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"Sounds a crazy idea to me from the privacy aspect - having no idea who is looking at you !" Oh, I think this is just something we have to get used to. After all, how many 'silhouettes' are peeking the cams at any one time ...? Those people could be anybody (my co-workers, my Dad! ) This site is great because it's free, but it does mean that we all have to take care of our own privacy, in the way that suits us best (e.g. I never show my face, and if my Dad's here he wouldn't recognise my boobs LOL). I used to get annoyed and block the "silent watchers" (or am I thinking of a different word beginning with "w"? ), but I've got to the stage where I just can't be bothered to block them. And if site supporters can see me without me knowing that they're watching .... I really just don't care! | |||
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"I have to admit, that sounds rubish. I am a supporter and am not realy interested in carrying on being viewed by people that I can't tell are viewing me...............Am seriously wondering if I will carry on paying to use the site now............." yep it a bit worrying if ya not knowing who viewing you so dont think i be on cam any more bit frightening that | |||
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"i agree with lil on this one... not sure i like the idea of people sneaking about.. i know if we puyt our cams on there there to be seen, but i know a few folk that will turn off their cams if certain folk come in.. ie work they work with etc.... or an ex etc " i also agree with fifey and lil on this one | |||
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"i agree with lil on this one... not sure i like the idea of people sneaking about.. i know if we puyt our cams on there there to be seen, but i know a few folk that will turn off their cams if certain folk come in.. ie work they work with etc.... or an ex etc i also agree with fifey and lil on this one " I totally agree. It begs the question why would u need to view a cam without anyone knowing? After we had trouble before with newspapers trying to make fake profiles it would be too easy for them to record people with cameras. Or are the owners of the site going with no publicity is bad publicity. Who knows but this feature while earning the site money. (which I have absolutely no objection to) may end up ruining peoples life. Its takong the control away form the users own level of security and with all the stuff thats been in thje news lately about internet security I feel this is one feature too far | |||
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"you all no that any one can veiw ya cam and take it to another room in new chat .... so whats the difference??? " its the fact u dnt know who might be viewing ur cam if they r in stealth mode... ppl like to see who is viewing there cam by watching icons | |||
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"but why bring it up now .... new chat has been up 8 months ish and you can take a cam to different room. so its took peeps months to say anything when it was in the forums months ago and didnt get much feed back " ppl are bringing it up now because a new threads been started and opinions are asked....ppl dont like the fact that they are being watched on cam and ppl can see ur convo and u have no idea they r watching....u have a basic right to know you are being watched | |||
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"instead of reducing room size stop non site supporters from entering certain rooms or have no cam no entry rooms " good idea! sorts the real people out from the fakes | |||
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"Really dont like the idea of anonymous viewing, now and again if you find a quiet room for you and someone to have fun discretely means someone else could be watching. its a bit weird to be honest." That won't happen, it is only if rooms are full that site supporters could get in....if there is only you and another you would see them in the room list | |||
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"but why bring it up now .... new chat has been up 8 months ish and you can take a cam to different room. so its took peeps months to say anything when it was in the forums months ago and didnt get much feed back " But the user was still fully aware who wad on their cam. Start in room 1, switch cam on, 10 people view. You see who those peeps are. Move room and yes those 10 peeps can still your cam but at least you saw who was watching initially. With the change, someone who is on read only mode could watch a cam and you wouldn't see them at all. That's not right. Ok, blank profiles watch cams, we can if we like block them so we need a block lurkers option. Admin did say that they can add this option so am sure with constructive feedback they can. S. | |||
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"But the user was still fully aware who wad on their cam. Start in room 1, switch cam on, 10 people view. You see who those peeps are. Move room and yes those 10 peeps can still your cam but at least you saw who was watching initially. " It works the other way round too though don't forget so if "sneak user" started viewing your cam then immediately switched rooms, you'd never see them on your list. Admin x | |||
