religious intolerance which largely should have meant sexual activity in establishments would have ceased. Sexual social history shows people still met and not in private houses.

Humanity faced by everyday risk increases it's tolerance for risk.

There is a great scene in "Cry Freedom" where Steve Biko still plays rugby in public despite being hunted by the South African apartheid authorities.

I remember at the height of the mad cow scare watching the local supermarket reduce the price of its beef products which were immediately snapped up price conscious buyers.

I suspect in a pretty short time if the infection rates drop, some form of normalcy will return. That is if the local authorities permit the clubs to open.

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By *ebwizMan
over a year ago

Clevedon

Clubs have said they are guided by public health England, so not much help if they say its a no go.

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By *ohnlewis1Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I’m more worried that the word “normalcy” has leaked into common usage. Y’all have a nice day now.

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By *nmgCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

It all depends on 2 factors... The development of a vaccine and the ability to avoid a second spike.

A vaccine will see clubs able to open very quickly, a second spike would condemn us all to the purgatory of lockdown for God knows how long (in addition to killing the economy and all the fun that entails!)

A few people think pubs & clubs etc could re-open with distancing controls? No chance! How do you control toilets? Bar areas? Entrance/ exit? This can be achieved in a workplace where Draconian measures can make it work, but it would be almost impossible in a pub or club.

The real answer is that nobody knows. I'm afraid we just have to wait it out, see what happens, follow the rules and remember the good times!

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"You might find Clubs busier than ever when they reopen! People having been in lockdown and unable to meet their friends for weeks or months.

Over time hopefully more and more will start considering the risk acceptable. "

How the surviving clubs fare when they re-open will depend on the ratio between two factors.

How many clubs survive and how many people back away from clubs.

A simple example would be that 50% of clubs survive but 50% of clubbers back away.

Overall result for the surviving clubs would be as you were. Of course there would be localised ups and downs but the overall picture would be the same.

Should more clubs survive and more people back away then numbers per club would be down. Equally if less clubs survive and less back away then they will be busier.

It really is crystal ball territory at the moment.

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By *ebwizMan
over a year ago

Clevedon

The 50% idea is difficult due to geographical locations of clubs. For us in South West chams in Birmingham was about as far as we wanted to travel. No easy answers.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"The 50% idea is difficult due to geographical locations of clubs. For us in South West chams in Birmingham was about as far as we wanted to travel. No easy answers. "

The 50% thing was just for illustration and, like I said, there will be localised ups and downs, but I was looking more at the big picture.

But yes, there are no easy answers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m expecting one hell of a horny sex starved party when they do open "

thats what im hopeing lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cinemas etc need to return so much revenue per seat, so if half of seats have to remain empty, the other half will double in price, will it really work?

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"Cinemas etc need to return so much revenue per seat, so if half of seats have to remain empty, the other half will double in price, will it really work?"
I've been to a movie many times and been the only person in there lol

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By *inkyCoupleForYouCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

Really well put..

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By *allyandJonCouple
over a year ago

manchester

Contact tracing, mass testing and containment are the future. If clubs open and tracing of the virus indicates they are a risk they will be shut down.

We love the swinging life but won't risk anything as it is at present or the foreseeable future. It looks like this could go on for 2 years plus. What this all means for the club scene and swinging will no doubt be deeply affected unfortunately. Suspect it will be considered high risk if traced to a virus hot spot and then it would be contained and regulated.

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By *utie91Woman
over a year ago

Hitchin

I just think it’s really sad,

Can’t see clubs re-opening for a long time. And I only do meets in clubs, so that’s me out of the lifestyle for a while. We need to get more research into immunity for those who have had the virus, that might give us some hope.

This virus will never go away. It will eventually just become a part of everyday life, like Mrsa did, the hospitals panicked for a year or 2, now they just deal with it when it pops up again.

The good news is that there will still be a demand for clubs when they reopen. Just if they can make it through. I hope all clubs are taking advantage of furlough schemes and government grants (maybe not the loans)

They will definitely have my support on re-opening. I’m pretty sure I’ve already had covid myself and I work in a high risk environment for it and have managed not to get it again in the last 8 weeks, so there must be some level of protection with antibodies, I suppose it’s just for how long.

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By *utie91Woman
over a year ago

Hitchin

"Cinemas etc need to return so much revenue per seat, so if half of seats have to remain empty, the other half will double in price, will it really work?"

I actually think cinemas (that survive) might do ok after this.. over recent years they have had dwindling numbers anyway. But people might fancy a trip to the cinema more having not been allowed to go for a few months, so it might help pick the business back up.

I dunno, just a theory

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We dont expect to be visiting a club again until around 2022/23 ... hopefully there are some left.

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By *he fab twoCouple
over a year ago

brentwood

"Think if everyone is waiting for a magic cure then they will be waiting for years

Best we can hope for is a flu type vaccination which only reduces the symptoms and doesn't stop you still getting it or dying from it if your elderly or have underlying illnesses

The way virus mutate it will hard to eradicate it totally but as with most virus people will build up an immune system to it

They now saying many already had it in Nov n Dec some were that mild they never realised they had it

We want to look on the optimistic side of things

The ammount of deaths have been awful but many more have recovered than died so that's a plus to hold onto

Having been at work all through this has helped with stress many are suffering from in isolation "

I had it and was bad in March before lock down, I know lots who have had it too , none I was in contact with either!

They won’t bring out a special guideline for swingers clubs it will just come under heading of drinkers clubs and reopen but how many will want to go after this?

We all need to just get back to normal and build herd immunity like you say it ain’t going away

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By *he fab twoCouple
over a year ago

brentwood

"Clubs won’t open for a long time.

Only place it will be possible to play is in private houses with trusted known people

The idea of meeting strangers in clubs is gone for a long time if not forever until a cure and a vaccine are found "

So you can’t catch it if you know the people?

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By *he fab twoCouple
over a year ago

brentwood

Ok just some thoughts

Fetish’s clubs will be ok everyone wears a mask lol and how about a glory hole club? Proper social distancing that

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