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"Why is there only 1 General chatroom and yet there are 5 Directing rooms ? Do you not think people end up in directing because they can't get in general, which then skews figures of how many like General chat and would use General if there was an additional room." We rarely (ever?) see General full, if we do with the new lower room limits we will add a second general chat. Admin x | |||
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"Why is there only 1 General chatroom and yet there are 5 Directing rooms ? Do you not think people end up in directing because they can't get in general, which then skews figures of how many like General chat and would use General if there was an additional room. We rarely (ever?) see General full, if we do with the new lower room limits we will add a second general chat. Admin x" We see it's pretty much full now we've made another room just need to restart chat service for it to show. We'll do this today when chat is slightly quieter. Admin x | |||
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"Admin... you have not given any reason to us why you thought we wanted a change to the viewing of cams....what made you think supporters of this site wanted this change....looking at all the negative feedback on this change it is obvious people would prefer to see who is watching their cams....or is there a hidden agenda for this??? " We've had a lot of feedback that people are frustrated when rooms are full. We've also had a lot of feedback that rooms are too quick when full. There's no hidden agenda other than improving the site for the benefit of the community. As we say above, if there are still concerns in a a day or two after we've monitored how this change works in real life, we'll introduce an opt out on the PRIVACY page from where you can block view-only users in full rooms from seeing your cam. Don't forget though that the chat rooms are open to all site members and people have always been able to view your cam without you seeing who (as explained above; worth reading the full thread). So we absolutely take everyone's feedback on board and we'll continue to monitor. More feedback welcome Admin x | |||
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"not a good idea as this stops other non site support members waiting in line to get in as we have to wait longer to see the volume drop to 174 members. this feels like a slipery way of trying to get us all to upgrade to site supporters and a slow way of making this a non free site." It doesn't work like that, the site supporters in view-only mode are not counted as part of the number in the room so it makes exactly no difference to whether non site supporters can enter the room. Admin x | |||
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"We go into the rooms to chat. We also go on cam, which the majority do not. As with nearly all the persons on this link we are site supporters. We want to be able to go into rooms and chat, not just pervee without anyone knowing we are there, and would prefer all the others in the room to be on cam. We would also love to know which rooms our friends are in as joining them adds to our pleasure and contributes to a rooms general chatter. Must say neither of us is really keen on these changes that seem to pander to non site supporters." At least someone thinks this panders to non-site supporters most of the other feedback says it's the other way round Appreciate the feedback, we've had a few folks asking for more info about where their friends are in chat and this is something we'll look into. Admin x | |||
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"The facility to enter the chatroom in View Mode is totally crap - why would anyoen want to enter a chat room and not join in the chat ????? The facility has also reduced the number of people allowed to join the chatroom in chatroom mode to 175 ... I really don't think the site managers thought this one through !!! " hahhahahahah why would anyone want to enter chatrooms and not talk??...I see "people" do it all the time...sometimes even perv u and dont even respond lol, wonder why some people block some people lol | |||
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"thank you for clearing that part up. we thought they had full priority on gaining access into the rooms (ie next in line to enter the chatroom fully in turn over non site supporters). and yes we have been saying for a long time fab should introduce a upgrade to locate friends /hotlisted members in the chatroom they are in as its hard to keep changing rooms in order to locate them and while chnging rooms you could miss them also changing. its a really good idea." Nope just to confirm site supporters have no priority on entering the rooms. Everyone has same chance of entering. The site supporters who are in read only mode need to quit the room and try again to get in normally when people leave, they get in the same way as for all users Admin x | |||
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"just landed up in a view only mode...what a potch. I fail to see what the advantage is and we are unable to participate in the room." Just quit the room and move onto one that isn't full then, this feature is an optional extra we're taking nothing away Admin x | |||
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"We should have added.Can we disable view only mode to save annoyance to ourselves" If you look at the room list, a full room is one with over 175 users in so you can see at a glance if it's full but we will make this clearer. Admin x | |||
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"but why bring it up now .... new chat has been up 8 months ish and you can take a cam to different room. so its took peeps months to say anything when it was in the forums months ago and didnt get much feed back But the user was still fully aware who wad on their cam. i agree, even though folk in rooms can see u they have to have been in the same room to have clicked ur cam on, weather u move rooms or the viewer does... but it does give a an option to block if u want.. Start in room 1, switch cam on, 10 people view. You see who those peeps are. Move room and yes those 10 peeps can still your cam but at least you saw who was watching initially. With the change, someone who is on read only mode could watch a cam and you wouldn't see them at all. That's not right. Ok, blank profiles watch cams, we can if we like block them so we need a block lurkers option. Admin did say that they can add this option so am sure with constructive feedback they can. S. " | |||
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" i agree, even though folk in rooms can see u they have to have been in the same room to have clicked ur cam on, weather u move rooms or the viewer does... but it does give a an option to block if u want.. " You may have missed in the thread above but you can now block view-only users in full rooms from seeing your cam ever: http://www.fabswingers.com/my/privacy Last option on the screen Admin x | |||
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"sorry to say but this is one of the worst "improvements" made to this site. there should have been a setting available from point one to block "view only members" for the safty of everyone on this site.we will not be using cam untill this option is available. the chatrooms are limited to only 175 members, but site supporters can still get in (which increases the rooms limit), not a good idea as this stops other non site support members waiting in line to get in as we have to wait longer to see the volume drop to 174 members. this feels like a slipery way of trying to get us all to upgrade to site supporters and a slow way of making this a non free site." Agree with the above statement, as this is how the changes have made me confused. | |||
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"sorry to say but this is one of the worst "improvements" made to this site. there should have been a setting available from point one to block "view only members" for the safty of everyone on this site.we will not be using cam untill this option is available. the chatrooms are limited to only 175 members, but site supporters can still get in (which increases the rooms limit), not a good idea as this stops other non site support members waiting in line to get in as we have to wait longer to see the volume drop to 174 members. this feels like a slipery way of trying to get us all to upgrade to site supporters and a slow way of making this a non free site. Agree with the above statement, as this is how the changes have made me confused. " We explain in the thread above that what you quoted isn't correct and site supporters have no advantages in entering full rooms. If they want to enter the room in interactive (normal) mode they need to quit and try again. Admin x | |||
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"If people want to get naughty on Cam then they should take it to the Directing Rooms. " That's not part of the chat rules, people are welcome to get naked and play in non-directing rooms. The rules say "no directing" not "no playing". Admin x | |||
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"grrrrrrrrrrrrrr admin please this is not gonna work surly not, maybe a view only to check users in a room in case ur lookin for a certain profile but not so that anyone can perv ya cam,i dont want cam wankers viewing my cam(boring as it may be)wether its "my tits" or face." You can opt out on your privacy page http://www.fabswingers.com/my/privacy Admin x | |||
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"i agree with lil on this one... not sure i like the idea of people sneaking about.. i know if we puyt our cams on there there to be seen, but i know a few folk that will turn off their cams if certain folk come in.. ie work they work with etc.... or an ex etc " so true | |||
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"i agree with lil on this one... not sure i like the idea of people sneaking about.. i know if we puyt our cams on there there to be seen, but i know a few folk that will turn off their cams if certain folk come in.. ie work they work with etc.... or an ex etc so true" You can opt out on your privacy page http://www.fabswingers.com/my/privacy Admin x | |||
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"I have opted out however people who are hidden in the room can still see what im typing......dont think new chat is gonna be something ill be using anymore, 'invasion of privacy' comes to mind!" If that person was someone that you didn't want to see your chat , then I am guessing they would be blocked by you anyway? I am struggling to understand why you talking would be an invasion of privacy, most people will see it anyway in a chat room....unless of course you normally go down a room list as you enter a chat room blocking people before you start chatting. | |||
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